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MikeDeason 05-18-25 04:48 PM

Major (to me) negative of the Explore 2
 
I have suddenly started getting Pothole and Animal Hazard Alerts every 15-20 minutes on my rides. I have yet to see any of the forecast potholes or animals. What type of animal I should be concerned about in the city is also baffling. I'm in Toronto proper; raccoons, squirrels and occasionally a rare coyote are hardly something that requires a hazard warning.

On the Explore 2, you CANNOT turn off Hazard Alerts unless you change to Nav Prompts>Text Only. This means that you lose mini map pop-up at each turn and auto zoom into intersections which only work under Nav Prompts>Map option.

Sucks because all of a sudden the Hazard Alerts are getting ridiculous.

MikeDeason 05-18-25 06:36 PM

To be clear, I have all Alerts turned off but I still get them with Nav Prompts> Map.

the only way to eliminate them is Nav Prompts>Text, which has the limitations detailed above.

The constant Animal hazard is annoying and somewhat bizarre.

Koyote 05-18-25 08:43 PM

I'm sorry that your life is so challenging.

btw, I suspect that you are just wrong about this. On my Edge unit, I can turn off each particular type of alert that I wish, with no changes in other features. And even if I don't bother doing that, the alerts disappear in a moment or can be eliminated just by touching my fingertip to the X in the corner -- not really necessary since the alert is tiny and doesn't obscure much of the screen.

MikeDeason 05-19-25 03:41 AM

Yes I can X them when they pop up but they have become constant, frequently one appears after X’ing one out. And the constant Animal alerts make no sense.

Possible the update that screwed up my compass as this is a recent thing.

Koyote 05-19-25 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by MikeDeason (Post 23523384)
Yes I can X them when they pop up but they have become constant, frequently one appears after X’ing one out. And the constant Animal alerts make no sense.

Possible the update that screwed up my compass as this is a recent thing.

The update history for your device shows NO changes to the alerts, which reinforces my belief that you haven't read the manual, since it is very easy to turn off individual alerts (or all of them).

But again, even if you can't figure out how to turn off alerts, you'll never convince me that a tiny little popup at the bottom of your screen is a big deal.

MikeDeason 05-19-25 07:49 AM

I have turned off all the alerts manually. Each one is slid to off. The only ones I still get constantly are Animal and Pothole. There is no option for Animal. And yes “Road” is off.

I don’t get them when Nav Prompts>Text is selected but then no mini maps etc.

I had to wipe and reinstall the maps and that fixed compass. Will try firmware manually later.





unterhausen 05-19-25 09:30 AM

Are animal and pothole alerts triggered because someone else marked them? I don't know how else they could be triggered. So this may be a side effect of being connected to your phone.

I had to turn off some of the communications on my 830. Imagine getting alerts of nearby garmin users when you are on a ride with 6000 other people. I got multi-page alerts of people's names. There have been rare occasions when I passed by someone who knew my name and I didn't recognize, but I'll live with the embarrassment of not knowing who they were.

MikeDeason 05-19-25 01:48 PM

I was wondering the same; from Garmin's database of crowdsourced data. Apparently, they rarely delete hazards, so if someone reported a coyote or pothole a year ago in a certain location, its still a hazard.

Good point about the phone. I think it works through Garmin Connect


Shadco 05-21-25 09:44 AM

Probably shouldn’t have added the Waze applet.

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Iride01 05-21-25 10:27 AM

It this is through a waze app, then those are developed independent of Garmin. So it's probably the entity that made the waze app that the wagging finger should be pointed at.

MikeDeason 05-22-25 11:01 AM

I don't think it has anything to do with the Waze app. I believe the hazards are crowdsourced from Garmin. The Alerts were useful before the update on Garmin Express. Now, they're just ridiculous Animal alerts that make no sense and potholes that don't exist.

Iride01 05-22-25 11:04 AM

Perhaps a call to Garmin Support might get you some answers about it. Or we can just keep supposing.

unterhausen 05-22-25 12:10 PM

The theory is that waze is making a notification on his phone and that gets sent to the garmin? I turned off phone notifications on my garmin pretty early on because CVS likes to send random notifications early Sunday morning.

Iride01 05-22-25 12:28 PM

CVS.... That's another monster that doesn't understand why we make fun of the 5 foot long resister receipts for 1 item purchased. Or why asking for a text message when my prescription is ready doesn't mean I want texts from them about everything else.

Reply back to them with STOP. And they'll all go away. At least for a while.

prj71 05-22-25 12:37 PM

To disable road hazard alerts on a Garmin Edge Explore 2, navigate to Settings > Activity Profiles > select a profile > Alerts and Prompts > Road Hazard Alerts and turn it off.

https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webh...2DAFB50A2.html


Shadco 05-23-25 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by unterhausen (Post 23526063)
The theory is that waze is making a notification on his phone and that gets sent to the garmin? I turned off phone notifications on my garmin pretty early on because CVS likes to send random notifications early Sunday morning.

I should have added the tongue in cheek emoji to my post about Waze.

Interesting that folks come to a forum to complain about a feature that they could have easily disabled simply by reading the manual.


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Steve B. 05-23-25 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Shadco (Post 23526618)
I should have added the tongue in cheek emoji to my post about Waze.

Interesting that folks come to a forum to complain about a feature that they could have easily disabled simply by reading the manual.

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He was pretty specific that "To be clear, I have all Alerts turned off but I still get them with Nav Prompts> Map.

the only way to eliminate them is Nav Prompts>Text, which has the limitations detailed above."

Sounds like he's following the manual.

Iride01 05-23-25 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Steve B. (Post 23526715)
He was pretty specific that "To be clear, I have all Alerts turned off but I still get them with Nav Prompts> Map.

the only way to eliminate them is Nav Prompts>Text, which has the limitations detailed above."

Sounds like he's following the manual.

Perhaps his children could have created him a route and just put all those annoyances in it's cue sheet! <grin>

So that would be a different setting to turn off.

Steve B. 05-23-25 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Iride01 (Post 23526794)
Perhaps his children could have created him a route and just put all those annoyances in it's cue sheet! <grin>

So that would be a different setting to turn off.

I think this is yet another case of a dead short between the keyboard and the chair. Perhaps there will be a follow up if it gets solved, but that rarely happens.

Koyote 05-23-25 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Steve B. (Post 23527031)
I think this is yet another case of a dead short between the keyboard and the chair. Perhaps there will be a follow up if it gets solved, but that rarely happens.

On my Garmin Edge unit, the alerts are easily disabled as per the instructions, with no other impacts on navigation.

Steve B. 05-23-25 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Koyote (Post 23527048)
On my Garmin Edge unit, the alerts are easily disabled as per the instructions, with no other impacts on navigation.

Yeah, mine too, I have a 1040 and 1050 and on both I don’t get any hazard or warnings of any type as I shut all that off. Thing is, the Explore and Explore 2 are oddball Garmin units with many differences in the OS, so what we assume works might not on that unit.

unterhausen 05-24-25 02:39 PM

I know a randonneur that had the original explore and it had enough shortcomings that I would never consider one. Didn't know I had so much in common with stravaholes.


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