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noglider 10-25-25 03:40 PM

A person asks for help, and some of us ridicule him instead of helping him. Good going, guys. Your mother would be proud.

Trakhak 10-25-25 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 23632759)
A person asks for help, and some of us ridicule him instead of helping him. Good going, guys. Your mother would be proud.

It's a real-life reenactment of the story of the boy who cried wolf.

MikeDeason 10-25-25 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by dedhed (Post 23632658)
How are you going to aim a light on that?

I want to aim it forward. Looking at the Ravemen FR500 light, it appears this won't be a problem

noglider 10-25-25 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Trakhak (Post 23632779)
It's a real-life reenactment of the story of the boy who cried wolf.

He's not warning about a danger to many of us, so the analogy doesn't seem apt. He's not warning about a loss that several of us will have if we don't come to help. But do what you want; if you want to continue, I can't stop you.

Another alternative to responding to questions that annoy you is to scroll on by.

Shadco 10-25-25 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by MikeDeason (Post 23632587)
As was pointed out, the bag integrates a Garmin mount which is compatible with lights that allow for stacking of the computer. I ordered the Ravemen FR500 which should be a suitable solution.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5fa26daa7.jpeg


Good luck controlling the aim with a 500 lumen light mounted that way. Do t be surprised when lance pops you in the nose for blinding him.

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tomato coupe 10-25-25 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 23632830)
He's not warning about a danger to many of us, so the analogy doesn't seem apt. He's not warning about a loss that several of us will have if we don't come to help. But do what you want; if you want to continue, I can't stop you.

Another alternative to responding to questions that annoy you is to scroll on by.

You seem to be unaware that the OP is, as usual, just trolling.

njkayaker 10-25-25 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 23632759)
A person asks for help, and some of us ridicule him instead of helping him. Good going, guys. Your mother would be proud.

You must be new here.

He says he doesn’t need the light to see in front of him.

Seems obvious the way the light is situated that it would be partially blocked.

It doesn’t seem like he needs to be told to consider not using the handlebar bag (an obvious solution).

What problem is he asking help with?

He didn’t really say.

He said, well into the thread, he’s is using the light to be seen. The blocking might not matter too much for that.

Whatever problem he might be having seems like something he should be able to address himself.

It seems like yet another thing people figure out by themselves. And he will find issues with anything people might suggest. Making the effort of providing help a waste of time.

Just like what happens with his other posts.

MikeDeason 10-26-25 04:26 AM

I need the handlebar bag. Not ditching it.

As posted above, there is a light that fits the Garmin mount that the computer can then be stacked on. This completely solves the problem of blockage.

Tourist in MSN 10-26-25 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 23632756)
I make fork mounts for my headlights. This allows me to have bags and such on the handlebar.

See my album which shows how I did it. I've made others not with copper pipe but with PVC pipe.
...

We both tried to offer assistance. He chose to ignore our efforts. No appreciation for us taking the time to make suggestions.

Others choose to make fun of us.

Time to move on. No need to waste any more time here.

MikeDeason 10-26-25 07:19 AM

Sure. Your ideas are great but I have the Garmin mount on top of the bag. I took the post that had the cleanest solution and posted right after it that was the solution I wanted.


phughes 10-26-25 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Tourist in MSN (Post 23633005)
We both tried to offer assistance. He chose to ignore our efforts. No appreciation for us taking the time to make suggestions.

Others choose to make fun of us.

Time to move on. No need to waste any more time here.

Yes, I also offered help in response to your post. I did so in case someone in the future i searching and comes across the thread. Mike though doesn't really want help, he is an incessant troll, and won't accept any offered advice despite the merit. Early on many actually tried helping Mike with things, but it became very clear that he is simply trolling, and people treat his posts as such. As long as his posts are allowed on the forum, people will disregard their validity and reply with made up "solutions" since the OP floods the forum with made up issues, and issues the average third grader would solve before breakfast.

MikeDeason 10-26-25 08:57 AM

I guess you missed the post in this thread where I took the advice of the poster and purchased the product he recommended.

lol

BF is hilarious.


njkayaker 10-26-25 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by MikeDeason (Post 23633064)
I guess you missed the post in this thread where I took the advice of the poster and purchased the product he recommended.

lol

BF is hilarious.

You certainly didn’t get your first post didn’t describe your issue very well.

MikeDeason 10-26-25 11:39 AM

Was concerned about the bag reducing the effectiveness of the light and looking for alternatives.

Confusing, I know. But there was a pic.

lol.

njkayaker 10-26-25 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by MikeDeason (Post 23633151)
Was concerned about the bag reducing the effectiveness of the light and looking for alternatives.

Confusing, I know. But there was a pic.

lol.

You pointed out that you didn’t care about seeing things later in the thread. If you had a clue, you would have mentioned it at the beginning. LOL.

phughes 10-26-25 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by MikeDeason (Post 23633064)
I guess you missed the post in this thread where I took the advice of the poster and purchased the product he recommended.

lol

BF is hilarious.

Yep, because I have you on ignore. I was speaking to your general behavior. You also still have not figured out how to quote someone, so your replies are missed as well. You spend an awful lot of time criticizing BF, but it is your behavior that makes it difficult for you. If you would have actually took the time to learn forum etiquette, like using the quote function, not posting multitudes of trolling posts, and not criticizing those who actually tried to help you when you first started using the forum.

People stopped taking you seriously because you showed yourself to be either not serious, or simply had some predetermined outcome to your questions and would disregard any real advice you received. As a result, people stopped trying to help you, and to be honest, the vast majority of your posts are simply troll posts, like how to carry a bike upstairs, I may need a Walnut strategy, Please stop doing the handlebar wave, Why Blue, Are You the Bike Police, Is hot sauce and bikes a thing, Am I just an angry loner, etc. Oh, and let's not forget Drippy Nose, and Drippy Nose 2.0. One thread, How is this fun, was a thread about bike touring, in which you basically belittled bicycle touring as much as you possibly could, on a forum about bikes. You go out of your way to belittle people you talk about in your posts, "Lances" as one example, gravel bikers, people who play sports you think are beneath you or too dangerous, and basically anyone who does anything you don't agree with, etc.

That is what you seem to do though, make fun of bicyclists, that is, those bicyclists who enjoy bikes in a way you do not agree with, and you know best, after all, since joining in March of 2024, just about a year an a half ago, you have created 152 new threads, and posted 1,805 times. You must know something, either that or you need help with bicycling, or, you're trolling.

So Mike, though many have helped you in the past, and you seem to have new people who haven't encountered your abhorrent behavior who now are trying to champion your cause, perhaps it is time to actually start being a positive part of this forum instead of being a jerk.

Have a good day Mike, and try using the phrase Canadians are known for, "I'm sorry."

tomato coupe 10-26-25 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by phughes (Post 23633334)
Yep, because I have you on ignore. I was speaking to your general behavior. You also still have not figured out how to quote someone, so your replies are missed as well. You spend an awful lot of time criticizing BF, but it is your behavior that makes it difficult for you. If you would have actually took the time to learn forum etiquette, like using the quote function, not posting multitudes of trolling posts, and not criticizing those who actually tried to help you when you first started using the forum.

People stopped taking you seriously because you showed yourself to be either not serious, or simply had some predetermined outcome to your questions and would disregard any real advice you received. As a result, people stopped trying to help you, and to be honest, the vast majority of your posts are simply troll posts, like how to carry a bike upstairs, I may need a Walnut strategy, Please stop doing the handlebar wave, Why Blue, Are You the Bike Police, Is hot sauce and bikes a thing, Am I just an angry loner, etc. Oh, and let's not forget Drippy Nose, and Drippy Nose 2.0. One thread, How is this fun, was a thread about bike touring, in which you basically belittled bicycle touring as much as you possibly could, on a forum about bikes. You go out of your way to belittle people you talk about in your posts, "Lances" as one example, gravel bikers, people who play sports you think are beneath you or too dangerous, and basically anyone who does anything you don't agree with, etc.

That is what you seem to do though, make fun of bicyclists, that is, those bicyclists who enjoy bikes in a way you do not agree with, and you know best, after all, since joining in March of 2024, just about a year an a half ago, you have created 152 new threads, and posted 1,805 times. You must know something, either that or you need help with bicycling, or, you're trolling.

So Mike, though many have helped you in the past, and you seem to have new people who haven't encountered your abhorrent behavior who now are trying to champion your cause, perhaps it is time to actually start being a positive part of this forum instead of being a jerk.

Have a good day Mike, and try using the phrase Canadians are known for, "I'm sorry."

This should be posted in every thread the OP starts.

MikeDeason 10-26-25 05:59 PM

Yawn

just answer the post with relevant information or move on. No one wants to read essays.



veganbikes 10-26-25 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by MikeDeason (Post 23633362)
Yawn

just answer the post with relevant information or move on. No one wants to read essays.

Ah, how delightfully modern your entreaty for concision sounds — the battle cry of the chronically attention-deprived, echoing across the digital agora! Yet, while I acknowledge your impatience with anything exceeding the length of a tweet, I must, in good conscience and with due reverence to the grand tradition of discourse, defend the noble art of elaboration.

For to answer a post with “just the relevant information” is, of course, efficient — but efficiency, I fear, is the death of subtlety. The world, dear interlocutor, is not a binary code of “relevant” and “irrelevant.” It is a tapestry of context, implication, and nuance — and to excise these elements in the pursuit of brevity is to strip thought itself of its dignity.

If my words unfurl like ivy upon the trellis of your patience, consider it not verbosity, but a testament to intellectual courtesy: a willingness to explore, explain, and expand rather than to lob curt statements into the void. After all, one might as well demand that symphonies be reduced to jingles or novels to slogans.

Nevertheless, your plea has been received with all the gravity it deserves, and I shall henceforth attempt to balance my natural proclivity for eloquence with your evident predilection for expediency — though I confess, doing so will pain me almost as much as it will relieve you.

MikeDeason 10-26-25 06:18 PM

Just go to page 1 where the poster replied with a suggestion of using the garmin mount and a stackable light. I went with that. The rest is the usual BF fluff with a few other useful suggestions.

Double yawn


phughes 10-26-25 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by MikeDeason (Post 23633362)
Yawn

just answer the post with relevant information or move on. No one wants to read essays.

That reply simply shows who you are, and it perfectly aligns with what I wrote.

R. D. 10-27-25 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by Shadco (Post 23632848)
Good luck controlling the aim with a 500 lumen light mounted that way. Do t be surprised when lance pops you in the nose for blinding him.
.

My thought, too.

But maybe the OP doesn't mind too much, about the light shaking up and down.

MikeDeason 10-27-25 05:56 AM

The bag is very secure as it mounts to both the top and bottom of the loop on an RS Top Shelf bar. I need the light only for the flashing mode, as the city provides ample ambient light. The side mount light worked, but based on my testing in a darkened room, it did somewhat reduce its efficiency, especially with a jacket stuffed in the bag.

The light I ordered is from Amazon so easy to return if it does not provide an acceptable solution.

veganbikes 10-27-25 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by MikeDeason (Post 23633500)
The bag is very secure as it mounts to both the top and bottom of the loop on an RS Top Shelf bar. I need the light only for the flashing mode, as the city provides ample ambient light. The side mount light worked, but based on my testing in a darkened room, it did somewhat reduce its efficiency, especially with a jacket stuffed in the bag.

The light I ordered is from Amazon so easy to return if it does not provide an acceptable solution.

Not that you follow good advice but front white lights should NEVER EVER FLASH. The only reason to flash a light is in an absolute emergency situation which you will rarely if ever be in. If you want to ride a full suspension bike on the road or leaf blow for bike lane debris fine whatever do that but please do not flash lights. A flashing white light is quite dangerous to the eyes. I literally have to close an eye and look away when one of these self-entitled arses decides to flash a light. I also know there are folks who could have seizures or the are drawn to the light and end up making things worse. If you cannot be safe with a good quality light with a good beam pattern on solid than you shouldn't be anywhere with humans. All other road users except emergency vehicles use solid front lights for a reason.

MikeDeason 10-27-25 08:40 AM

Front flash is the standard setting for most cyclists in the city core, day and night. This is a dense, busy and lit up city, you need to stand out

Not many day but when they do, it’s flash

Rear primarily flash as well, day or night.


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