I might never have figured out how to get out of the car, might have died there.

My 1965 Ford F-250 was the best vehicle I ever owned for maintenance. It had three options from the factory, limited slip rear axle, auxiliary springs in back, and an AM radio. Back then even the backup lights, windshield washer and passenger side windshield visor were options, were never installed on it. But I added some backup lights so I could see. It did not take long to figure out where all the controls were when there was almost nothing to control.

Sorry for getting far off topic here.

My Garmin Edge and Forerunner will pair with my Bontrager lights. I thought it would be a neat, if not handy, feature for the lights to turn on when I started a ride and turn off when I finished, so when I bought the lights I paired them to both devices. Turns out it was neither neat nor handy.

I never figured out what was causing it, but sometimes when I opened my garage door with the remote, the lights would come on. Unpairing the light from the Edge and the Forerunner didn’t help, because for some reason the Forerunner was hell-bent on repairing with the lights. I tried unpairing and restarting the watch, resetting the watch to factory defaults, removing the watch from Garmin Connect, unpairing and then resetting to factory defaults, and every combination in between. I tried Ant and Bluetooth with no difference. It seemed that every time Garmin updated the watch software, the watch would pair itself back to the lights. Fortunately this has stopped occurring because I assume Garmin eventually changed how the update process works or I'm just living right these days and the bike gods think I deserve mercy.

What I eventually found worked best, is taking the bike off the wall, using the buttons to turn on the lights, select the mode and riding the bike. Having the lights come on automagically when I started a ride was a solution to a problem that didn't exist.

Again, you are being pedantic.

I still like what I wrote for the reasons I wrote it. I'm okay with the idea that you have no clue about the context and ideas that it was about.

10 hours of programming still seems like a little to much. But depends on what you think the finished product will need to be. Again, for the use of its creator, it doesn't have to be pretty or fool proof. However for someone that just wants to challenge themselves with a little coding project in their spare time, it wouldn't be unreasonable even if it was 100 hours of time. Similar to how some people prefer to fiddle with adjusting stuff on their bikes instead of riding them.

The laughable thing is that you want to argue over nothing. I said nothing wrong or so egregious that it needed any comment from another member. You were the one that didn't write clearly what you meant.

Again, this is an ad hominem and against the rules.

Like it or not, it’s still bad. (What you first wrote was kind of OK but you are
now wandering in the weeds.)

You agreed it was a waste of time. Now, you are arguing it isn’t. Make up your mind.

There are other “challenges” that are more worth the effort.

You are the one still arguing. What you continue going on about is a confusing mess.

Oh I didn't mean doorknob like the entry door, I meant "doorknob" as big combination 4-way rocker switch and turning knob for using the entertainment system.

I think the virtual gauges are fine, or at least, they CAN be.

The Land Rover is not the only one who collapses all of the possible values into three. I can't figure out why they would do that.

I'm glad car makers are rethinking the controls. I think it's a serious matter that should be regulated if the industry doesn't give back a few controls. Imagine operating the windshield wipers with a touch screen. That's how the Tesla was until recently. Tesla sends frequent software updates, and a recent one gave windshield wiper control to a steering wheel scroll wheel. OK now I don't have to take my hands off the wheel, but I still have to read a menu to operate it. Still not good enough.

Ok.

I bought a used 2005 Volvo XC-90 a couple years ago. The version I have was complete with many options like heated seats for cold weather, fog lights, etc. I think I sat in the drivers seat for an hour with the manual trying to figure out all the buttons, most of which only had little icons with no text. A year later, I was still getting some of the buttons confused.

That said, I prefer physical buttons over touch screens. And this vehicle is 20 years old, so it is exclusively buttons or knobs or rocker switches.