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duke_of_hazard 12-19-07 11:11 AM

Yellow amber read blinky recommendation?
 
I notice many emergency vehicles and even city buses have always-on yellow rear lights . Any suggestion for a good one as a rear-blinky to complement my red-blinky?

flipped4bikes 12-19-07 01:16 PM

What's a read-blinky?

BarracksSi 12-19-07 01:59 PM

"read blinky" = "rear blinky" with a typo (the "r" and "d" are next to each other, remember -- at least on a QWERTY keyboard).

Dinotte's amber light is good, and it has the same choices of flash patterns as their other lights. I've seen a few others, too, but had to go to amazon.com to find them (I remember when they just sold books...).

I've also heard that some bike-related laws specify that steady, rear-facing lights are only supposed to be red, and other colors aren't allowed. It makes sense, since other colors usually signify that a vehicle is turning or is coming towards the viewer.

I'd stick with bright red lights to the rear and use amber to the sides and/or front.

Emergency vehicles can be lit up all they want, for all I care. ;) Your buses, I'll bet, are using those lights now because some ambulance-chasing lawyer sued them to make themselves more visible; that's happened here in DC, and now the buses have chasing-pattern amber light bars above their windshields.

flipped4bikes 12-19-07 02:17 PM

Alrighty then! I would recommend the Dinotte amber only for use in the front. As said above, there's laws on this, so check them out. Besides, I highly doubt you would need anything else than a Dinotte read (sorry, couldn't resist) 200L light to get attention.

duke_of_hazard 12-19-07 02:24 PM

I would like to keep it under $20 . In my city I have seen many large vehicles with rear facing yellow lights, so I dont see why I would be breaking any law? The problem I have with red only is that since it is so common, people will ignore it.

dmac49 12-19-07 04:20 PM

Technically speaking in New York state NO flashing lights are permitted on any vehicle EXCEPT an "Emergency Vehicle" as defined within the NYS VTL. As bicycles are considered vehicles and must abide by the same governing laws that includes blinking lights or "blinkies".. Now before everyone goes off on a tirade that is what the VTL says. It is common practice to use the flash mode however with some of these new high power rear lights coming on the market I would not be surprised to hear of someone getting stopped concerning these such as but not limited to the Dinotte etc. The only flashing lights permitted on non emergency vehicle are turn signals and they can be red or amber to the rear or white or amber to the front. For the most part police officers do not pay attention to bicycles exhibiting flashing red to the rear HOWEVER I would question getting up in too high a range as to be confused by a legitimate emergency vehicle. There is a point or line one can reach that is overboard so to speak. That is coming from the law enforcement side as well as the bike side. I personally think the Dinotte is overboard. Catseye 1100, Mars 3.0, and Planets are very effective. Police agencies are finding that too many or too bright lights can have an adverse effect on other drivers. That is in ref. to police operations. All this is dependant on the conditions. The object is to be seen and not hit. Remember that the light does not put up some magical shield. So speaking on NYS , yes you can be told turn the light on steady to the rear, and flashing white to the front is a no no. The only pulse type light that is allowed to the front are modulators on motorcycles as per NYS VTL. Like it or not that is the way it is. Follow it or not ....I would say use your common sense and you most likely won't have a problem. I would like to see a split lens yellow and red such as a Catseye for example with red row on the top and yellow on the bottom each separately controlled.

duke_of_hazard 12-19-07 04:29 PM

How is this combo:

http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-3-...8103342&sr=8-2
http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Bl...102445&sr=1-26

HiYoSilver 12-19-07 10:00 PM

Safest bet is to have both steady red and flashing/blinking red on the back.
The yellow blinkie should go on both front forks and be aimed 1/2 way between front and right/left side. Why, to help on the right/left cross accidents where driver pulls into you.

Giro 12-19-07 10:56 PM

I have both the Planet Bike amber blinky mentioned above and the "Pyramid, Pro, Front, Clear with Yellow LED's" LINK. The Pyramid Pro is a bit brighter, not surprising since it has 4 LED's vs 3 LED's in the Planet Bike BRT-3F.

Zero_Enigma 12-20-07 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by HiYoSilver (Post 5840817)
Safest bet is to have both steady red and flashing/blinking red on the back.
The yellow blinkie should go on both front forks and be aimed 1/2 way between front and right/left side. Why, to help on the right/left cross accidents where driver pulls into you.

Can you provide a photo of this for better visualization? Thanks.

freako 12-22-07 11:23 PM

I don't know of any policy agency in the US that would write you a ticket for using blinking red lights on your bicycle, their just happy you have a light!!! Having said that, there have been safety studies done that showed that drunk drivers are more likely to hit a flashing light then a steady light and thats why some states require a steady light as well as most European countries and I believe Canada.

Pepper Grinder 12-23-07 09:04 PM

http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bi..._FLASHER_.html

backorder till nearly march :(

smacmillin 12-23-07 10:22 PM

I have a Planetbike TL-LD1000, and although it is quite bright, I still wanted more light. I liked the idea of a Xenon strobe and I purchased the Lightman strobe [http://www.lightmanstrobes.com/bike.htm] as it is a little more bike-friendly than the All Electronics strobe. The Lightman is nicely constructed and mounts easily to the bike. However, I was disappointed with the brightness as it is not as bright as the TL-LD1000 although the field of view is much wider.

I'm going to build my own tail light using a Luxeon III red-orange LED driven at 1,200 mA with a 6 x 24 degree optic. I believe that this will be far brighter and with a wider field of view than most commercially available tail light, and certainly brighter than a inexpensive Xenon strobe.

flipped4bikes 12-27-07 10:04 AM

I've seen PB SuperFlashes under $25. Not amber, but it'll do!

JeffRoss 01-29-08 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by HiYoSilver (Post 5840817)
Safest bet is to have both steady red and flashing/blinking red on the back.
The yellow blinkie should go on both front forks and be aimed 1/2 way between front and right/left side. Why, to help on the right/left cross accidents where driver pulls into you.

This is what I want, but I can't tell from the photos on amazon.com or anywhere else if the mount for the BRT-3F is suitable for mounting on a fork blade. Anyone tried that?

Also, has anyone tried running these on NiMH? I don't care if the run time isn't as long as alkaline, but my Primus helmet light, with its 3 AA battery pack, won't even turn on with fully charged NiMH batteries. I don't want that!

Jeff Ross

sping 01-30-08 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by smacmillin (Post 5861508)
I'm going to build my own tail light using a Luxeon III red-orange LED driven at 1,200 mA with a 6 x 24 degree optic. I believe that this will be far brighter and with a wider field of view than most commercially available tail light

Sounds like a good plan. Seems to me that oval optics are the way to go to be seen on the road.

Fill us in on all the details when you do it. This DIY Dinotte style looks like one of the easier DIY options. I may try that for next winter, with whatever improved emitters are available then.

nogasbiker 01-30-08 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by sping (Post 6078151)
Sounds like a good plan. Seems to me that oval optics are the way to go to be seen on the road.

I recall a super wide and flat optic lens that is available. That would work well for the rear. It was like 120 degrees horizontally, but only 10 degrees vertically.

I've also thought of a luxeon or cree rear light. If I do it, I would want to spread the light more. Fine lines between visibility, annoyance, and blinding the driver ;)

bfromcolo 01-30-08 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by smacmillin (Post 5861508)
I'm going to build my own tail light using a Luxeon III red-orange LED driven at 1,200 mA with a 6 x 24 degree optic. I believe that this will be far brighter and with a wider field of view than most commercially available tail light, and certainly brighter than a inexpensive Xenon strobe.

I just built one using a CREE XR red LED driven at 350ma. According to the spec sheet thats 40 lumen of red light. It is way brighter than my Mars 3.0. I run my home made solid and the Mars blinking.

HiYoSilver 01-31-08 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma (Post 5846669)
Can you provide a photo of this for better visualization? Thanks.

Yes, but it will not be before next week. Computer is down with bad graphic card and we have snow and ice on the roads now. I hope to get some images this weekend and if can will post for you.


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