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Originally Posted by balto charlie
(Post 6233272)
Hey J: I posted earlier that I had no problems w/ my Fenix, the cold and NiMH batteries. Well all of that has changed recently. A few weeks back I rode for a few hours in cool temps(40F, 5C) with the light on flash mode. When it came time to switch to high it died. I figured batteries. I returned home charged all of my batteries for the AM commute. Temps dropped to 13F/-10C. That morning the light worked for less than an hour. I recharged them again then I realized that the overall brightness was no longer there, lost all modes other than high(but not as high as before) and flash. All lower levels gone!!! I know my batteries are good as they light other lights well. Run time is much shorter and brightness reduced. I never bang my light around. I am contacting Fenix to tell them the problem. Perhaps these light are a "1 year only light". FWIW: I ride almost everyday, run the light 1-2 hours per day; so this might just be it life expectancy. Charlie
You could try posting a CPF too; those folks are both very knowledgeable and helpful. http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...isplay.php?f=9 |
Originally Posted by Ziemas
(Post 6233887)
IIRC lower levels gone on a Fenix light indicate a problem with the batteries being too weak. Exactly what batteries are you using and do you have a way to test to voltage in them?
You could try posting a CPF too; those folks are both very knowledgeable and helpful. http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...isplay.php?f=9 |
Originally Posted by balto charlie
(Post 6235525)
Really. The batteries work in another light pretty well. The batteries PowerX 2700 ,AA, NiMH rechargeable, purchased Nov07. I do ride almost everyday but alternate between 2 sets of batteries. I contacted Fenix and they said sounds like something is wrong and to return them. They really answered my email immediately. I'm impressed. But if you say batteries I will buy a set of disposable AA, brand spanking new to test out. I can't see how both sets of my batteries showed the same problems at the same time. Thanks charlie
Are you using freshly charged batteries when you are having the problem? |
Originally Posted by Ziemas
(Post 6235665)
I'd trust Fenix over myself any day!
Are you using freshly charged batteries when you are having the problem? |
As they say in the instructions, you need to keep the contact surfaces clean. This includes the threads, they use them to pass current for the light to work. Also the ends of the barrel where it touchs the head and the end cap. Dirt or grease on the threads or flats can cause a problem. Even invisible corrosion from being outside can do this. Just a couple of ohms can be a problem with low voltage stuff like this.
You also need to carefull clean the contacts with a Q-tip and a little alcohol. (All this is in the instructions). I have saved watches, calculators and other small things just by wiping the contacts with a flannel shirt and they kept going for a long time. It also works great on small bike lights, like blinkies. The corrosion can be almost invisible, or if you look close you can see it, just a little discoloration. Even thought the lights are water tight they can get condensation inside them in the winter from going inside and out. This can corrode the contacts. The symptoms you describe fit this perfectly, it happens with all kinds of things, it's very common. If you use it in the cold (as you do) you need to stay on top of this. This is an on going thing, not a one time problem, you need to clean the contacts, threads and lands periodically, especially in the winter. Your symptoms sound perfectly normal and typical to me. Nothing unusual. I can't believe this has not already come up, did I miss it? |
Originally Posted by 2manybikes
(Post 6246889)
As they say in the instructions, you need to keep the contact surfaces clean. This includes the threads, they use them to pass current for the light to work. Also the ends of the barrel where it touchs the head and the end cap. Dirt or grease on the threads or flats can cause a problem. Even invisible corrosion from being outside can do this. Just a couple of ohms can be a problem with low voltage stuff like this.
You also need to carefull clean the contacts with a Q-tip and a little alcohol. (All this is in the instructions). I have saved watches, calculators and other small things just by wiping the contacts with a flannel shirt and they kept going for a long time. It also works great on small bike lights, like blinkies. The corrosion can be almost invisible, or if you look close you can see it, just a little discoloration. Even thought the lights are water tight they can get condensation inside them in the winter from going inside and out. This can corrode the contacts. The symptoms you describe fit this perfectly, it happens with all kinds of things, it's very common. If you use it in the cold (as you do) you need to stay on top of this. This is an on going thing, not a one time problem, you need to clean the contacts, threads and lands periodically, especially in the winter. Your symptoms sound perfectly normal and typical to me. Nothing unusual. I can't believe this has not already come up, did I miss it? When I removed the lens end to clean I looked at the contact at the base of the lens. It looked OK but around it was a green background with 4 or 5 solder looking areas. 2 or3 had what looked to be solder(silver) in them and 2 areas (brass) were not filled in with this silver stuff. This may mean nothing, just an observation. Thanks for the advice. I really was hoping it would solve the problem. I was hoping to make it to the end of winter w/out sending it back. I could ride 'as is' with less power but will opt to return. I really like the strobe at twilight. The way it lights up the signs is so cool. It still lights 'em up but not as brilliantly as before. Charlie |
If you were riding with NimH batteries at 13 degrees F and you got short run time, then everything is normal, that's what you should expect. When they get warm they will be back. Don't try and charge them if they are cold.
Did you check the batteries with a volt meter at room temperature? What kind of voltage are you getting? If You can get a meter easily you might as well check them before shipping it back. Nimh have a fast self discharge rate. If you waited a day from when they were in the other light that might be the difference. Especially if they are on the way out. If the other lights don't use as much current as the Fenix it is possible that the other lights will work, but the extra draw from the Fenix could be too much for a weak battery. Rechargeable batteries do wear out. Did you ever try to calculate the number of use cycles on them? |
Send it back, plain and simple, and get them to send you a new one. I can't believe how painful your posts make the FENIX sound.
It's one of the simplest pieces of tech equipment I have. I dump in NiMh batts, bring a spare set if I'm out for 2+ hours, and I'm good to go. Fabulous lighting all the way. Get a new one, and try out your various batteries. ALL of my batts work, from the 1800mA thru the 2400mA, and the runtime does seem to correlated extremely well with the extra mAs on the higher capacity batts. I'll bet the customer service will be pretty good at Fenix as well, from what I've seen from other posts. |
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