vinhuard

every GPS got a delay...it can't be instant, except maybe if you turn it off and on again, it will be a lot faster because you haven't moved it!

LSHD

I believe all you need to do, with every second monitoring, is to reset your timer every 4 hours. This will save the previous 4 hours to the internal memory.

hotbiker

Thanks for the answer, but do you know that it works because you are a owner of an edge 705 and you did that or do you think that it should work fine ?

If you are an owner, do you know if on reset/stop all trackpoints (up to 13000) will be stored to a single very large history file with all the recorded extra values (heartrate, cadence, ...) included - means true lossless storing and lossless loading all history files to PC (i.e. training center software) ?

I like to buy an edge 705 only if it works like this with lossless history file storing.

Thanks for any answer ...

luv2climb

First of all, I do have a 705. When you reset it saves the data (all of it including HR, trackpoints, cadence, elevation, etc.) to a file on the internal drive. When you plug in and download do Training Center it will download. I routinely ride for a week everday, reset after the ride and then download multiple days at one time. I never have any issues.

Hope that helps.

hotbiker

This was the info I like to hear.

You are better than official Garmin Hotline support in germany. They understood the problem with the edge 305 but were not able to tell me if I can work around the 9 hour (13000 trackpoints) limit with the edge 705 internal history storage. OK, I know edge 705 german offical delivery begin is mid of april - I hope april 2008 ...

Thanks a lot luv2climb !

LSHD

luv2climb beat me too it... Yes, I own a 750, and it does indeed work. The manual actually states it will record up to 4.5 hours at a time, but reseting at the 4hr mark is probably a safer bet. I've only recorded up to 3hrs at a time so far. So I was only stating what the manual stated for the 4 hr reset suggestion.

junfan

For those who have the 705 bundle w/maps on the sd card - are there files to load the city navigator software and maps onto a PC and create routes and tracks on the PC to upload to the garmin?

I know that if one has the city navigator cd you can load it onto a PC and load the maps to the sd card.

luv2climb

If I recall right the 4.5 hour time is if you use every secound recording. If you use smart recording you can get more time in one file. Someone will correct me if I am off base. I use the smart recording and my files always contain plenty of data for me.

luv2climb

Nope! This is the drawback of buyng it on the SD card, it will only work on the 705. If you don't own City Nav seperatly you will either have to buy it or use one of the websites to create a course and download it.

LSHD

luv2climb your correct... w/ smart recording it is recommended to reset every 12 hours.

paulrad9

That makes planning routes on the PC pretty challenging. I guess buying a 705 sans maps, then buying City Nav would be the best option.

kb5ql

That's annoying. It would be nice if they would give us 1 unlock code (instead of the normal 2) and use it for this device. Oh well.

terrain

I have been buying/using GPS for years and I can tell you that the chpset's make a big difference in sat acquisition. I was trying to determine if the 705 has the SIRFIII ... but ended up ordering one and I'll test it out against the handfull of gps units that I have.

I ordered the 705 w/cadence and plan to use my own City 2008 along with a 1GB card.

Has anyone tried 2 or 4GB cards - or even better SDHC cards? I'm guessing the later will not work...

Twebs46

I'm using a 2 gb micro sd card with my 605, no problems.

Tom

luv2climb

2 gb San Disk on my 705 here. No issues.

josephjhaney

How much map data can you get on the 2gig cards? I'm guessing I should be able to put just about the entire us in if I choose to, would that be correct?

luv2climb

I loaded up a 2 GB card with 49 of the 50 states last year. That was using City Nav 8. Alaska would have put it over the limit.

The card that was shipping with the units was a 2 GB card with all 50 states. It fits it all in about 1.1 GB because the maps are tailored to portable units.

donrhummy

What is the warning like? Is it just beeps or does it talk? And how loud is it?

kring

What warning are you refering to? if it's the upcoming turn notification it does like a fancy beep, it's a good volume, not too loud, not too soft... I'd say it's about perfect.

the 705 is not capable of voice to my knowledge... but what's odd is that the maps that come on the SD card actually have the voice files.

terrain

Nice - I have some 2 and 4GB SDHC cards - if they wont work I'll have to pick up a regular 2GB.

2 Bike Profile Bug - Has anyone else experienced this? It was in another post someone said that due to the new firmware if you switch to bike #2 the speed's go crazy....

kenshinvt

tons of people have been experiencing this problem.


Hey does anyone know the best way to translate a paper cue sheet onto the 705 (i.e. a specific, exact route with some offroad points)? I tried creating a track in mapsource and uploading it, but the 705 just crashed after saying "too many waypoints."

luv2climb

What you created was a route or a saved ride on the 705. A course is the best way. You can do it on many websites. One that I have played a little with is bikeroutetoaster.com.

Since you have Mapsource you can use this process (take few steps but you control it 100%):
- Create the route using the auto routing functionality in Mapsource
- Save this as a Mapsource map (.gdb ver 2)
- Download this utility https://www.softsolutions.be/GPS/Garmin/wingdb.htm
- Set the saved GDB file as the input on winGDB click the top option "Convert routes to tracks with all points"
- Set an output file (any name you want)
- Click Convert
- Open the new file in Mapsource again this time you should have a track instead of a route
- Save this as a GPX
- Pass the GPX file through Somejoes gpx2crs (https://www.niniu.com/Garmin/Gpx2Crs.zip). You will need .net to run this and that can be found here (https://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...f5&displaylang)
- Import to Training Center (optional for the 605/705, required for 205/305)
- Save on the Edge (via TC if 205/305, can do via file expolorer on 605/705)

Enjoy!

kenshinvt

wow, thanks for the detailed writeup. I'll definitely give this a try when I get home from work and can play around with mapsource. This seems really complex though.. that uses 4 different programs.

From what you've written I'm gathering that you created a Route because it's a lot quicker than drawing the track by hand in mapsource. Then you used a software utility to convert it to a bunch of track points (wingdb).

Why the final conversion to .CRS and the use of training center? I've only been using mapsource.. do I really need to download Training Center? Is this step really necessary or can I just send the track to the 705 using mapsource (though that's basically what i did already and was giving me the too many waypoints error).

One last thing--what if a route has a point where you say, cross an offroad junction? Can that be supported using these methods? I've got some cue sheets that cross unmapped areas.

luv2climb

You really don't need Training Center since you can copy the file manually to the 705. With the 305 you had to use TC to get the file on the unit. The .CRS allows you to use the virtual partner features.


No due to the fact that you are using the auto-route features of Mapsource, it will always keep you on a road. Now if you use the Topo maps and there is a trail that may work. I am sure there is a way but I don't know it. Maybe someone else can chime in.

kenshinvt

Ok so I got some tracks on there where the cue sheet goes offroad using the following process:

1. creating tracks in mapsource using track drawing command directly
2. save as v2 gdb
3. convert it in wingdb
4. open in mapsource and save as gpx
5. put file on 705 using explorer

Here is the part I can't figure out - sometimes when I hit "navigate" on the track in "saved rides" it brings it up on screen just fine. Other times it gives me a "route waypoint memory full error" and the thing freezes right when it reaches 100%. I've played with a lot of the variables and I just can't seem to get it to replicate this error consistently. Sometimes it freezes up, sometimes it doesnt. Thoughts? Had this happen with any routes/tracks?

I haven't had a chance to actually ride the track when it is working yet.