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Originally Posted by jeff-o
(Post 5323901)
Lower than brazing rod, you mean? Yeah, I think you're right. It melts at a higher temperature than regular solder, though.
And yeah, someone IS doing this... Dinotte. ;) |
Ok, this isn't total geekiness, and I doubt it even counts as minor geekiness, but it has geek elements in it. I was curious to see if the Energizer Energy to Go battery packs for cell chargers would work to charge a Garmin 305, so I plugged it in tried it out. Not only did it work, with some help from velcro, I was able to run the GPS off of the Energy to Go battery pack while riding. No interference, nothing. So now I can run at night, with the backlight on the entire time, and not worry about the GPS crapping out halfway into the ride.
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Originally Posted by diff_lock2
(Post 5317234)
I would suggest beefing up the thiner wires, like from that 9v thing. I used wires that small for my 20w halogen and they caused ridicules voltage drops (resistance). And its basically a free mod and better batt life.
So the fatman can handle up to 1A, and 3 seouls is like 10v (series), and you are feeding the fat man 7.2v (right?). So are you sure the leds are getting 1A? I am sure its really bright either way since its 100lm at 350mAh (per led). |
You Solder on your own wires from the snap plug. Like this:
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Originally Posted by KLW2
(Post 5326408)
This is the rod, works very well with a propane torch......I've used it for about a year to fix several things...:)
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I need to mount this in a better fashion.
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Im also running 12 AAs for my LED setups. I use 2 6 packs, they have quite tight springs so it difficuly to pry the batteries out for recharging...but I found that on the MTB over rough stuff the batteries can rattle out so I use a velcro tie around the whole thing to keep em in place. The light will sometimes blink out as the batteries momentarily lose contact. Only once have they gone out completely with this setup (yay for helmet lights). The battery pack sits in a neoprene pouch under the top tube.
Would like to find a nice 12 pack with a cover to securely locate the batteries. |
What light set up (how many leds, what Vf, and current) are you running and what kind of AA cells are you using?
I ask, because it would be interesting to compare run times. I am using a single 20w halogen 12v lamp (mr16), and the AA cells are rated at 3400mAh. I got 40min of bright operation and 20min of dimming light. Then i shut down the light cause i was worried about too much discharge. This sounds like the batteries did not perform as rated. It was the first charge and i didn't charge 4 of them fully so that might have contributed to lower run times. My black 5x2 holder is really snug... the white 2x1 holder sucks i am thinking of making an other 12 cell holder with all black ones. |
Well,just got done reading this thread,only took 2 days! I'm doing some research in order to make some commuting lights myself.I wish to thank everyone for there time and commitment to diy lighting.There is alot of good info here.I don't own a camera but my buddy does,so when I get mine finished I will have him take some pictures and show me how to post them(computers aren't my thing).
No questions really,but I do have a couple things that may be of some help.In the automotive world,there are some connectors called "weather-pak",first used by GM.They are weather tight,small,come in different wire sizes,lock together,come in 2-3-4 pins(maybe more),indexed and will take anything you can throw at them (you could hang a SLA battery from them). I don't understand why most people use SLA batteries.The only thing they have going for them these days is shelf life and cost,and that's open for debate.There heavy,they start losing there brightness the second you turn them on (discharge curve is not real good).NiCads or NiMH have a much flatter discharge(better light for longer period) and can be recharged 3-5 as many times,as long as you don't mistreat them(a smart charger will take of that).So I'm not sure SLA's are all that cheap in the long run. MR-11 and MR-16 bulbs come both covered and open,6 and 12 volt.MR-11's come 5w-35 watt or so,MR-16's come 5w-100w+(not as big of a selection in 6v as 12v) but still plenty for bike lighting.I'm still up in the air myself on which to use,MR-11 for there size or MR-16 for the light output for the same input.Seems like a no-brainer to me to over-volt these bulbs at 7.2/14.4(almost twice the light).So they only last 10% of what there rated,there 3 bucks! Whipping up a couple of aluminum housings for me is no big deal (been running mills and lathes for 30 years) but if I were to pick a housing out of all the ones I have seen,the Harbour Freight "Pond Scum" lights would be my choice.Not sure they would hang with 20w overvolting or some of the bigger bulbs,but they sure look good! One last thing,did your know that if you sink your car/truck up to the roof in FRESH water,that all of the electicals systems with motors still work? Starter cranks,electric windows work,wipers work,door locks work,headlights work.Don't ask me how I know this,but have done it MANY,MANY times.You can drive your car/truck right in to a lake and roll down the windows and swim to the surface. Thanks again everyone,best diy thread on the net!!! Booger1 Well on second thought I do have 1 question.Has any one thought of using the frame as ground if the batteries are not next to the lights,you could get rid of one of the wires. |
Originally Posted by Booger1
(Post 5373250)
Well,just got done reading this thread,only took 2 days! I'm doing some research in order to make some commuting lights myself.I wish to thank everyone for there time and commitment to diy lighting.There is alot of good info here.I don't own a camera but my buddy does,so when I get mine finished I will have him take some pictures and show me how to post them(computers aren't my thing).
Originally Posted by Booger1
(Post 5373250)
No questions really,but I do have a couple things that may be of some help.In the automotive world,there are some connectors called "weather-pak",first used by GM.They are weather tight,small,come in different wire sizes,lock together,come in 2-3-4 pins(maybe more),indexed and will take anything you can throw at them (you could hang a SLA battery from them).
Originally Posted by Booger1
(Post 5373250)
I don't understand why most people use SLA batteries.The only thing they have going for them these days is shelf life and cost,and that's open for debate.There heavy,they start losing there brightness the second you turn them on (discharge curve is not real good).NiCads or NiMH have a much flatter discharge(better light for longer period) and can be recharged 3-5 as many times,as long as you don't mistreat them(a smart charger will take of that).So I'm not sure SLA's are all that cheap in the long run.
All that being said, I will soon be buying two 7.2 volt NiMH RC car packs to power my light setup. :)
Originally Posted by Booger1
(Post 5373250)
MR-11 and MR-16 bulbs come both covered and open,6 and 12 volt.MR-11's come 5w-35 watt or so,MR-16's come 5w-100w+(not as big of a selection in 6v as 12v) but still plenty for bike lighting.I'm still up in the air myself on which to use,MR-11 for there size or MR-16 for the light output for the same input.Seems like a no-brainer to me to over-volt these bulbs at 7.2/14.4(almost twice the light).So they only last 10% of what there rated,there 3 bucks!
Originally Posted by Booger1
(Post 5373250)
Whipping up a couple of aluminum housings for me is no big deal (been running mills and lathes for 30 years) but if I were to pick a housing out of all the ones I have seen,the Harbour Freight "Pond Scum" lights would be my choice.Not sure they would hang with 20w overvolting or some of the bigger bulbs,but they sure look good!
One last thing,did your know that if you sink your car/truck up to the roof in FRESH water,that all of the electicals systems with motors still work? Starter cranks,electric windows work,wipers work,door locks work,headlights work.Don't ask me how I know this,but have done it MANY,MANY times.You can drive your car/truck right in to a lake and roll down the windows and swim to the surface.
Originally Posted by Booger1
(Post 5373250)
Thanks again everyone,best diy thread on the net!!!
Booger1 Well on second thought I do have 1 question.Has any one thought of using the frame as ground if the batteries are not next to the lights,you could get ride of one of the wires. Have fun designing your lights! Ken |
Weather-Pak terminals can be had at any auto parts store,big chain stores or mom @ pop.If they don't have them in stock,they can order them.
I guess if the SLA's are free....I'd still don't like the idea of strapping a gallon of water(weight wise) or more to my bike and humping it around town. Booger1 |
Originally Posted by Booger1
(Post 5373250)
I don't understand why most people use SLA batteries.The only thing they have going for them these days is shelf life and cost,and that's open for debate.There heavy,they start losing there brightness the second you turn them on (discharge curve is not real good).....
Well on second thought I do have 1 question.Has any one thought of using the frame as ground if the batteries are not next to the lights,you could get rid of one of the wires. I have been using my bike frame for the ground for years--works great. The only thing I have done differently is to have 2 contacts from the battery to the frame (seatpost). I have had the connection break from fatigue/age and there go your lights. A backup ground connection takes care of this issue. |
Originally Posted by cyccommute
(Post 4024835)
... Mine look like this:http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/IMG_0193.jpg
I use a Dean Ultra Connector and just jump the wire so that everything is in series. I rig mine like this: http://dtipton.home.att.net/img/series_app.jpg |
Originally Posted by tippy
(Post 5424950)
I use Anderson Power Pole connectors on the battery packs ... much easier to connect and doesn't need the additional "series" adaptor. Plus ... my charger has APP connectors which I can build adaptor cables for to attach any connector type to.
I rig mine like this: http://dtipton.home.att.net/img/series_app.jpg Where do you get them and how much? (For future reference) |
Originally Posted by cyccommute
(Post 5430259)
I use the Deans because they have a low resistance and that's what my RC car has on it. the Anderson's look good too but I've never seen them before. Considering the number of Deans I have around my house I won't be switching soon:rolleyes:
Where do you get them and how much? (For future reference) So I guess if you have a bunch of Deans already ... can't really blame you for bringin what you got. The last time I purchased the APP connectors, I purchased a pack of 50 (50 black, 50 red, 100 contacts). That's been about 5 years ago. You save more by buying in bulk (single connectors here and there will eat you alive). I'll try to remember where I got them but they are available everywhere in the lower quantities. |
Originally Posted by diff_lock2
(Post 5357428)
I need to mount this in a better fashion.
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Originally Posted by tippy
(Post 5431360)
I use the APP's in RC too so I guess I'm in the same boat. I mount the two 7.2 packs to my 12V RC starter (airplanes and helis). Don't have to worry about the long cord attached to your 12V hobby battery getting wound up in the prop :eek:
So I guess if you have a bunch of Deans already ... can't really blame you for bringin what you got. The last time I purchased the APP connectors, I purchased a pack of 50 (50 black, 50 red, 100 contacts). That's been about 5 years ago. You save more by buying in bulk (single connectors here and there will eat you alive). I'll try to remember where I got them but they are available everywhere in the lower quantities. |
Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma
(Post 5431957)
What LED are you using? What are you driving that LED at? What lens do you have mounted?
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Received my lenses, Q5 LEDs and bFlex - so now I have to learn how to solder. :eek:
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Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma
(Post 5431957)
What LED are you using? What are you driving that LED at? What lens do you have mounted?
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
(Post 5434065)
I think I had some of those long ago but I only ever had a few and couldn't find a supplier. Your system is more elegant than mine for doing the serial connection. Oh well, use what ya got;)
I got mine at www.acerracing.com. They offer a 50 pair kit (50 red, 50 black, 100 contacts) for 50.00. I don't know if they are the cheapest but they are cheaper than buying a pair at a time (look at their 2 pair price ... 3.39 for two pair ... yikes. Besides ... if you buy a 50 or 100 pair kit ... you won't buy any more for a long time. |
You folks saved me from making a huge mistake!
I just spent the last 4 days reading every single post in this thread and viewing most of the homebrew light pics that people posted... and I have to say "Thanks!"
I'm getting geared up to start bike commuting again, and my commute presents some challenges. My ride is only 10 or 11 miles each way, but I live several miles outside of town in a very rural area. So the first part of my ride is on unlit roads that are not just dark... they are utterly blacked out after dark! When it's cloudy or moonless, the surrounding trees make it sort of like riding through an unlit tunnel. For these stretches I need light to see by... good strong light. As I get nearer to my workplace, I'm faced with different challenges. I work on a military installation, so my lights must meet very specific guidelines. If you run bright lights on the base, the police tend to freak out and stop you every five minutes so that you can explain what the hell you're doing blinding other drivers. Most of the base is lighted very well with street lights, so I mainly need lights to be seen by. The last factor is rearward visibility. Some of the roads that I ride have some very fast moving traffic on them... lots of shoulder room and extra lanes for cars to give me space, but the cars need to see me a long way off. I need to give them plenty of reaction time. So you see... I was looking at buying 2 different headlight systems so I could turn off the high beams while on base... and some expensive tail light system for safety. I was looking easily at several hundred dollars. But no more! I'm an engineer and a tinkerer anyways, so you guys have inspired me to make my own lights! With the stuff that is available out there today, I figure I can put together a system that does exactly what I need it to do for about $100 or so. I could probably do it for less, but I hate shopping endlessly for prices and components. So thanks to you all... and look for me if you're ever out on Georgia's roads! Bobby |
I finally finished my light! I'll post pics tomorrow. It's running at 350 mA, and at the highest setting it outshines my wife's 10W halogen. I can't wait to bump it up to 750 mA!
I started a separate thread: http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=355361 |
Does anybody have any experience with this LED?
They claim the light output of a 20 watt Halogen. It would seem a quick and easy way to upgrade my MR16 based light. http://www.optotech.com/MR16_12V.htm |
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