ModoVincere

it looks interesting, but I think its a little too pricey.

Cyclist0383

What makes you say that?

boog

Not self contained. I want the battery and the light all in one unit, ala L&M's Vega but brighter. The Dinotte is so close to perfect, but I use my bike for running around at night all the time, and would like something I can take off and stick in my pocket fairly easily. My fenix p2d is great, but would prefer something with a wider beam.



boog

jsigone

looks like pretty decent mounts. Wish they had helmet camera pics/video of that light rather then diddling around in circles at couple mph.

ModoVincere

the price. I'm currently running a $10 dynamo and a $17.00 B&M Lumotec headlight. No batteries and enough light. But a battery light for a backup makes sense...just not $76.00 worth.

Cyclist0383

So it's not the price/output ratio, but rather the price in general?

ModoVincere

For me. YMMV.
I think the output looks reasonably decent. It would make a great backup light for me, but as a backup, I'd prefer something a bit cheaper because its not going to be used that much.

Cyclist0383

$76 isn't too much for me to know that my wife has a bright and highly visible light for the commute to and from work. I don't know of any bike specific light that is as bright for the price.

chainstrainer

"Two SSC P4 U-BIN Z-power LED's under Fraen optics. 10 degree narrow left and 15X30 elliptical right. Bridge rectifier and 1,000uF capacitor..."

Aye, Captain, but I'm uncertain the dilithium crystals can maintain the warp drive for long! She's taken about as much as she can handle! Scotty out!

ModoVincere

Nor do I. Its a matter of needs and I don't need that much.

cyccommute 

I went looking and came up with this from Duosun. They use optics to aim a small amount of light at the wheel. However from their picture



there is a huge gap between the light at the wheel and where the lamp is aimed. Although using some of the LED to provide some spill, they should have aimed the spill light up a little more. That's a pretty dark patch to leave unilluminated. My lights have similar illumination around the tire but they are continuous all the way to the bright spot of the lamp and beyond.



Granted, the light system above is about 40 times as bright but the light is very even from source to target.

Photosmith

Is that thing out yet? Originally they said the 1W would be out in April and the 2W would be out in June. Now the 1W watt says "ETA = May 2008" although it's still listed as out of stock, and the 2W has long since vanished from their website.

Cyclist0383

No idea, I just looked up the specs.

Cyclist0383

I just wrote back to Fenix-store asking for clarification on the beam pattern and beam shots. I'll post the response when I get it.

tdister

Local REI had the PB 1W model in stock. Gonna trade in the .5 watt version I just bought as a backup light. The .5 w model is too blue, the 1 w is nice and white. Haven't seen any sign of the 2w version.

jsigone

can't wait to see what they send over

Zero_Enigma

It is out. I've not heard of any news of the 2W unit. I did email PB about the 1W. Any images you see on the web that are gray in color is the OLD PB 1W public image. The final production model is WHITE on the housing.

www.Amazon.com has a few of the PB 1W Blaze in stock and ready to ship out. I want to see info (if anyone can dig it out) of the 2W version. I hope they make that unit gray or gray/black in color.

I'm loving my 1/2W Blaze units. Nice compact dual 'eyes' for easy on/off while shopping.

cyccommute 

The price/output ratio isn't all that great. I have yet to see a commercial LED unit that is. Commercial LED units are like full suspension mountain bikes of 5 years ago, i.e. they haven't matured enough yet. You may get something cool but next year's model is going to be way cooler.

And you were correct about the Blaze. I shot my mouth off without thinking. I was wrong. Sorry.

cyccommute 

Niterider TrailRat. Slightly more expensive, shorter run time but it does put out more light. Easily upgradeable to put out way more light.

As for run times, everyone is impressed by long run times. Why? Are you really riding to work and taking 6 hours to do it? Most people are doing 1.5 to 2 hours of commuting per day. A 6 hour run time may mean that you only have to charge every third day but what if you forget? Better to have run times closer to what your needs are and have to charge everyday. Having forgotten to charge and run out of power on the way home, I can tell you that it's not that pleasant of an experience

Cyclist0383

Why do I want a long runtime? I want a light with a long runtime so I can know that my wife actually has a working light. There is no way in hell shes going to keep track of her battery usage. With a 6 hour rumtime I know the light should last her for five days of commuting. There also no way in hell she's going to charge her batteries every day, and I'm not going to keep track of it either.

cyccommute 

The operative word there is 'should'. No battery produces what it 'should'. Some are a little over, most are under. As the battery ages, most go way under. And, if you don't use rechargeables, run time is a real crapshot. If you are really worried that your wife won't have a working light, then it's better to keep track of the charge rather then hope that the battery run for the 6 hours over a week.

Cyclist0383

Thanks, I'm knowledgeable about batteries, and keep mine well conditioned.

FWIW, it doesn't get truly dark here in the summer (when my wife commutes) until well past 23:00. I mostly want he to be seen by cars. I run a Fenix LD2 during the day in strobe mode and have noticed a massive difference in how cars react to me.

Photosmith

https://planetbike.com/files/catalog08.pdf

It's on page 4 of their 2008 catalog. It does show the 1W in white and the 2W in black.

Zero_Enigma

Thanks.

I'll have o start a new thread as I don't want to overload this thread with non topic comments.

Cyclist0383

It looks like the folks at Fenix Store/Four Sevens have flaked out on sending photos. Oh well.