It's a pity that one of the MTBR reviews is by EL34 and is so obviously biased.

It would be nice to be able to take any review at face value, but seeing as EL34 fancies himself as a P7 housing manufacturer and retailer and also that he attacked the new P7 cycle light as soon as it was released with lots of groundless accusations (apparently it's made of plastic ;) ) - it's clear that he is entirely biased and his review can't be trusted.

Very sad, as honest reviews are always worth reading.

:(

Anyone can make a valid criticism. If you think his review is not valid please point out why you think so with some actual details instead of just dismissing the whole review because you don't like the reviewer. He made a very detailed review, with lots of photos, and clearly backed up his impressions of the light.

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=526474

Actually I like the reviewer.

:)

However, if you want to criticise my observation please do so by PM.

Here's some good advice, I'm taking it - why don't you ?

PM only, thank you.

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=527707

Great review by troutie-mtb.

Concise, well written, informative. Presents the good and the bad fairly.

Very nicely said, troutie-mtb !!

Seems very unbiased and honest, just what us fence sitters have been waiting for.

Cheers :thumb:

:)

How do yo have knowledge that somone else order has been shipped out UC?? It is starting to feel like you are more than just a user and buyer from DX..

You pan the review of a DX item, it seems to be one of the more detailed reviews and he even had beamshots..

You have no right to tell me where to post on this forum as it's not yours. Once again I'll ask why do you think the review is bad? Just calling it so with nothing to back it up is dirty pool.

I'm not entirely sure where you are coming from, strange accusations, methinks you might be a little biased ?

In any case, anyone can see when I joined this forum, the questions I asked and when I placed my first DX order. Following on from that it's clear that went from a Q5 to a P7 and started making lights to run from a dynohub. If you really think I am in China or HK and work for DX you could check the times of my posts ? Or you could ask the guy in Dorset I sent some lights to ?

What are you accusing me of actually ? Can you clarify ?

The reason why I know someone else's order has been shipped is actually very simple - he told me.

One of the guys on here is fortunate enough to live near me, how lucky can you get ?

;)

I have nothing to say to you.

I don't have to answer to you.

Here's some good advice, I'd advise you to take it.

Thank you.

So for a light from DX that you haven't ever seen you'll give a positive review a thumbs up but immediately discount a very detailed critical review as being rubbish, offering no basis whatsoever as to why it's rubbish. Considering or posting history Vis-à-vis DX I'd say that you are the one showing bias.

I'm not interested in your opinion.

Try following this advice:

WHAT A SHOCKER, Call me biased because I have an opinion on DX that isn't pushing there products.. I have bought more than a handful of items from them, and dozens of high end lights over the last couple of years.. Many of the DX's arrive and do not perform to spec and some are just plain cheap.. But the reason people buy from them is the fact that they are the cheapest game in town.. I have given away more DX lights than I have kept.. I have never given away any of my fenix lights or lights bought from more prominent US sellers.. The US Sellers know the score if they provide a bad product, they will get hit hard by negative reviews and will lose sales.. DX doesn't have an issue with negative reviews because they know they are the cheapest seller on the web.. Of the couple of P7 lights I bought from DX, all had mode switching problems.. Not a big issue, easy fix with RE magnets, but it says something about QC of the product..

I'm not posting for you to respond to, but rather for others who might come across this thread. It's fair that they get a heads up to the fact that you are completely biased towards DX and those that give their items glowing reviews, and you have a history of trashing people who give unfavorable reviews to DX items,

I never mentioned DX.

When I said biased I was refering to your attitude towards me, which is somewhat borne out by the conclusion you have just jumped to.

In any case, I don't have an issue with any supplier, however I am not in the US (lots of members of this forum aren't BTW) so it would make little sense to pay more to a US supplier for what is quite often exactly the same item I can get post free on DX.

I've bought quite a few torches from DX and maybe I have been lucky - BUT all of them have been superb - so why shouldn't I say so ?

I've had problems with 2 orders (not torches) which DX sorted out fairly efficiently considering the distance.

I don't have a problem with US sellers, though I do believe if they are charging more they should provide more and I don't have a problem with you, I'm just here for the lighting.

;)

The moderators have asked yo to live and let live and I've asked you to.

For some reason you don't like me, ok I can live with that.

Therefore I suggest you take this advice:

TIA.

OK, enough back and forth. Ziemas, as far as I can see, UC hasn't violated any guidelines here. My best suggestion is the ignore button if you disagree with him that strongly.

UC, I would also suggest very strongly placing Ziemas on YOUR ignore list. This constant bickering is detrimental to the forums. You are both entitled to your views, but we do require that you discuss them in a civil manner. We don't want to have to step in any more on these spats, and next time will involve some penalty.

Thank you.

Tom Stormcrowe
Forum Administrator