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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
(Post 11689129)
Hadn't heard of that before.
I found this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrw-i5Ku0mI An even better one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30oPZO_z7-4 |
Originally Posted by 2_i
(Post 11687381)
Thanks, tatfiend, for the tip. With a Japanese trip coming up, I might try to get it there, hopefully for half of the Peter White's price and that mostly for collecting purposes. By now all critical bikes in my household are running dynohubs. A older Sanyo BB in my collection is without a remote.
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Heck, it doesn't even need to be a tube.
I just reproduced this at home with a piece of aluminum angle stock and a neodymium magnet. |
The amount of work that can be done is impressive. I'm pretty sure most of the free-fall style of amusement park rides use eddy currents as the primary braking force.
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
(Post 11689394)
Heck, it doesn't even need to be a tube.
I just reproduced this at home with a piece of aluminum angle stock and a neodymium magnet. |
Originally Posted by chucky
(Post 11682647)
This is silly. Just because something like a SON isn't mechanically decoupled it doesn't mean it isn't decoupled. The physical world consists of more than just mechanics which pea minded cyclists can see with their eyes.
A SON disengages when you turn the lights off and that disengagement is just as real as any mechanical disengagement (which won't be 100.00% efficient either). |
Originally Posted by 2_i
(Post 11688434)
Rotating magnets produce energy loss because they repeatedly change magnetization of the stator. This comes out as heat. In addition, moving magnets give rise to eddy currents that also yield heat. In a standard demonstration of the latter a cylindrical magnet is dropped down an alu tube where it comes to a virtual stop while neither significant mechanical losses are involved nor magnetization of the tube.
Keeping the magnets rotating serves the function of maintaining perfect contact and close tolerances. If you disconnect them then there either needs to be something mechanical to serve the same function such as a bearing OR you need to compromise the quality of the contact. There's no free lunch. It won't be perfectly efficient no matter how you design it and, at a given price point, in all likelihood the more complex design will less perfect.
Originally Posted by LWaB
(Post 11689019)
Actually, the discontinued LightSpin bottle dynamo was slightly more efficient than the SON, according to a German cycle magazine. Most bottle dynamos are designed to a price.
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