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Old 11-23-10, 07:24 PM   #26
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You may want to look at the 2x400 setup Dinotte has on special. One on the handlebars and one on the helmet is hard to beat. You also have the safety of N+1 should one die (unlikely though). The beauty of the helmet light is that you can use it to track with - something I use extensively dodging critters and inattentive drivers.

I think I paid $350 for the two light setup.

And in response to the poster that said you need a screwdriver to remove them, it takes just a bit of ingenuity. A threaded stud and a wing nut solves that in an instant.
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Old 11-23-10, 08:16 PM   #27
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DiNotte lights are very good. They are high quality lights but also relatively expensive, IMHO.

I have a 200L and a 140R. I also have a Fenix L2D Premium Q5 and a MS900.

First: a 200L is sufficient for most road riding I do. I also added a Fenix to the helmet and used this combo for 2 years; it worked well for me.

Second: the 300R is 2 of the 140R LEDs. I'm not sure why a 140R owner would sell a 140R to get a 300R. Personally, I'd just get a second 140R that way they can be spaced at different levels or distances. Plus, they run off of the ubiquitous AA battery.

Third: the MS900 puts out more than 400 lumens. People often lowball the MS900, I'm not sure why. My experience is that it's been a very good, reliable light that was an excellent value. I've had mine for a year and have only had battery problems (reduced runtime, and the battery is under recall and should be replaced by Geoman). In reality the MS900 puts out around 600 lumens. The MS900 on high makes both the 200L and the Fenix rarely used.

My advice to you:

1- Get more tail light than you think you need. You'll be glad you did when that car doesn't hit you. I've had my 140R since Oct. 2007 and haven't had a single problem with it.

2- If you have any left over, some options to consider:
a- waiting on a MS900 when the battery issue is fixed (Geoman said he hopes by the end of the month, so possibly within a week or two; $90)
b- the Sunwayman M40A flashlight (500 lumens on 4xAA batteries @ $140) or Fenix TK40 (630 lumens on 8xAA batteries @ $155); I have no experience with either, but I like the AA powersource for either
The Jetlite E series A51 ($199); I also have no experience with this one, but Jetlites has a good reputation
d- The above mentioned Fenix ($60)/DiNotte 200L ($100 w/o batteries and charger, on sale) combo that I used for two years. The only reason I moved to the MS900 was because it wasn't quite enough off road in fast group rides with other people using much brighter (and more expensive) set ups. When I was riding by myself off road, this combination was adequate.

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Old 11-24-10, 03:54 PM   #28
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I've been using the 4AA Dinotte 200 along with a 300 lumen LightOn dyno light. It works for all of my lighting but for pitch dark riding I'd like a shaped beam for riding above 15mph as too much energy is wasted blasting light above the road and not on the road. I don't have much experience with shaped beams other than the marginal Schmidt halogen light but I'd love to have it with a bright LED light. The Dinotte 200 and LightOn are enough light but they waste a lot when the beam is pointed 30' up the road. I'm up for recommendations on high output shaped beams and not blasting spot or flood lights.
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Old 12-06-10, 06:00 AM   #29
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I bought the 400/800 package two years ago. I love both lights. The 800 is on the bike -- I like having enough light that does not get washed out and a very bright blinking light during the day to catch the attention of drivers who may miss my bright vest. The 400 is set up on the elastic head band and I use it while walking the dog this time of year. Again -- a HUGE amount of light.

Before I bought mine I thought about the cost vs some lower cost options and decided to go for it. After two years I have no regrets.

I did buy a Magicshine as a back up and to use on another bike. It is bright but the build quality is not even in the same ballpark.
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I used a 200L for about a year and realized I really needed more light. Especially for the faster downhill sections where I actually had to use my brakes to stay within the reach of the light (I usually work just as hard going down a hill as up). Looking at the various options, I went for a pair of SSC P7 flashlights. I really like the convenience of not having to worry about wiring or battery-packs. And while their actual output of 500-700 lumens is lower than some claims, it's still significantly higher than the 200L.

For regular riding, I use one P7 on medium for about 400 lumens output. On fast downhills, I'll switch it to high. If the downhill's really dark and I'm going really fast and there's no street-lights, I'll switch them both to high for somewhere around 1200-1400 lumens output (2nd light is aimed further up for high-beam). Not bad for $80 and as much light as a car's headlamp.
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