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freighttraininguphill 04-30-11 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Guitarrick (Post 12576847)
I think my vid is 4X, it's been awhile since I made it. Might be 8X... and if I knew how to embed youtube vids that would be great, sorry. This might work..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJoxs-4KqZ0

Your bike trail looks a lot like ours. I'll be riding on it in the next couple hours. I love sped-up videos:thumb:

Guitarrick 04-30-11 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill (Post 12576886)
For embedding, click on the little icon that looks like a piece of film. It's just to the right of the "Insert Image" icon.

Thanks, maybe I can get it right :)


Originally Posted by freighttraininguphill (Post 12576912)
Your bike trail looks a lot like ours. I'll be riding on it in the next couple hours. I love sped-up videos:thumb:

Believe it or not we're pretty lucky around Cleveland of all places, we have an awesome network of trails/MUPs... (still wish I was in Cali...)

rm -rf 04-30-11 04:46 PM

There's a new Contour camera due soon.

From the article:
Unofficially, it’ll have a wider angle of video capture (170º, up from current model’s 140º, which will match GoPro’s top model). And, as the blurry quick pic after the break shows, HDMI out. We also noticed an external microphone port on the bottom and a nice glowing red light that comes on when the “record” switch is slid forward. A little birdy whispered something about availability in a month or two and that video quality would be bumped up a bit, too.
Camera shake is less visible on a wider angle shot. So this might be worth waiting for.


http://www.yourtechreport.com/wp-con...o-camera01.jpg

rm -rf 04-30-11 04:52 PM

There are now "keychain cameras" as low as $10.

Here's a sample video from one. It has the wavy picture problem where the scene being filmed moves faster than the scan within one frame. Still, it's really cheap, and these will probably get better soon.

Taped to a motorcycle:


On a model plane:

smasha 04-30-11 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by mechBgon (Post 12576524)
The lens cover scratches easily if you're trying to wipe mud off it, and replacements are rather expensive... if I have to buy any more, I'll just find a glass lens in that size instead of plastic.

ouch... have you tried flushing off the mud with water? that should flush away the mud without any harm... wiping would tend to grind it in.

mechBgon 04-30-11 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by smasha (Post 12577397)
ouch... have you tried flushing off the mud with water? that should flush away the mud without any harm... wiping would tend to grind it in.

That would be the best way, but I'd be doing that every few minutes on a muddy off-road ride, particularly if the camera's on the bike rather than the helmet.

On a related note, I'm trying out Adobe Premiere Elements' "stabilizer" filter. 3 hours left to render just the first clip, and that's with a Sandy Bridge i5 quad-core and 16GB of RAM... yikes :(


Do you happen to know if Sony Vegas will let you make a sped-up video with the audio sped-up as well? Windows Movie Maker 2011 mutes the audio when you speed up the video, so I had to use music on two sped-up videos I made with it, even though I normally prefer to make my videos with original ride audio, no music (with a couple exceptions last winter). When I did a sped-up climb video on a friend's MacBook Pro, iMovie sped up the original audio as well, so it was hilarious to listen tohttp://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...milies/lol.gif Here's the video made with the Mac:

I'll try to find out and post back later. System is a bit busy at the moment :D

Gharp23 05-02-11 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by rm -rf (Post 12577255)
There are now "keychain cameras" as low as $10.

Here's a sample video from one. It has the wavy picture problem where the scene being filmed moves faster than the scan within one frame. Still, it's really cheap, and these will probably get better soon.

You know they have different versions of those, and the #3 being the best quality of them all. I think there are 9 different ones out. A lot of people out there are selling the crap versions.. if you go here http://www.themicrocamera.com/ they only sell the #3 and also have an HD version that just came out. I'll post video later today of mine.

smasha 05-02-11 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by mechBgon (Post 12578040)
That would be the best way, but I'd be doing that every few minutes on a muddy off-road ride, particularly if the camera's on the bike rather than the helmet.

get a small squirt-bottle. i've got a 100ml squirt bottle from an ambulance that was originally full of saline. something like that would be perfect.

Sirrus Rider 05-02-11 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by cyclocommuter (Post 12568215)
I have been using GoPro HD cameras since these were released and have had no problems. Some of the people I know have been using Contour HD. IMHO, GoPro HD has better video quality (colors are more saturated). Also the 170 degree wide angle setting when recording at 720p gives a better perspective of speed, again my opinion.

It is indeed bulkier when mounted on a helmet but you can mount it on the handlebar, chest, etc., if this bothers you. The controls do indeed take getting used to but after a while you get accustomed to it.

EDIT: Here is a sample video from my 2 GoPro cameras (one mounted in the drops and the other one facing to the rear on the seatpost):

How are you including the elevation, bearing and the other data?

pixelharmony 05-03-11 12:22 AM

[QUOTE=Shreck;12571510]I had the GroPro mounted on the front of my helmet just at the bottom edge, I used the head strap mount with the straps removed and fastened it with cable ties and some small foam bits behind to stabilize the mount. I found the helmet mount to be weird on top. On the front of the helmet you would not know its there, plus if you leave the bold loos enough you can swing it down to see if the light is on.

2:31 does that guy have an ipad mounted to his bike??

cyclocommuter 05-03-11 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Sirrus Rider (Post 12586483)
How are you including the elevation, bearing and the other data?

All the telemetry info superimposed on the video comes from my Garmin 500 cyclocomputer. Data is exported into a file which is read by an application I wrote which then generates telemetry footage. This footage is synced to, and superimposed on, the ride video. There is much more info on the GPS such as Heart Rate, Cadence, Power output, etc., which can also be displayed on the video but I chose to display mostly the non-personal stuff.

ItsJustMe 05-03-11 03:45 PM

I'm also using a #3 keychain camera. I just decided that after 24,000 miles with no incidents, I couldn't justify spending much. 'Course, then last week I did have an incident, but it was in the near-dark and wouldn't have been captured on camera anyway.

brucewayne 05-05-11 12:39 AM

I've been researching the GoPro and Contour as well as the Oregon Scientific ATC9K. My friend has a GoPro and has no problems. The video quality on the cameras are fairly similar, though the GoPro comes with the waterproof shell but you have to buy the Contour waterproof shell separately. I've noticed the codecs are both H.264 but the GoPro uses .mp4 container and Contour uses .mov. It's getting a bit technical - .mp4 has more tagging options than .mov - but I think at that point it's just personal preference.

JonnyHK 05-05-11 05:29 AM

http://www.idv.net.au/

just saw the link to these. Look very small and the waterproof case seems to be the right type.

I'm presuming that this camera is available elsewhere in the world

freighttraininguphill 05-05-11 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by JonnyHK (Post 12598350)
http://www.idv.net.au/

just saw the link to these. Look very small and the waterproof case seems to be the right type.

I'm presuming that this camera is available elsewhere in the world

Of course they put @#$% music over the ENTIRE video, so potential customers can't evaluate the audio quality of the camera. That's a red flag to me.

ItsJustMe 05-05-11 10:04 AM

I don't know why people feel that they have to put sound tracks over everything. Ah well, there's always the mute button.

freighttraininguphill 05-05-11 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 12599648)
I don't know why people feel that they have to put sound tracks over everything. Ah well, there's always the mute button.

A-freaking-men! I am SO SICK AND TIRED of the infatuation with putting music over every video nowadays. Life is not TV. Too many wannabe producers out there I guess:rolleyes:

I only use music when there's no other choice. Like when rain got in the mic hole of my "waterproof" camera during a rainy ride and made the audio sound like crap. Or the times I've made sped-up videos with Windows Movie Maker 2011, which mutes the audio when you speed up the video. Other than that, raw video rules!

ToppDogg 05-05-11 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by cyclocommuter (Post 12589155)
All the telemetry info superimposed on the video comes from my Garmin 500 cyclocomputer. Data is exported into a file which is read by an application I wrote which then generates telemetry footage. This footage is synced to, and superimposed on, the ride video. There is much more info on the GPS such as Heart Rate, Cadence, Power output, etc., which can also be displayed on the video but I chose to display mostly the non-personal stuff.

Is this something you can point us too? I can parse XML but never played with GPX

magohn 05-05-11 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by ToppDogg (Post 12600641)
Is this something you can point us too? I can parse XML but never played with GPX

Cant you just use this? Looks fun to play around with... :)

http://www.dashware.net/

cyclocommuter 05-05-11 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by ToppDogg (Post 12600641)
Is this something you can point us too? I can parse XML but never played with GPX

Check out a similar app (open source) by VeryMAdMart:
http://sites.google.com/site/verymadmart/cyclecam

magohn 05-06-11 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by cyclocommuter (Post 12602486)
Check out a similar app (open source) by VeryMAdMart:
http://sites.google.com/site/verymadmart/cyclecam

The download link gives a "Page not found" - thanks.

ItsJustMe 05-06-11 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by magohn (Post 12604297)
The download link gives a "Page not found" - thanks.

Works OK here. Firefox 4, Windows XP

RT 05-10-11 08:23 AM

I have been watching this thread for a while now and this past weekend decided to finally step into the world of video. While not a classic helmet cam, my new Samsung F50 will be light enough at 8 oz. to mount to my helmet and get better video than any of the budget cams (Veho MuVi and the like) out there. The main reason behind the purchase was my daughter's HS graduation, but for $130 I felt I could not go wrong hoping to use it on the helmet as well. Battery life is incredible, but there's really no point in taking video on a century, so a half hour commute will be just fine with a 1Gb card.

Found some cool helmet mounts on DX, but I think there is a use for some old tubes I have lying around as a means to affix the cam to my helmet securely. Still developing the plan.

magohn 05-10-11 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by magohn (Post 12601314)
Cant you just use this? Looks fun to play around with... :)

http://www.dashware.net/

Just a follow-up. I used this software to incorporate Garmin 705 stats into my video. Excuse the quality - it was recorded in HD but I had to dumb the quality down for uploading to YouTube, else it would have been hours to upload (DSL).


____asdfghjkl 05-10-11 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by RTDub (Post 12621680)

how would you protect it from rain or if you have a fall?

ItsJustMe 05-10-11 12:51 PM

I think you underestimate how much 8 ounces is when strapped to a helmet.

RT 05-10-11 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by ____asdfghjkl (Post 12622667)
how would you protect it from rain or if you have a fall?

It is waterproof to 5 ft, which will be plenty of coverage for just rain. It's pretty dry here, and if the rain does start falling, stow the camera.

I do not fall.

RT 05-10-11 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by ItsJustMe (Post 12623131)
I think you underestimate how much 8 ounces is when strapped to a helmet.

My helmet weighs 8 ounces, and it doesn't bother me as opposed to riding helmetless.

ItsJustMe 05-10-11 04:23 PM

Make sure that whatever mount you use to put that on your helmet will break away if something hits the camera, otherwise hitting something with it could cause anything from neck injury to a crash.

oban_kobi 05-10-11 04:26 PM

My flashlight (~3oz) gets annoying sometimes. 8 would be really annoying.


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