Petzal - programmable battery for lights ? The future for all Li Ion?
06-09-11, 08:18 AM
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Petzal - programmable battery for lights ? The future for all Li Ion?
I came across this nifty advertisement for the Petzal headlamp.
I really, really like the idea, the ability to "program" battery/light power consumption.
Obviously this technology will cost, but in user friendliness, and real-world application it has to be where all personal lighting is going.
Be sure to at least watch the part 2 minutes into the schtick -heck watch the whole thing.
Are there other products out there that can do this?
I really, really like the idea, the ability to "program" battery/light power consumption.
Obviously this technology will cost, but in user friendliness, and real-world application it has to be where all personal lighting is going.
Be sure to at least watch the part 2 minutes into the schtick -heck watch the whole thing.
Are there other products out there that can do this?
06-09-11, 11:41 AM
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How does it make sense to set output level in the battery by using a computer instead of setting it by clicking a button on the headlight?
06-09-11, 01:28 PM
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How does it make sense to set output level in the battery by using a computer instead of setting it by clicking a button on the headlight?
The idea is to set up your light at power levels "you really need." Not just have the system default to "full power" or some low level you can not use either. If I could program my Magic Shine, I'd leave the full power alone, but create a new "low power" setting half-way between medium and low.
If you "don't get it" then you won't get it.
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If you "don't get it" then you won't get it.
Aside from the cost, I'm pretty sure this doesn't scale to higher power (yet). The max power I can find in their tech document gives a 4.5hr runtime, which means a 20ma current draw. Magicshine-level lights can draw several amps.
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yeah - right now a luxury - and its not really the battery doing anything - its an integrated circuit that somehow changes the values of semi-conductors, in this case, voltage regulators, using a software routine. Variable voltage regulators are already cheap - how they interface them with software is another matter.
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It's hardware permanently attached to the battery and sold as a unit. I'd say that makes it a part of the battery.
Are you guessing or do you have some more technical documents? Regulating voltage is easy; regulating current is more difficult. And scaling up from milliamps to amps is difficult to do with reasonable efficiency and heat.
its an integrated circuit that somehow changes the values of semi-conductors, in this case, voltage regulators, using a software routine. Variable voltage regulators are already cheap - how they interface them with software is another matter.
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There are a lot of products that have multiple outputs right now, they just aren't well known to people that aren't flashlight nerds. I use a Zebralight H51w as a headlamp with 3 main outputs which you can program. You don't need a computer to do it either, just a system of click, double-click, and long-clicks.
Just watch the video here and you can see what I mean.
https://goinggear.com/index.php?main_...oducts_id=2333
Just watch the video here and you can see what I mean.
https://goinggear.com/index.php?main_...oducts_id=2333
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Many of these lights use pulse-width modulation to control the brightness and could easily allow continuously variable output levels. I'd much rather have a slider or rotary dial on the light itself to let me select the desired brightness while riding to suit conditions instead of having to pre-program anything in advance.
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Many of these lights use pulse-width modulation to control the brightness and could easily allow continuously variable output levels. I'd much rather have a slider or rotary dial on the light itself to let me select the desired brightness while riding to suit conditions instead of having to pre-program anything in advance.
