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Old 09-23-11, 08:15 AM
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Light and Motion Urban headlights

Does anyone have any feedback about the Light & Motion Urban 180 or 300 lights? I need a light for those early morning and night training rides so most of my riding is on the roads and maybe on the towpath once in a while. I already have a couple taillights so I have the rear covered. These models seem to fit my price range (didn't want to go toooo cheap but also didn't want to spend an arm and a leg). Or can anyone offer other recommendations on lights that would fit my riding? Thanks.
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Old 10-15-11, 08:09 PM
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I just got the 300. On high it does last about 2 hours - ran it both ways on my 55 min commute and the indicator light said it had gone below 25%. But the light was still running at 2 hours. This is as advertised.

It has a really good flood and good range. I have a 3w Lowes flashlight that has a longer throw, but I'd feel totally confident going down a very dark road at 20 mph with just the 300.

The light seems very solid and well constructed. I'm not super confident in the rubberized mounting system but it works well.

The flashing mode is a bit slow for me, but I generally don't use flash.

I would get the 300 and not the 150.
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Old 10-29-11, 06:30 AM
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I just got the Urban 180 yesterday. It's amazingly bright for such a small light.

I am underwhelmed by the runtime though. I charged it fully (I think, there is ZERO documentation supplied except for some cryptic stuff printed on the box) to where the tiny LED on the back was blinking green, then let it run on HIGH power. After about an hour and 15 minutes it shut itself down. That's a far cry from the 2:40 claimed by L&M for this light. I am hoping that running it through a couple charge / discharge cycles will help even though I am under the impression that rechargable lithium ion cells don't usually benefit from that like NiMH cells do..

I recharged it overnight and am now running it on HIGH for it's second trial. It's been running for 1.5 hours at this point and the LED on the back is solid red, but the light is still running and appears to be still at full brightness. I will let it run until it goes black again and report back.
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Old 10-29-11, 10:10 AM
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OK, update.

After charging the light all night I let it run on high again as noted in my previous post. It ran at full brightness for 2:40. At almost exactly 2:40 it flashed for about 2 seconds, then went back to full bright. I think it was trying to suggest that if I would put it on FLASH mode instead of HIGH I could get more running time. Anyway, I left it on HIGH. It ran on HIGH (without any diminished brightness, as far as I could tell) for about another 10 minutes (to 2:50). Then it went into a rapid flash mode for about 10 seconds, then dark.

So, based on this very limited test, it does meet and even exceeds its spec (I shouldn't be surprised, based on previous experience with L&M). It will be interesting to see if it gets better run time after more power cycles, but it doesn't really matter, it's already doing better than advertised.

At this point, I am properly whelmed.
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Old 10-30-11, 08:03 AM
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I took the Urban 180 for a ride very early this morning. I live in the city, so there aren't many areas that are completely dark, but nonetheless that's where I normally ride, so at least for me it's a valid test. The 180 seems to me to put out plenty of light. Years ago I had a L&M HID light that was an absolute Death Ray, but honestly, at the speeds I ride (at night I probably average 10-12MPH), this little light is PLENTY bright enough. I think it's even adequate on FLASH mode, in which case it runs pretty much forever. While I was riding down the darkest street I could find with FLASH mode on, I could see it lighting up reflective signs a block away! It's definitely a great "BE SEEN" light, and for my purposes it's a perfectly adequate "SEE" light as well. I have an older Cateye TL-LD1000 (predecessor of the TL-LD1100) taillight which is also plenty bright, so I think I have my commuter lighting covered pretty well.

It was marked as $90 at Sports Basement, but since I am a member of the SF Bicycle Coalition I get a 10% discount there, making it only $81.00. That's a great price for such a cool little light.

One minor nit... the little amber sidelights on the Urban series seem like a good idea. However, at least for me, I doubt they are very visible to others. I tend to ride with my hands on the tops rather than in the drops. I even put interrupter / cross brake levers on because I spend so much time in that position. With my hands there, they do a great job of blocking the light from the amber sidelights. If I want them to be effective I will have to start riding "no hands" through intersections.
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Old 10-31-11, 02:01 AM
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Spec wise the Leynze lights seem to be a better value than the L&M. They cost less, have a similar output, and have non-propitiatory batteries that are cheaply user replaceable.

Towards the bottom of this page are some beam shots. https://reviews.mtbr.com/category/lights-shootout

Here's a review of the L&M range. https://reviews.mtbr.com/light-motion...ights-shootout

There should be a review of the Leynze soon at the same site.
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Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
Spec wise the Leynze lights seem to be a better value than the L&M. They cost less, have a similar output, and have non-propitiatory batteries that are cheaply user replaceable.
Irrelevant for me, since the mounting bracket Leynze uses has too much bulk in front of the bar and would interfere with my cross brake levers.
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