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Old 12-12-08, 03:40 PM
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Observations from Indonesia

I just got back from Bali Indonesia where there are a gazillion motorcycles. What struck me as odd was that everyone wore a helmet and had extremely bright and functional rear and front lights. So why do cyclists in the USA put cheap and ineffective lights on their bikes when people orders of magnitude poorer would not do it?

I know you are going to say motorcycles are more dangerous than cycles, but for purposes of this discussion let's say they are equally dangerous.
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Originally Posted by veggie_lover
I just got back from Bali Indonesia where there are a gazillion motorcycles. What struck me as odd was that everyone wore a helmet and had extremely bright and functional rear and front lights. So why do cyclists in the USA put cheap and ineffective lights on their bikes when people orders of magnitude poorer would not do it?

I know you are going to say motorcycles are more dangerous than cycles, but for purposes of this discussion let's say they are equally dangerous.
They wear their coats backwards when they ride too.
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They wear their coats backwards when they ride too.
I noticed that, how come ?
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Comparing lights on small motorcycle vs. a bike is apples and oranges.
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The lights are more for bling than practicality.
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Originally Posted by veggie_lover
I noticed that, how come ?
Prevents air entering the jacket and billowing. Jackets with a zipper are common here so air entry is not a problem. If your jacket has buttons air will enter the jacket between the buttons inflating it making you colder than if you were not using a jacket at all. You'll see some with a jacket with a zipper worn backwards. They do that because it's become a cultural thing.
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Originally Posted by znomit
The lights are more for bling than practicality.
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Originally Posted by veggie_lover
I just got back from Bali Indonesia where there are a gazillion motorcycles. What struck me as odd was that everyone wore a helmet and had extremely bright and functional rear and front lights. So why do cyclists in the USA put cheap and ineffective lights on their bikes when people orders of magnitude poorer would not do it?

I know you are going to say motorcycles are more dangerous than cycles, but for purposes of this discussion let's say they are equally dangerous.
Did you actually ride on any of those motorcycles? I have, and Denpasar traffic is a hell of a lot different than Des Moines.

I didn't have a helmet, nor did my local friend driving, but the motorcycle came factory equipped with lights, which is why people have them. There might also be a law, as there is here in Latvia, that one must always drive with their lights on.
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It helps if you can burn gasoline to generate electricity and haul the weight around instead of having to carry batteries for power and all of your lights with your own labor.
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Hey Veggie Lover! I'm planning a tour of bali in a couple months. What are rentals like there? Is it possible to get a quality touring bike, or should I bring my own? Thanks much!
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Originally Posted by n4zou
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Can't believe the magneto in that thing puts out enough power to run even half of those!
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Originally Posted by veggie_lover
gazillion motorcycles
LOL

Originally Posted by veggie_lover
extremely bright and functional rear and front lights
sometime they remove red cover on tail light which make us blinded LOL
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Originally Posted by Buckeye1887
Hey Veggie Lover! I'm planning a tour of bali in a couple months. What are rentals like there? Is it possible to get a quality touring bike, or should I bring my own? Thanks much!
i think there is ton of rental down there really also the traffic a lot different than your place LOL
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Originally Posted by Buckeye1887
Hey Veggie Lover! I'm planning a tour of bali in a couple months. What are rentals like there? Is it possible to get a quality touring bike, or should I bring my own? Thanks much!
This thread is from 2008, and veggie_lover last visited the Forums in 2009. I doubt he'll be around to answer your questions.
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This thread is from 2008, and veggie_lover last visited the Forums in 2009. I doubt he'll be around to answer your questions.
Glad you pointed this out as I was about to ask a question. I hate it when people dig up threads that are years old and then ask a question as though the conversation were still going on.
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