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Flashlight to headlight is ____ to taillight?

Old 10-10-12, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by noglider View Post

Using flashlights as headlights, however, can save a lot of money. Unfortunately, my 18650 headlight isn't visible from the sides. In the end, I think a purpose-built headlight is best. Also, I think the ideal beam is produced when the light is mounted slightly above or slightly below the tire (when you have a 700c wheel).
I agree, For be seen ... maybe. For seeing things, bike lights have much wider beam shapes that produce WAY more light that an albiet very high quality/cheap LED flashlight. And the runtimes are greatly extended by rechargeable Li-On battery packs.

There are always the Magicshine lights. You will NOT get the lumens claimed on the box, but it will be significantly better than a flashlight plus ... you will probably get a headband mount to go along with. And for me, headlamps are SOOOO much better than flashlights for anything requiring that I actually use my hands.

BTW, I don't use Magicshine lights. I have Cygolites (4th year in operation, still going strong). Magicshine lights are just the best budget lights out there.
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Old 10-10-12, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by willtsmith_nwi View Post
I agree, For be seen ... maybe. For seeing things, bike lights have much wider beam shapes that produce WAY more light that an albiet very high quality/cheap LED flashlight. And the runtimes are greatly extended by rechargeable Li-On battery packs.

There are always the Magicshine lights. You will NOT get the lumens claimed on the box, but it will be significantly better than a flashlight plus ... you will probably get a headband mount to go along with. And for me, headlamps are SOOOO much better than flashlights for anything requiring that I actually use my hands.

BTW, I don't use Magicshine lights. I have Cygolites (4th year in operation, still going strong). Magicshine lights are just the best budget lights out there.
There's truth to a lot of what you said, but...

Let's pretend that I need a front light and my budget is really tight- a max of $50. Don't want the hassle of a external pack or wiring, as I'm a commuter who doesn't have the most secure parking and has to remove anything that I expect to use again. So what would be my options? Oh, yeah, forgot to add I'm night blind...

I'll tell what my choices were, as the above scenario played out earlier this year. I could either go with any number of the bike specific lights that ran off of AA or AAA for the money, which research indicated that anything I could afford would be too weak to be even close enough to 'see by' for me OR I could take a chance and get a flashlight that runs a 1x18650 format. I ended up with a flashlight rated at 510 lumens (claimed, no way to verify, but can attest that it is bright), 2 protected 18650 cells, a charger, and a mount for roughly $45.

As far as MS lights being better than flashlights, well, that's not entirely true. It depends on what you are comparing to. If comparing a MS to a flashlight with a XP-G emitter, sure the MS is gonna win the output category. However, the MS against a XM-L T6 or better yet a U2, then the difference in brightness is a coin toss. The MS wins the run time, but the flashlight wins the portability off the bike.
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Old 11-24-12, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
I could either go with any number of the bike specific lights that ran off of AA or AAA for the money, which research indicated that anything I could afford would be too weak to be even close enough to 'see by' for me OR I could take a chance and get a flashlight that runs a 1x18650 format. I ended up with a flashlight rated at 510 lumens (claimed, no way to verify, but can attest that it is bright), 2 protected 18650 cells, a charger, and a mount for roughly $45.

As far as MS lights being better than flashlights, well, that's not entirely true. It depends on what you are comparing to. If comparing a MS to a flashlight with a XP-G emitter, sure the MS is gonna win the output category. However, the MS against a XM-L T6 or better yet a U2, then the difference in brightness is a coin toss.
In this post mechbgon links beamshot photos to compare the Ultrafire WF-501B Philips Luxeon K2 Red LED Flashlight, currently $10.40 without a battery, to several bike-specific tail lights. The Ultrafire holds up well against the more expensive Cygolite Hotshot; the Hotshot has a more focused beam but the Ultrafire has a little wider coverage. I assume the Hotshot has dimmer settings which would be good riding in a pack at night, and the Cygolite comes with a bike mount.

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Old 11-24-12, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by no1mad View Post
Let's pretend that I need a front light and my budget is really tight- a max of $50. Don't want the hassle of a external pack or wiring, as I'm a commuter who doesn't have the most secure parking and has to remove anything that I expect to use again. So what would be my options? Oh, yeah, forgot to add I'm night blind...
Not sure I see the external pack/wire as a hassle for that situation. Just picked up a claimed 1200 lumen (prob. really about half that) bike specific light for $35 which included both a handlebar mount and a head/helmet mount. For the situation above I'd opt to use the helmet mount and put the battery pack (four 18650 cells in thick shrinkwrap) in my pocket. That way there's nothing to remove from the bike and the light has plenty of runtime.
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