Why is USB charging popular now?
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The most common connector used on computers is the "standard A". The charger linked-to above is a "standard A" charger.
You can get cables that convert "standard A" to the various other standards (micro A, micro B, mini B, type B.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
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There are multiple standards for connectors.
The most common connector used on computers is the "standard A". The charger linked-to above is a "standard A" charger.
You can get cables that convert "standard A" to the various other standards (micro A, micro B, mini B, type B.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
The most common connector used on computers is the "standard A". The charger linked-to above is a "standard A" charger.
You can get cables that convert "standard A" to the various other standards (micro A, micro B, mini B, type B.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
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I am almost never away from a place where I have a computer running 24/7 anyway.
If you have the computer on and running anyway, then it's actually QUITE efficient to charge from it versus the inefficiency of plugging in an adapter that's only running to charge that one thing.
Also, everyone has too damned many adapters sitting around. I have a fairly large cardboard box full of adapters for things I haven't owned in decades. I only keep them because I have the space and sometimes I have a need for a spare adapter that puts out X volts at Y milliamps, and I go digging.
It'd be much better if everyone just had the same adapter when possible.
If you have the computer on and running anyway, then it's actually QUITE efficient to charge from it versus the inefficiency of plugging in an adapter that's only running to charge that one thing.
Also, everyone has too damned many adapters sitting around. I have a fairly large cardboard box full of adapters for things I haven't owned in decades. I only keep them because I have the space and sometimes I have a need for a spare adapter that puts out X volts at Y milliamps, and I go digging.
It'd be much better if everyone just had the same adapter when possible.
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Just curious - why is USB charging of things like bike lights and other things so popular now? I was under the impression that it was much more inefficient to put a computer in the power transfer path from outlet to USB as compared to a direct wall plug in.
I'm aware of the ease of expanding USB with a USB expander hub, but even with that option, I still prefer something that doesn't depend on my computer to be powered/plugged in for charging.
I'm aware of the ease of expanding USB with a USB expander hub, but even with that option, I still prefer something that doesn't depend on my computer to be powered/plugged in for charging.
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Your link is the correct one. If you actually order, make sure to get the more expensive version with USB if that's what you want, there is a cheaper version that doesn't have charging.
I'm sure the Luxos is brighter than any CYO. You should look at the beamshots on Peter White's site, they are HERE The Luxos U puts out a lot more light than anything else, it's almost hard to believe.
I'm sure the Luxos is brighter than any CYO. You should look at the beamshots on Peter White's site, they are HERE The Luxos U puts out a lot more light than anything else, it's almost hard to believe.
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There are two slightly different mini USB charger plugs that are not compatible, which sux. I believe we can thank the camera people for that. The camera mini is
a bit fatter and hollow on the end where the cell phone mini is flatter and has plastic infill with 5 wires in the end. Wiki suggests this is an evolutionary thing and
the thinner plug is microUSB-B meant for charging mostly but can be used for data and the thicker is miniUSB-B
a bit fatter and hollow on the end where the cell phone mini is flatter and has plastic infill with 5 wires in the end. Wiki suggests this is an evolutionary thing and
the thinner plug is microUSB-B meant for charging mostly but can be used for data and the thicker is miniUSB-B
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the lady at the verizon store told me when i bought my galaxy s3 that the gov't mandated some sort of standardization of chargers. something to do with filling the landfills with old chargers.
it makes sense, it was way out of hand, every time you buy a new device you had to buy a new charger. now they're all moving towards micro usb. i can use the same charger to charge my phone, my headset and my bike light.
somehow apple is exempt. they still have a different, proprietary charger every time they come out with a new iphone.
it makes sense, it was way out of hand, every time you buy a new device you had to buy a new charger. now they're all moving towards micro usb. i can use the same charger to charge my phone, my headset and my bike light.
somehow apple is exempt. they still have a different, proprietary charger every time they come out with a new iphone.
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Now the iPad is another story; When the screen is operating, it draws more than the USB standard can supply, so the iPad USB charger has a higher output than the USB standard. However it *can* charge when the screen is off, i.e. sleeping or shutdown. An Apple info page here: https://support.apple.com/kb/HT4049?viewlocale=en_US
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There are two slightly different mini USB charger plugs that are not compatible, which sux. I believe we can thank the camera people for that. The camera mini is
a bit fatter and hollow on the end where the cell phone mini is flatter and has plastic infill with 5 wires in the end. Wiki suggests this is an evolutionary thing and
the thinner plug is microUSB-B meant for charging mostly but can be used for data and the thicker is miniUSB-B
a bit fatter and hollow on the end where the cell phone mini is flatter and has plastic infill with 5 wires in the end. Wiki suggests this is an evolutionary thing and
the thinner plug is microUSB-B meant for charging mostly but can be used for data and the thicker is miniUSB-B
microUSB is the becoming the international standard. Almost all the gadget companies have agreed to use microUSB in their products. All my recent cell phones (from various brands) use microUSB. My new camera also uses microUSB.
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All of the Apple chargers (for phones and tables) have USB standard A connectors. The tablet chargers have higher amp output.
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Not quite.
https://www.danreetz.com/blog/2011/01...phone-charger/
https://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/icharge.html
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Funny thing is my iPod, Ipad, and iPhone are connected to the Mac via a generic *powered* USB 2.0 hub, and all charge just fine. (The iPad must have the screen off to charge, of course). I wouldn't have expected this hub to have any special tweaks for Apple, but maybe it does. Or perhaps because they are seeing the data lines from the Mac, that keeps them happy.
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Still on the fence with USB lights and such on a bicycle. I guess for me, since I own a dozen or so rechargeables in AA and AAA it just doesn't make sense for me to make the switch to USB.
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I am almost never away from a place where I have a computer running 24/7 anyway.
If you have the computer on and running anyway, then it's actually QUITE efficient to charge from it versus the inefficiency of plugging in an adapter that's only running to charge that one thing.
Also, everyone has too damned many adapters sitting around. I have a fairly large cardboard box full of adapters for things I haven't owned in decades. I only keep them because I have the space and sometimes I have a need for a spare adapter that puts out X volts at Y milliamps, and I go digging.
It'd be much better if everyone just had the same adapter when possible.
If you have the computer on and running anyway, then it's actually QUITE efficient to charge from it versus the inefficiency of plugging in an adapter that's only running to charge that one thing.
Also, everyone has too damned many adapters sitting around. I have a fairly large cardboard box full of adapters for things I haven't owned in decades. I only keep them because I have the space and sometimes I have a need for a spare adapter that puts out X volts at Y milliamps, and I go digging.
It'd be much better if everyone just had the same adapter when possible.
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Cadmium batteries(re-chargeable or not)don't last as long, and end up in a landfill.
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NiMH has been the choice for 10+ years and is far less toxic and lasts a lot longer, and can also be sent to a proper recycler. Definitely a win versus using alkalines.
Anything that's the topic of this conversation, USB rechargables, almost certainly uses LiIon batteries which also last quite a long time.
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Something nobodys brought up is charge time. A USB has a fixed output which is very minimal and takes forever to charge a battery. Typically 5 hours to charge a Lipo battery equivalent to a couple AA cells . A smart AA cell charger can charge multiple cells individually and do an equivalent capacity in an hour.
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I keep one of these in the garage for charging my lights. No computer required.
Lots of ways to do it without a computer. I particularly like the plugs that are flat, and how I can charge just about any device I own with two cables.
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Something nobodys brought up is charge time. A USB has a fixed output which is very minimal and takes forever to charge a battery. Typically 5 hours to charge a Lipo battery equivalent to a couple AA cells . A smart AA cell charger can charge multiple cells individually and do an equivalent capacity in an hour.
Then Apple has increased the output on some of their chargers up to 1.1A. My iPad announces it cannot charge on a standard USB powered hub, but when the screen is off, it actually does charge. The hub just can't provide enough current to run the display *and* charge the battery at the same time.
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USB v1 and v2 specify 0.5A output. USB v3 bumps it up to 0.9A.
Then Apple has increased the output on some of their chargers up to 1.1A. My iPad announces it cannot charge on a standard USB powered hub, but when the screen is off, it actually does charge. The hub just can't provide enough current to run the display *and* charge the battery at the same time.
Then Apple has increased the output on some of their chargers up to 1.1A. My iPad announces it cannot charge on a standard USB powered hub, but when the screen is off, it actually does charge. The hub just can't provide enough current to run the display *and* charge the battery at the same time.
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Because there is an electronics screen addiction..
I went for a walk on the beach 3 kids were standing in the sand where the sea wet their feet.
only one was fully at the beach, in it,
the other 2, the older girls, were staring at a small screen in their hands.
I went for a walk on the beach 3 kids were standing in the sand where the sea wet their feet.
only one was fully at the beach, in it,
the other 2, the older girls, were staring at a small screen in their hands.
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I was talking about the maximum power draw per *port*.
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USB v1 and v2 specify 0.5A output. USB v3 bumps it up to 0.9A.
Then Apple has increased the output on some of their chargers up to 1.1A. My iPad announces it cannot charge on a standard USB powered hub, but when the screen is off, it actually does charge. The hub just can't provide enough current to run the display *and* charge the battery at the same time.
Then Apple has increased the output on some of their chargers up to 1.1A. My iPad announces it cannot charge on a standard USB powered hub, but when the screen is off, it actually does charge. The hub just can't provide enough current to run the display *and* charge the battery at the same time.
Chargers are not proper USB com devices, they use various wiring tricks to let the device know that it can draw more power. On many Android devices, the data pins are shorted together. On Apple devices, there's usually a resistor based voltage divider on the data lines telling the device it's OK to draw more power.
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I'm too lazy to remember to charge a bicycle light so I go solar.
Since the selection for solar lights is lame, I've bought some lights that run on 3V, popped in rechargeable batteries and soldered in a solar cell.
Since my bike is stored outside, I never worry about dead lights.
Since the selection for solar lights is lame, I've bought some lights that run on 3V, popped in rechargeable batteries and soldered in a solar cell.
Since my bike is stored outside, I never worry about dead lights.