rubic

So, use it only during daylight.

trekmogul 

Ordered mine just this am..Look forward to firing it up on the trail..

trekmogul 

Just came in this am and ordered it with the 4 cell battery and that took about 4 hours for a complete charge. I must say it is INSANE even in the day time in flash mode..WOW..The build quality is quite good i must add.

DadBikes11

Hello all! I am also eagerly awaiting some photos, videos and a general review of this new product. Please share!

In particular, I would like to know the following:
1.) Is there a setting that is compatible with daytime group rides?
2.) Where does it slot between the Design Shine and regular 400r?
3.) How is the off-axis visibility?
4.) At what level of dusk/darkness does this light become inappropriate?

I am thinking of purchasing this product along with a planet bike superflash or a blackburn mars. The DiNotte would be my go-to light for daytime riding and group rides with the local club. The other light would be there for backup in case my main battery runs out or if I find myself needing to ride at night. I think this combination would suit all of my needs. Any feedback from current owners would be helpful.

01 CAt Man Do

Like most people I have yet to see one of these yet in person. Regardless I expect the output to be INSANELY BRIGHT! While I can't speak for others, if someone in my club brought something like that along to use on a club ride I would be absolutely irate. No way do I want to be looking at something that bright shining in my face while on a 35 mile club road ride. For that matter I really feel that "ANY" bright rear LED lamp would be inappropriate on a group ride, day or night ( unless of course you plan on bringing up the rear the whole ride ).

These lamps are designed for solo use or commuting. They are intended to help make you stand out when otherwise you would have little road-side presence. In group rides your presence to other road users is enhanced by the presence of the other cyclist in the group. Wear a good bright jersey and only use a rear light on the lowest of low levels. When the sun starts to go down find a blink mode pattern and output intensity that won't annoy the other cyclist behind you. The Cygolite Hotshot has a very good UI that can easily accommodate someone wishing to use a rear light on a group ride. I like the steady setting ( for group rides ) where I can then dial down the output so it just barely glows.

Spliced

Ask and you will be rewarded: https://illuminyesi.blogspot.com/2013...roduction.html

Perhaps later on I can answer some of these specific questions and/or others posted here. In sum, the DiNotte 400+ is a top-notch/state-of-the-technology light with a puzzling release. On "illuminyesi," I intend to devote my next few posts to unraveling all of these elements.

10 Wheels

Our group of 8 riders use Dinnotte Tail Lights with no problems.

seeker333

Beamshots in your hallway are useless to us. Do it right or quit wasting time.

If you need ideas how to do this, spend some time over at Youtube.

Spliced

An interesting perspective: better to have no information at all than not have exactly the information you want.

seeker333, I have no obligation to you at all. I recommend that you contact and hire those Youtube folks if you want it done the way they do it.

That being said, yes, some people have done good work on Youtube and I strongly encourage them to review this light using their methodologies. Perhaps someday I can look forward to using some of their methods. In the meantime, I will continue with my own project(s).

01 CAt Man Do

Hey, to each their own.

Personally If I was starring into a 200 lumen / pulsing red light while drafting someones rear wheel I would find that very annoying. Now if your off the back maybe 500 ft or so then maybe it's not so much of a problem. Of course at that distance you start to lose the dynamic of a group ride.

Your group of 8 is small as group rides go. If you have everyone on board with using bright tail lights then I suppose you're good. I can only speak to what annoys me. That said I'm sure I'm not alone in my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I love bright rear lights. I just don't want to have to deal with one being in my face for a 3 hr group ride.

10 Wheels

Hey, Enjoy your rides.

He Did.

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Commodus

here's a classy post right here.

01 CAt Man Do

When I see photo's like these it reminds me that I often tell people that I almost feel safer riding at night ( on the road ) then in the day. With multiple front lights ( one a mini-strobe ) , wheel lights, two bright rear lights and reflective clothing, I feel I'm more visible at night than in the day. If someone was to hit me at night they would have a real hard time explaining to the judge how they didn't see me. ( provided I'm still alive to show the judge the video I have of my bike all lit up. )

Spliced

In reply to DadsBikes11:

1. Yes, the lowest setting is less bright/shocking than the DiNotte 300R.

2. I can't say because I have no experience with either the DS-500 or the DiNotte 400R. My guess is that it probably is very similar to each depending on the setting used.

3. Off-axis visiblity is the same as the 400R, I expect, and likely to be worse than the DS-500, which has a specific design targeting this area.

4. I would say "never" for the lowest setting, fifteen minutes after sunset for the "medium" setting, and immediately as the sun dips behind the horizon or a low cloud for the "high" setting.

01 CAt Man Do

Very good advice Spliced. In retrospect it does make me smile though because when I first got my Moon Shield I remember thinking that the "high setting" was too bright to use when it was completely dark. Then when I got an even brighter light ( Geinea 1 rear ) all that thinking went right out the door.

The minute you get a brighter light all opinions on "what is too bright", has to be reevaluated. No question in my mind though that if you're riding along with another person and that person occasionally drafts your rear wheel you don't want to blind that person with something too bright. This doesn't mean you have to forgo your rear visibility to approaching vehicles, it just means you take a different approach. In my case If I had someone with me I would use a couple small "frog type" lights on the chain stays and a Hotshot on the seat post used at a low level. If I used a blink mode I would aim the light more down. All said this strategy would still draw attention from approaching vehicles but shouldn't blind my buddy riding my rear wheel.

In the future I look forward to rear lights that have a "wireless remote feature". With wireless remote you could have the option to change the output on the fly. That could come in real handy for group rides. Done right the lamp would have a programmable feature which would allow the user to preset all the modes for intensity as well as "blink or non-blink sequence". Once set you could have one mode preset for when your buddies are right behind you.

Spliced

Thanks, CatMan.

Here's another short post comparing the DiNotte 400+ High/Low settings during daylight hours: https://illuminyesi.blogspot.com/2013...-glance_6.html

Burton

Guess what I'm a little surprised and disappointed with is the beam configuration. With it pretty much being general knowledge now that a round headlight beam wastes a lot of light by throwing it up in the air - why would it be such a stretch to apply the same thinking to the rear?

Started off with a dual spot rear myself and ended up adding spreader lenses to both. Now the lens configuration won't blind traffic following me but will definately still get noticed since it lights up the complete lane behind me. Its actually more than bright enough to drive with - which since we're talking about red LEDs - is a lotta light.