DXchulo

I've been a commuter for a long time, but I've never needed anything more than "be seen" headlights on my commutes. I've kept my recreational dark riding to a minimum (maybe an hour in the dark at most), so I've never felt the need to buy a "see" headlight.

My work schedule is changing soon and I'm going to have to do more of my recreational riding in the dark, so it's time to invest in a good headlight setup. I want quality stuff, but I can't really justify some of the $500+ lights out there. Any help would be appreciated on what you would recommend with about a $300 budget. Would you go for one light, or would you go for one on the bars and one on the helmet? I do like the idea of a helmet light because there are some twisty downhills around here where that could come in handy.

Obviously safety is number one, but I'd say battery life is the next highest priority after that. I'm not too concerned about how convenient the mounting hardware is because I won't be commuting with it. Lighter is better, but weight isn't a high priority on my list. Nothing personal, but I'm not interested in a Dynohub at this time.

storckm

I really like generator lights. If you don't want to go with a generator hub, I'd recommend the Bausch und Müller Dymotec 6 sidewall generator. It runs about $50, and worth it: the roller is replaceable, and tension can be adjusted from very light to quite heavy enough to give traction in the rain or snow. I've used one for some years now, and won't be buying any other sidewall generators in the future--I've used about four other models. For the actual lights, I like the Lumotec Fly IQ plus, a quite bright LED with standlight for around $75. For a tail light, I'm not too choosy. Anything with a standlight is good enough, and it's easy enough to run two taillights, if you like. On my main commute bicycle, I have a fender mounted light from AXA and another on my rack (also AXA, I believe), both powered without any problems from the dymotec. So for well under $200, you can get together a quite good generator system. I have a B & M CYO IQ Plus (around $100) on one bicycle, and it's quite bright. With your budget, you could get the super duper $160 Luxos B (but not the $230 Luxos U), two taillights, the dymotec, and still be within your $300 budget.

ItsJustMe

Go to https://www.action-led-lights.com/ and shop around there. The Magicshine 808 is similar to the $30 cheapies off ebay and at $80 gives you all the waterproofing and more rugged wiring. The $199 Magicshine is a heck of a nice upgrade from there.

All the lights at Action-LED are good and are reasonable prices.


If you want to try the inexpensive stuff first (this stuff works well for me but if I was starting over with the budget I have access to now, I'd probably go with one of the above).

I really like the $30 "1600 lumen" bicycle lights off eBay, if you add in the wide angle lens also available for < $10 there. The two together are everything I want in a light as far as how well they light things up and how well they make me be seen. The runtime is pretty good at around 2.5 hours.

The downside is the battery is not waterproof, so either you waterproof it with a plastic bag or add an extension cable and drop the battery in a waterproof pannier or something.

no1mad 

OP, you stated battery life or run time is a top priority, but you failed to state the desired time. Your answer to that will help narrow down the field a bit.

pdlamb

On- or off-road? Off-road, I hear, you want a hemispherical lighted area to see the tree limbs; on-road, you don't need so much coverage, and can save on the brightness and, therefore, get longer runtime.

DXchulo

The longer the better, obviously. I'd prefer 3 hours and up if possible. I know a lot depends on how often you're using the highest setting.

DXchulo

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ItsJustMe

3 hours is kind of standard for most lights with a 4 cell 18650 pack. Maybe less but certainly over 2 hours, even for the $30 cheapies. I bought an 8 cell pack for $50 and get close to 6 hours on my Magicshine.

cyccommute 

Because of Colorado's wacky weather this year, I've had ample opportunity to test the waterproofness of the $30 cheapies. They've stood up to several drenchings without issue. The cells are encased in shrink wrap and that is enough to stand up to water of almost biblical proportions in my experience.

Let me preface the next bit by saying that I have no problem spending money on boutique components for my bike. My bikes usually drip from the drool of the paid mechanics at my local coop when they look at the components. That said, it is hard to find a reason to spend more money on lights than the $30 cheapies off Fleabay. The damned things are as bright as the more expensive lights, have similar run times, are very well made, and are rugged as all get out. Paying 5 to 10 times as much really doesn't get you anything more. And, at $30 a pop, you can afford to buy 1 to 10 of them depending on your needs without breaking the bank. And when next year's model with a better emitter comes out, you don't feel too bad about leaving the old stuff behind.

Hiro11

You don't need to go to Ebay. Cree XML "clone" lights can be found all day on Amazon for less than $25 complete with head mount, battery and charger. These things are probably 700 lumens. They're also Prime eligible. Replacement 4X18650 batteries are a whopping $12 (also Prime eligible) and last almost three hours on high. Bigger batteries are around $20. All of this stuff may or may not be reliable after a year or two, but at this price who cares?

I seriously don't understand how they can possibly sell this package for that price and make any money. I almost feel bad about it. Regardless, look no further.

steve66

Just throwing my 2 cents in here. I've had two of the Magicshine 808 lights for about 3 years now and they are fantastic. They are crazy bright at the high setting and reasonable at the medium or even low setting depending on your activity. I easily get between 2 and 3 hours at the highest setting, and the whole setup is pretty lightweight. I typically use them when I mountain bike at night with one on the bars and one on the helmet (I have one of the 2200mAh batteries that I strap the battery to my helmet). When using two lights like this, I will usually run them both at the medium setting and get plenty of light to bomb around technical singletrack. I have also used them when road riding and hiking. A light, battery, charger, and bar attachment strap is about $80. You could get two lights with batteries, chargers, and the helmet mount for under $200. If you wanted to get the lighter battery and mount it to your helmet, that would run you an additional $23.

ItsJustMe

I have a $30 ebay cheapie, and the battery died after the first time it got in the rain. I peeled back the plastic and it had clearly gotten wet and there was corrosion all over. I cleaned it up and it started working again, so I designed and printed this pack which is keeping it dry now:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:60776

I think just wrapping a plastic bag around the pack and setting it up so that the opening of the bag is facing down and the wire coming out there would be just fine too. But if you have a 3d printer you just want to print stuff all the time.

10 Wheels

8 Cell 18650 Pack

https://www.lightmalls.com/waterproof...with-magic-bag

DXchulo

Any opinions on the Light & Motion Seca 1400? Looks like a good price at BTD: https://www.biketiresdirect.com/produ...400-race-light


EDIT: The price went back up, so it's not such a great price anymore.

Yo Spiff

I've settled on the Cygolite Pace/Expilion models. (Pace is the version they offer through Performance/Nashbar, but is pretty much the same thing). I originally bought a 200 lumen model and upgraded later on to the 400. The 400 lights up a dark trail nicely. Run time for me is usually 2-2 1/2 hours if I run it at 300 and just bump it to the full 400 as needed. I carry a spare battery with me, which I have only needed once in a great while. They can often be found on sale for under $100 and buying an extra battery will only add $30 to the cost. They also offer a very nice helmet mount for this series.

I just had a look at Performance, and they have the Pace 750 on sale now for $110, plus an addtional 20% discount, which brings it down to the same $89 I paid for my 400 lumen model. https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...400158__400158

fietsbob

Like the 2nd post.. you run up against the limited capacity of Batteries ,

like a bucket full of water with a hole in the bottom.

more watts = a bigger hole.. bucket is limited in size.. so run time shortens.

hub, wont slip in the rain, or bottle dynamo, that will, offers the electricity to be made as you need it .


one watt LED light may not be the Best , but an example the Planet Bike (US brand) imports
a version with a 2 AA battery, and also makes the same light
with a wire to connect it to the front hub dynamo with a plug into the hub ,
and a plug inline , to remove the light, and put it in your pocket when you lock up the bike..

[I, FWIW, just got a Shimano-Brompton Dynamo wheel for $100,
& B&M LED head and taillights to run off it, for another $ 80.

or thereabouts .

still have the battery light clip on the handlebars, that is a tight spot superflash, and a blinkie se , up higher .. on the bike.

so both come in at under the $300 ..

DXchulo

Thanks for the link. I'm going to add that light to the list of candidates.

dougmc

Nice, but it's pretty easy to do with a sandwich bag and some tape too. Do it right, and your battery won't get wet even if fully submerged for a few seconds.

ItsJustMe

If in the market for a new battery anyway, I'd just as soon go with something like that. It's a very good price for an 8 cell pack anyway.

gsa103

I've got a L&M Taz 800. Very bright light, good flood beam pattern. Run time at full power is 2 hrs though.

In general, most battery lights are 2-3 hrs run time. Lights that use external batteries can get much longer run time.

As for the dyno lights, the run time is infinite, but the lights <600 lumens so there's a lot less light. A Seca 1400 run at half-power would be brighter and provide closer to the 4 hrs of run time. Dyno lights are best when you want 6+ hrs between chargings.

Given your situation, I would go with a light with an external pack and then get a second battery pack. The Cygolite 750 linked above is just over an hour at full power.

If at all possible, find independent tests of lights. A fair number of manufacturers quote the maximum lumens from the LED, then run the LED at reduced power, or don't account for any optics losses. The Magicshines are the worst offender since they usually put out about half the claimed lumens.

DXchulo

MTBR has the best one I've seen so far: https://reviews.mtbr.com/2013-bike-lights-shootout/2

I just wish they put more emphasis on battery life. The photos they have are very helpful.

Looigi

More beam shots for reference (may be a bit dated):

https://www.modernbike.com/light-comp...singleshotplus
https://www.performancebike.com/bikes...ghtBuyersGuide

davidad

I don't have one, but this looks good. Uses 18650 batteries or 123 primaries. https://www.amazon.com/Fenix-BT20-Bik...nix+bike+light

CrankyFranky

Will the standard MS chager charge 'em? I love my 2 MS 808s and tail blinkys.

10 Wheels

It should work with it Ok.