Hi, guys.
I bought Philips Saferide 80 Gen2 from Germany internet shop. My parcel now traveling to me, and I woundered, is there Li-ion batteries or Ni-Mh? And I wrote to the Philips customer service. There is his answer:

"
Thank you for contacting Philips.


The SafeRide 80 has Li-ion batteries.
Please contact your dealer when your unit has different batteries.


Kind Regards


Alexander
Philips Lighting
"

Also on their website they mention
"Power
• Battery: 4 AA Li-ion batteries"


I'll check this when I get my parcel

If you go back and read all my posts and the ensuing entertaining ones from one particular poster who kept saying over and over and over that those batteries were not Li-Ion and even took pics of the bats to prove, problem is, like you discovered and I knew from owning the light is that they are Li-Ion bats.

And unlike what the same poster said, that light does run for 2 hours on high, I've done it to see if it would and it does and did it just on rides. What's really cool about that light is that after running on high for 2 hours it doesn't just turn off instead it turns to the second setting-low, and will run on low for another 2 hours, I know this because I've done it.

Word of advice, which comes from Philips, when you get your light do not turn it on and charge it for 24 hours REGARDLESS when the charging light says it's charged which will be about 2 hours or so after plugging it in. Then when you use it completely drain the light without recharging it till the light is dead, then recharge fully which at that point you can follow the charge ready lights. Do that cycle 3 times, after that you can freely charge and recharge anytime you want regardless if the light is fully discharged or not.

I really like this light, it has a glowing ring which gives it good side visibility, if the top part of the ring glowing annoys you you can cut a piece of black electrical tape and cover the top part of the ring, but I haven't found that necessary. I believe once you use you'll like it too, what bizarre is that Philips stopped making the light, I don't get that. I've seen this before in the marketplace, someone makes something really good and they stop making it and make something else not as good.

The Phillips Saferide (all versions) uses nimh AA batteries. You cannot put rechargeable lith-ion batteries into AA lights, the voltage is different.

Here's the page of the guy who write all about the light - and sells the v2 version from Europe -
http://swhs.home.xs4all.nl/fiets/tes.../index_en.html

You can look at the bottom of the page under this heading:
New: Experiences with version 2 with the mount with ballhead and warmer LED light colour and again changed electronics

Specifically this part:
It seems Philips took almost all comments from me and others to heart (except using LiIon batteries, and it still can't be used while charging), and the result is fantastic. It's way better than any other bike headlamp... (for non-MTB use)

rekmeyata is either just trolling the thread or very very confused.

I ordered one of them myself from the European distributor, I'll what they say about battery life when it gets here.

This was the last comment I saw on the runtimes of the v2 version -

I'm confused? I guess so, as well as Vnor who posted above me and I commented on, as well as Philips who told Vnor they were Li-Ion, and the box my light came in said Li-Ion, and the batteries say Li-Ion, and the service person I spoke to when I had to have the light warrantied for a bad charger or cell said they were Li-Ion . So I guess all of that is confused, or maybe we're all being lied too? Maybe that's why they stopped making the light?

Another poster went as far as posting a pic of the batteries, and they clearly say nimh.

Do you have a pic of your batteries where they say lith-ion on them?

If you're not trolling, the only thing I can think of is that Philllips makes a similar looking light that apparently does use lith-ion, but the battery pack is seperate called the SafeRide -
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-Acti.../dp/B009LHFOEU

While it looks similar, it apparently does not have a cutoff and is a fairly different light.

If you don't have a pic of your batteries, do you have a pic of your light?

It sounds like the marketing department of Phillips got confused, put the wrong thing on the product page, and thus the Phillips response is most likely them looking at their own product page and repeating incorrect information.

If the guy from the link I posted above - who's written numerous reviews and sells the Saferide himself - hasn't heard of a lith-ion version, I would think it's because there is no such version. I just ordered a Saferide from him, I guess I'll see for myself in a week or two, but I haven't seen a version with lith-ion.

People just get confused - in an earlier thread someone kept insisting the Ixon IQ Premium used lith-ion batteries, but kept posting links to the Ixon Core light - a very different light from the same company.

see: SRFB80BLX1 Philips Saferide
This is the exact light I bought and probably the same one that Vnor bought who is also a troll.

I have not ever seen information about Li-Ion unless in this thread, Philips website and their customer service.
I mostly think there will be Ni-Mh in the package. And Philips was wrong.
Also there is another detail - on the shop's website they wrote "Scope of delivery: Incl. 4 2600mAh rechargable batteries"
And, as I know there are no AA Li-Ion bats with 2600mAh capacity.

But I have a little hope, and it will be miracle and I will get SafeRide with Li-Ion.

I think if Rekmeyata wants to prove, he might want to load a foto with his light. It will be very helpful.
May be there was only one little batch with Li-Ion Saferide, and that is why no one knows about it.

Maybe they pack it with Li-ion AAs to boost the power and specs.

Do you mean non-rechargeable AA? If so, I think it is not Li-Ion, but it is lithium (Li), there are some differences between them:
1. Li bat is single-use and non-rechargeable, Li-Ion bat is rechargeable
2. Li has 1.5V voltage and Li-Ion has 3.7V voltage
And you can not use Li-ion bats instead of Li bats, in this case you ruin your device

Yes, non rechargeable lithium AA batteries are 1.7V so you might see more lumens and/or runtime.

Rechargeable AA sized lithium ion batteries are 14500 cells, 3.7V. I wouldn't put these in the light, they will let the smoke out. :eek:

I had the camera out recently so heres a pic of my dynamo-hub powered Philips Lumiring tail-light playing nice with my rear rack:

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1b2f169e.jpg

http://i1198.photobucket.com/albums/...ps15cc1331.jpg

I gave you guys all the info I have including factory docs, I can't say anything more than that, if the information from Philips is false I wouldn't know that because that's where I get my info.

I'm not a troll, just giving info as provided to me, and then I shared the factory instructions to you, I have a primitive computer so I can't post pics, thats why I thought the factory docs would serve that purpose...obviously not. If you think I'm lying for some unknown reason which wouldn't benefit me in anyway to lie about it, then you would have to take everything I've ever said on this forum to be a lie as well. Let me know which way you want it to be, and depending on what direction you think I face then I'll decide what to do next.

If I owned a light, I would not be on the internet making strongly worded claims about the type of battery that are the opposite of what everyone else says without opening up the light and checking for myself.

It's fairly easy to take a pic and send it nowadays - if you have a cell phone with a camera, take the picture, create a picture message, and put your email address as the destination and it will email it to you.

I have no interest in continuing a further pointless back and forth. Who knows why trolls get an emotional kick out of doing what they do. Your claims of getting 2 hours on high then also 2 hours on low, plus the sensationalism of your posts, sound like trolling to me. I'll see for myself when my v2 version of the light arrives.

Philips activeride uses lithium ion while the Saferide version used Ni-Mh batteries.

So, you are both wrong. :)

Time to close this one.