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volosong 08-13-15 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by JohnJ80 (Post 18069321)
While it's not what the 300R is, I did just pick up a Cyrgolite Micro Hot Shot that I find really impressive.

Thanks for the tip. I have an REI rebate coupon that I've been hanging onto because there's nothing there I need. I'll pick up a Cyrgolite next time I'm there and keep it as an emergency backup.

noglider 08-13-15 09:03 PM

That micro hotshot looks like it only attaches to a seatpost. The regular hotshot has a clip so you can hook it to your belt or something similar, and it comes with a bracket, too. I attach mine to a loop on my saddle-attached tool bag.

volosong 08-14-15 06:23 PM

Not bad! Not bad at all. I ordered the Quad Red on Wednesday, and here it is Friday sitting in my mailbox. That's pretty good going from the east coast to a remote outpost far out in the Californian desert.

Going through the modes, I am happy that it contains the mode I like using. Always on at a low power setting with a series of maybe four or five bright flashes, then a pause. In my opinion, that is a more 'attention grabbing' mode than just a solid light, whatever the power, or a constant flashing, which is monotonous.

The unit is much smaller than my old 300R, and is more 'elegant'. Gone are the sharp edges and funky shape of the heat sink. Now, it is a rounded-off-corner rectangular shape. The cover that goes over the USB charging port is a whole lot better than the one on the 300R. The one on the 300R had a tendency to pop off all the time. This one is more secure. Main difference here is that it is a mini-USB port, not the older standard one. No problem, as they include a cable. I did not opt for the charger because I have a bunch already and any USB/AC charger will work. Probably even a auto cigarette lighter USB charger would work also, but would take a lot longer to come up to full charge.

I am also satisfied that the brightness of the Quad Red is at least as bright as the 300R. I was concerned about that. I needn't have worried. The accessory pack was a little off. For some reason, there is an extra, loose foot in the same bubble pack with the light and one of the clamps were missing. I'll let them know about it, but don't really need it. I have all my clamps and foots from my 300R as well as an additional pack I purchased the other year because I needed more clamps of certain sizes.

They do supply some lock nuts, but none of the bolts are long enough. I'm off to the hardware store to hunt up some 10mm bolts that are a tad longer so that I can secure them with the lock nuts. I'm still bummed about losing my 300R. Whoever finds it might wonder what it is for and how could they use it. They will see that it has a USB charging port, but they won't have any clamps. Nowhere on the 300R does it say what it is, and even most of the casual cycling community couldn't be able to identify it. The Quad Red has stamped in white letters on each side "dinottelighting.com". If I ever lose this one, at least the finder can find out what it is and order an accessory kit to mount it on their own bike.

I can't remember if they said this in the 300R instructions, but they warn several times to NOT mount a clamp without using one of the rubber inserts that are supplied. Can't understand why. I never found the rubber strips to be of a size where it would fit around the seatpost and the clamp over it. I've always used a turn from an old, cut up inner tube. Mostly because I don't want to scratch my seatposts. They have a nice carbon wrap around them, (but I have no idea if they are carbon fiber or not. They just look cool.)

Side lighting is worlds ahead of the 300R. The 300R doesn't have any side lighting. The Quad Red addresses this pretty well. It's on the charger now so that I can ride tomorrow. I won't ride without a strobe taillight, neither day or night. I believe in them that much! It has made a world of difference between when I rode without a taillight and with one.

chiggy 08-31-15 11:11 AM

Rather than making a new thread I figured i'd hijack this one. I'm trying to decide on a new light to replace my superflash. I have about decided that a dinotte is what I need but don't know which one.

I live in a very rural area not used to cyclists and ride small roads with 60+ mph speed limits. They are my only option. There might only be 5 to 10 cars in an hour, but they can be going pretty fast. I ride alone, never in urban areas, and never after dark (sometimes at dusk). So blinding someone with a "too bright" of light isn't so much of a concern. External batteries and such aren't a big deal either. Price IS a concern however. If the Quad Red is good enough I don't want to spend an extra $30 or $60 on a 400r or Daytime Red.

I'm also probably going to get an amber front light. With so little traffic people tend to roll stop signs while just glancing each way for cars. I would assume I could go with something less bright here since any car that needs to see me will be much closer.

Thoughts?

KenshiBiker 08-31-15 01:04 PM

I use my Quad Red day and night. I'm very pleased with it - no regrets that I didn't get a Daytime Red.

PaulRivers 08-31-15 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by volosong (Post 18076346)
Going through the modes, I am happy that it contains the mode I like using. Always on at a low power setting with a series of maybe four or five bright flashes, then a pause. In my opinion, that is a more 'attention grabbing' mode than just a solid light, whatever the power, or a constant flashing, which is monotonous.

Lol, see, opinions differ. I find a constant flashing to be perfect, it triggers the "motion" response so I noticed it, but is not obnoxious beyond that.

I don't like the patterns with a gap. They always make a little part of my brain feel like "oooh, it stopped blinking, better aim the car towards that weird light and find out what happened!". I mean I never do, but the urge has crossed my mind more than once.

10 Wheels 08-31-15 02:53 PM

The Five Strobe Pause is the most effective attention getting mode.

I get stopped every week by drivers that want to know what it is.

Athens80 08-31-15 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by chiggy (Post 18125551)
...I'm also probably going to get an amber front light. With so little traffic people tend to roll stop signs while just glancing each way for cars. I would assume I could go with something less bright here since any car that needs to see me will be much closer.

Thoughts?

I'm happy with the Dinotte 300R day and night as my main tail light. I'd expect that the Quad Red would be even better in that role.

On the front light, I'm using a Cygolite Dash 320 or Metro 550 as my one daytime light (yeah, I don't need both but I got 'em). The "DayLightning" mode is good in the daytime. The 550 is mid-sized and the 320 is smaller, and go on the handlebars easily and easilier. Riding in the dark they can move to secondary bar light and/or helmet light.

volosong 09-07-15 09:03 AM

On the front, I use a NiteRider Limina 600, in strobe mode, of course. The Limina 600 has been 'updated' twice since I got it. I think they are up to 750 now. They are self-contained units that are USB rechargeable. I charge mine after every ride, but I'm pretty sure they have enough power to last for a century ride. Metric centuries for sure.

One incident really sold me on the front strobe. Out on the country roads here in the desert, an oncoming car turned on his left-turn signal and came to a stop, waiting until I passed. The 'funny' thing is that he was probably 200-300 yards away from me when he stopped. There was more than enough time for him to safely turn in front of me without causing me to break cadence; with more than enough time to spare.

As I've mentioned, unless off-road or on a dedicated bike path, I will never ride without strobes.

chiggy 09-14-15 09:16 AM

I just got my Quad Red in the mail. It's bright, and as my wife says, "It better be for $200!" Not enough time to really test it out yet, just sat it out about 30m away, 1pm, overcast sky, and it was plenty intense at that distance. 10x as noticeable as my PB superfalsh. I'd like to see how it fares in full sun at much further distances. I've come to the conclusion that video reviews are poor substitutes for what the human eye sees and notices.

Yesterday (without the light) on my rural no-shoulder road a car blew past going 70mph and barely moved over. There was no oncoming traffic and 1 mile of flat straight road ahead, no reason not to give me some space. He put this left wheel on the center stripe. I was riding the white line. That 5 feet between us felt like 5 inches. Usually I hear or see them coming and keep an eye on em in my mirror. This one snuck up on me though, and it only takes one doesn't it. So the true test, and the only one that matters, will be if cars behave differently. Visibility at 1 mile won't mean much if people don't notice and take action.

If I remember I'll come back and give an update after i've used it a while, right now I'm hopeful.

gios 09-27-15 05:57 PM

Is there a benefit in getting their charger, or can I use, say my Garmin 500 charger with the USB cord to the DQuad?

I don't see a video review on the Quad yet. The manual on the sales site says that when the blue light is steady you are in the max steady or max strobe mode, and when the blue light blinks you are not in the max mode. Where is this blue light?

Grillparzer 09-28-15 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by gios (Post 18198917)
Is there a benefit in getting their charger, or can I use, say my Garmin 500 charger with the USB cord to the DQuad?

I don't see a video review on the Quad yet. The manual on the sales site says that when the blue light is steady you are in the max steady or max strobe mode, and when the blue light blinks you are not in the max mode. Where is this blue light?

Any USB charger will work, I've been using my phone's. There isn't a blue light on the Quad Red, it faintly flashes red when charging and a solid green when charged. Modes are determined by flash pattern of the light itself. Their XML-3 headlight has a small blue light on the back that indicates modes.


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