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Front Light Recommendations
Experienced cyclist here, but never rode in the dark before. And I do not know beans about riding lights, though I have quite a few rear blinking lights. I am thinking I'll like to start doing two/three hour rides after dark. Could you recommend a reliable $30-$50 front light that is reliable and quite bright to cover me tooling at 25MPH and can last the duration of my rides? A good solid mount is also cool. And if the price is right, I am not opposed to getting two and mounting one on the helmet too.
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Cygolite Metro 360 USB
At $50 the Cygolite Metro 360 USB Bicycle Headlight is an attractive option. 4.6-star rated.
Upgraded for 2014, the Metro 360 features 6 modes, new custom TIR optics and increased output that lights up the demanding roads with its powerful 360 lumen 4 watt LED. Recharge conveniently through a USB port to save you the cost of replacing batteries ride after ride. New 24/7 Safety Technology features night and day specific modes for added safety: 2-in-1 Steady Pulse illumination alerts motorists with flashes while constantly lighting your path while new DayLightning mode boosts 500 lumens of lightning like flashes to demand motorist's attention during the day. Compact, rechargeable and super bright, the Metro 360 is geared for any commute. Metro 400 Product Description
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+1 for the Metro -- love mine. -10 billion for anything made by Knog -- I've had no luck with them.
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I have a sackful of these things: Amazon.com : CREE XML XM-L T6 LED Bike Bicycle Light HeadLight HeadLamp 1200LM Red : Cycling Electronics Accessories : Sports & Outdoors (NB: not that precise seller but as far as I can tell they're all probably coming from the same place anyway)
They're basically magicshine clones. I have the actual magic shine as well, which was more like $80 and it's slightly nicer. The battery pack mounts on the head tube under the stem, or under the top tube right up against the head tube. They're very bright but I'm pretty sure the lumen rating is some sort of theoretical fairy-dust maximum. I go on 2.5 hour rides during the week and have yet to run out of power (I usually run it on high on streets, and medium if I'm on a path like SART) |
Originally Posted by TrojanHorse
(Post 17283174)
I have a sackful of these things: Amazon.com : CREE XML XM-L T6 LED Bike Bicycle Light HeadLight HeadLamp 1200LM Red : Cycling Electronics Accessories : Sports & Outdoors (NB: not that precise seller but as far as I can tell they're all probably coming from the same place anyway)
They're basically magicshine clones. I have the actual magic shine as well, which was more like $80 and it's slightly nicer. The battery pack mounts on the head tube under the stem, or under the top tube right up against the head tube. They're very bright but I'm pretty sure the lumen rating is some sort of theoretical fairy-dust maximum. I go on 2.5 hour rides during the week and have yet to run out of power (I usually run it on high on streets, and medium if I'm on a path like SART) |
Originally Posted by Jed19
(Post 17283651)
Am I reading that price right? $21.80 with Amazon Prime. Sounds too good to be true, especially with the few reviews I read, which were positively effusive.
The cygolite models listed above look like they might be more secure on the handlebars, and you can just whip 'em off for recharging, so that might be more convenient. The magic shine version (and clone) attach with a big rubber band thing, so they can wander around on your bars a bit in terms of where they're pointing. $20 though... hard to go wrong. |
When you order, be sure to pick up a defuser lens. They give the wider beam with a top cutoff.
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The cheap magicshine-like lights are certainly worth considering. They certainly produce more light. The downsides are that they have a separate battery pack so there are two pieces to mount, and some buyers report quality issues. To get the most lumens per dollar, you have to look at those lights.
I've got an earlier MagicShine 808 and was pleased with the value. Since then, the self-contained lights have improved the lumens per dollar ratio. I now have a bias for one-piece lights. If you can't get enough lumens for your price from a self-contained bike-specific option, the magicshine-like lights would be one of my top two options. The other would be an 18650-battery flashlight and handlebar mount. The runtime of a one-cell flashlight is shorter than the magicshine clones with multi-cell battery packs, but you do have the option of carrying more batteries. And the flashlight would be one-piece on the bike, with no cable running to a separate battery pack. It's a matter of preference and needs for your situation. |
What kinds of local stores sell lights like those? I don't want to order from a website and wait a month for it to cross the Pacific. Radio Shack? Hardware stores? Bike stores sell lights but they aren't the "cree" ones I keep reading about here, and they cost big bucks. Has anyone found similar lights in brick and mortar stores in the USA?
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I have two of the lights TrojanHorse posted. They're the real deal. One I've had for two years now and I use them mostly for mountain biking at night.
The only reason I have two is because I lost the charger from the first one and just ordered a complete set for $19 a few months back. I broke the second charger and ordered another for $8. Amazon Prime gets them to you in 2 days. |
You will need 2 to 4 18650 batteries and a charger. This is a good light. Fenix BT20 750 Lumen Bike light - Uses 4 x CR123 or 2 x 18650 batteries
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I'm really sold on the Light & Motion Urban series but it might be more than you want to spend. They are incredibly light weight, powerful and have good run times. Easy to install and remove as well as recharge. If do some searches, you can find them at substantial discounts.
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Originally Posted by Squeeze
(Post 17285421)
What kinds of local stores sell lights like those? I don't want to order from a website and wait a month for it to cross the Pacific. Radio Shack? Hardware stores? Bike stores sell lights but they aren't the "cree" ones I keep reading about here, and they cost big bucks. Has anyone found similar lights in brick and mortar stores in the USA?
that are not too long...There are hundreds of Amazon lights. http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=amb_link...f_rd_i=3403201 |
Originally Posted by davidad
(Post 17286114)
You will need 2 to 4 18650 batteries and a charger. This is a good light. Fenix BT20 750 Lumen Bike light - Uses 4 x CR123 or 2 x 18650 batteries
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I echo TrojanHorse's words. I just started night time MTB riding with some friends. They gave me this light to ride (l#1 link below) along with the replacement (longer run time I'm assuming) battery (link #2 ). These guys swear by these things. I have a Light & Motion, and figured I'd save for back up when the battery pack burned down. Well, 2 1/2 hours later I still had TONS of light and it was still shining bright. I just placed and order for each a few days ago.
1. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00F372RGK/...332200_TE_item 2. Robot Check |
Originally Posted by Jed19
(Post 17282694)
Experienced cyclist here, but never rode in the dark before. And I do not know beans about riding lights, though I have quite a few rear blinking lights. I am thinking I'll like to start doing two/three hour rides after dark. Could you recommend a reliable $30-$50 front light that is reliable and quite bright to cover me tooling at 25MPH and can last the duration of my rides? A good solid mount is also cool. And if the price is right, I am not opposed to getting two and mounting one on the helmet too.
Thanks. For 25 mph downhills, you'll need at least 500 lumens, preferably 800 or more. And those are real lumens from bike light reviews. The cheap lights often exaggerate their lumens, and might be half or less than advertised. The really cheap lights can have battery problems, with early failures. If I was on a budget and needed bright lights, I'd probably try riding with two of the "$20" lights, or at least one of them and also a smaller self-contained rechargeable light. You'll have problems finding any light that has a big enough battery to go full blast for 2 or 3 hours, especially when it gets below 50F. I have to manage my 1100 lumen Dinotte by switching to half or quarter power, and only running at full power when it's really needed. |
My lights are out of your price range, but the insight might be helpful. I have a 500 lumen Cygolite on one bike, and an 800 lumen Cygolite on the other. I honestly can't tell the difference between the lights. The 500 lumen was $65 and the 800 lumen was $109. Buy the 500 lumen and you'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by Athens80
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The cheap magicshine-like lights are certainly worth considering. They certainly produce more light. The downsides are that they have a separate battery pack so there are two pieces to mount...
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=418179 for the last year with a 3400mah Panasonic 18650 (just like the cells used in the Tesla S), which gives over three and a quarter hours of full brightness. It takes maybe 30 seconds to swap the battery, you know, if you're doing a 300km brevet or something. I've seen 'em for under ten bucks on ebay (sans battery, but the mount is included). You'll need an 18650 charger, too. |
I bought one of these for $13.50, and free shipping. It's a beast, and the battery lasts a very long time. I also bought one of those beam shaping lenses for $5, and it throws a really bright, well shaped beam...... Hard to beat for a total less than $20 ... I might buy another just for the battery.
2000LM CREE XM L2 T6 LED USB Headlamp Headlight Bicycle Bike Front Light Torch | eBay I thought I bought mine on Amazon, but can't find it..... aha, here it is http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...A3CHKVEURCLOPX but a few months ago it was $13 and free shipping - might pay to wait. Aha, because I bought the old style, 2 mode plus strobe. and it came out of China (shipped) |
+1 for a Magicshine clone. My wife and I have been using them for a couple months (although our night riding is over for the season) and they work great. Only have gone about 1.5 hours on high so far though.
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Bush ‡ Muller IQ 2 reflector design is good, and used in multiple products of theirs, and the Schmidt eDelux headlight as well , now in version 2.
sorry may not be as cheap as you wish.. then compromises happen.. :innocent: |
On my smaller frame bike, I don't want cables and battery packs and prefer a single 18650 flashlght. XinTD C8 V5 XM-L2 U2 1A 18650 Flashlight on the bars, Panasonic NCR18650B Protected 3400mAh a pair of protected Panasonic 18650B batteries (high drain) and Universal Motorcycle Cigarette Lighter Flashlight Holder - Black - Free Shipping - DealExtreme holder and you are all set. Add a Shiningbeam S-mini to the helmet and you are all set with about 1300 lumens of brightness. Total cost about $100. I've been really happy with this setup for commuting in the dark at 20 mph. The recently purchased the XinTD and it is noticeably better than the previous C8 flashlight I had.
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Originally Posted by jwarner
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+1 for the Metro -- love mine. -10 billion for anything made by Knog -- I've had no luck with them.
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Originally Posted by DeadGrandpa
(Post 17363051)
I am curious. Also, I just bought a Knog 300 twin light headlight, USB rechargeable. What was bad about your Knog experience?
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I have the cree xml as well. Unfortunately, the mount is atrocious. I rigged a quick fix this way:
http://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycli...l#post17363299 I have yet to take the bike out for a test ride with the shimmed up mount, but it's definitely more secure than before. I know this light is sold with a more secure mount on ebay, but the light is apparently selling so well with the goofy o-ring mount, the manuf. and resellers have little incentive to offer a better option. |
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