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Jarrett2 12-01-14 01:24 PM

Rear Facing Camera - Garmin VIRB?
 
Anyone have a rear facing Garmin Virb?

What mount did you use?

I want to get one because of the sync features with my Edge 1000, especially the sync'ed auto pause.

Team Sarcasm 12-01-14 09:56 PM

The basic virb is 104 on amazon right now. The virb elite is still like 250.

I have the virb elite and the extra features are not quite worth the price tag when you can get the SAME camera specs for 150$ less, and if you are spending 250 on a camera I would go with the fly6 camera.

And a rear facing camera that stops recording when you are stopped...it would be very sad if someone rear ended you at a stop sign or stop light and you have your camera set to be off. Or if you have an accident and the camera only catches the accident and none of the post accident conversation/events because your bike stopped moving. Just saying :)

Also check out the rideye.

As far as seat post or saddle mounts....I know k-edge makes a saddle rail mount, personally I think it is kinda ugly. Any gopro seat post mount will work as well.

Jarrett2 12-03-14 08:30 AM

Cool, thanks.

chaadster 12-03-14 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Team Sarcasm (Post 17355140)

And a rear facing camera that stops recording when you are stopped...it would be very sad if someone rear ended you at a stop sign or stop light and you have your camera set to be off. Or if you have an accident and the camera only catches the accident and none of the post accident conversation/events because your bike stopped moving. Just saying :)

True, but don't forget there are other reasons someone may run a rear mount camera other than to sit around waiting for an event which is extremely unlikely to ever happen.

I've seen some awfully cool ride and race videos with both front and rear cam views; having sync'd auto-pause would be great for matching up files. Same if you wanted to make a trainer video of an actual ride with time appropriate power targets.

Gus90 12-03-14 01:34 PM

I picked up that Virb at around $100 on Amazon as well, too good to pass up. Don't think the additional features on the elite are worth it at all. I'm just waiting on my dual mount from k-edge to put it on my bike. As for a rear facing mount, k-edge makes one that attaches to your seat rails that seems like it would be a great option. If you ride with a saddle bag, you'd have to ditch it though. I haven't seen anything that mounts to your seat post, that would be a great solution depending on the shape of your post.

Team Sarcasm 12-03-14 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by chaadster (Post 17358685)
True, but don't forget there are other reasons someone may run a rear mount camera other than to sit around waiting for an event which is extremely unlikely to ever happen.

I've seen some awfully cool ride and race videos with both front and rear cam views; having sync'd auto-pause would be great for matching up files. Same if you wanted to make a trainer video of an actual ride with time appropriate power targets.

I think it would be awesome to have a rear camera snap pictures every 3 seconds during a marathon or race or have it recording slow motion or make a training vid or something. The point of a camera is to record, both the good and the bad. Yes accidents are the big IF, but IF someone rear ends you while you're stopped and takes off/claims it was not their fault, you will feel VERY foolish because it is far too easy to cover that base since you are already 90% of the way there.

And making videos takes a long time as it is. Saving 20-30 minutes is not worth it, to me at least. But that is all I am going to beat this dead horse.




Originally Posted by Gus90 (Post 17359424)
I picked up that Virb at around $100 on Amazon as well, too good to pass up. Don't think the additional features on the elite are worth it at all. I'm just waiting on my dual mount from k-edge to put it on my bike. As for a rear facing mount, k-edge makes one that attaches to your seat rails that seems like it would be a great option. If you ride with a saddle bag, you'd have to ditch it though. I haven't seen anything that mounts to your seat post, that would be a great solution depending on the shape of your post.

Want to send me a PM on how you like the combo mount? I decided on the barfly mount. It works great flipped up like they have it advertised :p but flipped upside down it gets tangled in the cables. It is not very bad, just enough to slightly push the camera up at the gopro adapter joint. I have not ridden with it but I do think a few bumps may move the camera away from where you actually want it.

After looking at the pictures of the combo mount I think the mount, more or less, places the virb in the same spot and you may be hitting your cables if you have external routing on your handlebars (I have 5700 w/normal external routing bars)

Gus90 12-03-14 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by Team Sarcasm (Post 17359665)
I think it would be awesome to have a rear camera snap pictures every 3 seconds during a marathon or race or have it recording slow motion or make a training vid or something. The point of a camera is to record, both the good and the bad. Yes accidents are the big IF, but IF someone rear ends you while you're stopped and takes off/claims it was not their fault, you will feel VERY foolish because it is far too easy to cover that base since you are already 90% of the way there.

And making videos takes a long time as it is. Saving 20-30 minutes is not worth it, to me at least. But that is all I am going to beat this dead horse.





Want to send me a PM on how you like the combo mount? I decided on the barfly mount. It works great flipped up like they have it advertised :p but flipped upside down it gets tangled in the cables. It is not very bad, just enough to slightly push the camera up at the gopro adapter joint. I have not ridden with it but I do think a few bumps may move the camera away from where you actually want it.

After looking at the pictures of the combo mount I think the mount, more or less, places the virb in the same spot and you may be hitting your cables if you have external routing on your handlebars (I have 5700 w/normal external routing bars)

I don't have the mount yet, should be delivered Friday. My cables are routed under the bar tape...

http://i.imgur.com/avvOEXs.jpg

I think I'm also going to get a new mount for my road bike and do the same, the dual mount should be almost identical to this earlier model K-edge which I wish had the ability to simply mount the camera attachments to that you can by from K-edge for 2nd generation mounts, the original models didn't have a plastic insert which is what the mount screws into....

http://i.imgur.com/OLjZw6n.jpg

Gus90 12-03-14 08:30 PM

regarding the video stopping to record when you stop, is that only if you have it linked to your Garmin computer via the remote feature? Couldn't you just mount the Virb, toggle the record switch and it would continue recording until you toggled it off? I haven't messed around with this too much since getting it the other day but I'm not so sure it would stop recording when you come to a stop.

spdntrxi 12-03-14 08:48 PM

even by using standby.. battery life is not that long on a virb (sub 3hours) For the rear I use a Fly6.. rideye ordered as part of the kickstarted campaign (been awhile). I only use the Virb (elite) when I want to record for making a video afterwords. So I will continue to use the Fly6 for the rear and Rideye for the front when it comes in...as the normal everyday setup.

Gus90 12-03-14 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by spdntrxi (Post 17360421)
even by using standby.. battery life is not that long on a virb (sub 3hours) For the rear I use a Fly6.. rideye ordered as part of the kickstarted campaign (been awhile). I only use the Virb (elite) when I want to record for making a video afterwords. So I will continue to use the Fly6 for the rear and Rideye for the front when it comes in...as the normal everyday setup.

Those are very nice options and compact as well. Thanks for pointing them out. I may get that rear light eventually.

spdntrxi 12-03-14 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by Gus90 (Post 17360518)
Those are very nice options and compact as well. Thanks for pointing them out. I may get that rear light eventually.

my fly6 is the kickstarter version... so it's a little larger then the one they sell now.. Sometimes I wish I waited. The newer fly6 has more lumens too, but @ 249 not worth upgrading.

Gus90 12-03-14 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by spdntrxi (Post 17360546)
my fly6 is the kickstarter version... so it's a little larger then the one they sell now.. Sometimes I wish I waited. The newer fly6 has more lumens too, but @ 249 not worth upgrading.

I picked up a few things from kickstarter for my bikes as well. That spurcycle bell for my hybrid and a front and rear set of the sparse spacer lights that I put on my single speed/fixed gear bike. Some great finds on there for sure.

spdntrxi 12-03-14 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by Gus90 (Post 17360604)
I picked up a few things from kickstarter for my bikes as well. That spurcycle bell for my hybrid and a front and rear set of the sparse spacer lights that I put on my single speed/fixed gear bike. Some great finds on there for sure.

nah I hate kickstarter.. fly6 is the only thing I have ... the rest I am still waiting for and other things got delayed so long...they will be nearly useless when I get them. No more KSers for me.

The reason I have a Virb is because Rideye was delayed..
Jyrobike is a nightmare and I can't get a refund.. on and on

Team Sarcasm 12-03-14 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Gus90 (Post 17360023)
I don't have the mount yet, should be delivered Friday. My cables are routed under the bar tape...

My cables go under the bartape as well and its the circled ones you may have problems with. But who knows, maybe the k-edge places the virb infront of them.

And to get back on track with this thread, this is the saddle mount from k-edge

http://i.imgur.com/MmdzNdi.jpg


Another reason I suggested the fly6/rideye is because the saddle rail mount takes away the ability to use a saddle bag. But thats only a problem if you use one.

Gus90 12-06-14 05:00 PM

I got my K-edge mount but I'm waiting on the bottom go-pro attachment that will also work with the Virb. I'm estimating the distance here but basically I think it will clear my cables for the most part. I'm thinking the XL K-Edge dual mount would be better but the reason I didn't order it is I have a Garmin 810 and I like having it as close to my bars as possible rather than what would be a bit of a large gap with the XL mount. If I thought I was going to upgrade to the 1000 anytime soon, I'd probably have gotten the XL.

My biggest concern is that the K-edge arm itself pushes down on the hydraulic brake cable. Over time, I worry that it's going to wear right through it. That could be a potential disaster.

http://i.imgur.com/d4KtXiD.jpghttp://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=421484http://i.imgur.com/RUsotSC.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/TNNTlTF.jpg

Jarrett2 12-08-14 10:26 AM

I got mine up and running last night. Very slick how you cab slave one to the other and then use the Edge 1000 as a remote control for the synchronized pair. Also, the VIRB Edit software with GPX info overlays is too cool. Can't wait to edit the first ride video together this evening with all my computer stats included.

I put my main VIRB on the front using my K-Edge XL Garmin/GoPro combo mount. I had to use the GoPro to Garmin adapter that came in the mixed accessories pack. Wish it had two of them in there so I could use my GoPro seatpost mount to mount the rear/extended VIRB; but I'll have to wait for my Garmin saeatpost kit to arrive. I hope it is as good of quality as the GoPro stuff is.

What are the optimal settings for recording video on the rides? I'd like to have high enough quality that I can read license plates, but want to use as little battery as possible.

Jarrett2 12-08-14 10:38 AM

Here's what the front mount looks like:

http://jhinds7.com/images/bike/virb.jpg

rumrunn6 12-15-14 03:09 PM

sample videos?

Jarrett2 12-24-14 12:37 PM

I ended up moving my rear mount. I bought the K-Edge saddle mount and used a couple of the adapters from the Garmin miscellaneous accessories pack to put this together. I didn't want to lose my under saddle bag, but I didn't like the vibrations and angle of having the VIRB attached to the frame. So this is my current compromise:

http://jhinds7.com/images/bike/virbmount.jpg

He is some video from when it was attached to my frame. It's during a slight decent where I decided to have some fun:


I'm hoping that moving my rear-facing VIRB to the saddle will reduce that vibration some. We'll see.

CanadianBiker32 12-26-14 04:11 PM

Regarding on your Garmin Vibe. when you order do you find the mounts very durable? I like to get one for rear facing camera? is this a good camera?
would mounting the camera under my seat, does the seat mounts come with camera?
should i get the case for the Vibe as i ride in Winter in snow? or is camera very durable? thanks

Jarrett2 12-30-14 01:02 PM

I bought this for my rear facing setup:

Amazon.com: Garmin Virb Action Camera (Discontinued by Manufacturer): GPS & Navigation

http://www.amazon.com/K-EDGE-Saddle-...9965959&sr=1-6

And parts from here:

http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Virb-Ad...9966069&sr=1-3

Not sure on the case question. It's waterproof to some level, but I'm a fair weather rider.

Gus90 12-30-14 01:10 PM

I can also confirm that the virb does not stop recording when you come to a stop (ie at an intersection). I think someone earlier suggested it does. Maybe an update occurred that fixed if it did before.

Jarrett2 12-30-14 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by Gus90 (Post 17426503)
I can also confirm that the virb does not stop recording when you come to a stop (ie at an intersection). I think someone earlier suggested it does. Maybe an update occurred that fixed if it did before.

That's correct. All it does automatically is start the first time you start a ride on the Garmin. After that, you have to start/stop it. Which can be done for both sync'ed cameras via the Edge 1000.


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