Thank you Mr. Expert

The problem with that "some research" is that you aren't hearing from people who don't have problems.

The 800 works very well (it might have had software issues at first). The problems you read about may not be common at all (nothing indicates that more than a relatively small number have those problems).

And talking about problems with "early models" isn't really helpful at all.

If the 800 needs to be "hard reset", it needs it rarely.

You don't have any experience with the 800. So, yeah.

Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate that.

I've never hard-reset my 800, and, again, it's seen about 20,000 miles over more than 4 years.

It reminds me of a story with Subaru engines burning oil like crazy...Talked to 3 different authorized Subaru service dealers, and all of them said that Subaru doesn't have any issues with that...Now we have second class-action suit against Subaru about oil consumption.
2 different models of Subaru I own 2011 Forester and 2014 Outback have this issue. Consider yourself a lucky Garmin 800 user. Your good luck doesn't mean that the rest of 800 are free of issues. Several of my buddies own one, talked to tens of more 800 users in the last few years, talked to the salesman in a few stores, and I know how to use Google. The reason I bought cheap Garmin was way better reviews/feedback than the one about 800.
And it's also hard to believe your Garmin never play possum on you. It seems that every unit - cheap or expensive one - have that possum charm from time to time.

I like your signature... "Don't believe everything you think.";)

:rolleyes:

No one is claiming that "the rest of 800 are free of issues".

Many people have no idea how to use the devices either. Your handful of stories about problems doesn't mean that the problems are common.

If even cheap units have to be reset, that isn't a reason not to get the 800. Bizarre.

I had the "200 mile" problem twice (one of them required a reset). I had to reset my device another time when I was torture testing it. Other than those few times, I haven't needed to reset it. It wouldn't be surprising that some people needed to reset their 800 once in a while (it's a computer). (And it's possible that the first units had more issues but that's irrelevant now.)

You're saying that people who haven't had any serious problems are proof that everybody has serious problems and there's some kind of conspiracy going on?

What? :lol: I'm saying that if YOU have no problems with the product, it DOESN'T mean that thousands of them on the market are problem free. Thats why I said "Consider yourself a lucky Garmin 800 user".

Is that clear enough for you?

The conspiracy talk about Subaru wasn't very clear. And you told me you have a hard time believing my 800 has never "played possum," as if I'm lying to you. You're saying a lot of things, and not very coherently.

It's been my experience that the vast majority of issues relating to Edge units, particularly the 705, 800, 810 and up, could be solved by good housekeeping practices. I'm amazed at the number of friends I see who let tens of .TCX history files crowd their Garmin and then have problems. Whereas I keep my 705 tidy in that area and have almost zero problems.

Now, you could say that shouldn't happen and I'd agree with you. But if you've got a device that does 90 percent of what you want reliably and the other 10 percent of aggravation/dysfunction could be solved largely by different behavior, I'd pick the latter approach.

But I also recognize that different people have different issues. For me, the "bug" with them has been their HRM straps are crap and I've had the basic ones, the deluxe, etc. and they all work pretty poorly even with electrode gel to help conduct heart rate in cool, dry conditions. To me, that shouldn't happen.

I have an 800, rode 5,300 miles with it last year. It isn't perfect, but it's very good. If I lost it I would buy a replacement the same day