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Dynamo Hub Rear lights
I am planning to go dynamo hub in the next few weeks. I did a scoping mission at one of the local bike shops. And I left a little confused.
They showed me a front light they just finished installing so I have no worries there. They are also super close to home and have done other work for me in the past. They mentioned you cannot get a rear light if your bike hasn't been pre-wired/designed to support the rear light. True or false? Is it possible to wire externally? Or too much hassle? Or something that requires lots of or different experience? Any insight would be appreciated! The dynamo front light will make a difference, but I really need to get both squared away to be completely happy I hate having to charge lights! |
Originally Posted by jade408
(Post 17613435)
They showed me a front light they just finished installing so I have no worries there. They are also super close to home and have done other work for me in the past. They mentioned you cannot get a rear light if your bike hasn't been pre-wired/designed to support the rear light. True or false? Is it possible to wire externally? Or too much hassle? Or something that requires lots of or different experience? Any insight would be appreciated! All that needs to be done is run wire from the headlight along the frame to the tail light, securing it with zip ties or tape. Here's some info. More on Dynamo Lights Busch & Muller Toplight Line Plus Rear Light Owner Review Schmidt/Lumotec wiring instructions |
Thanks. It sounded a little weird to me but you know how it goes.
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Many ways of rigging a rear light. The most common is to mount to rear bike rack or seatpost.
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That's just ridiculous. I think the blog post I cited shows how I wired my bike for both headlight and tail light. It takes only a few minutes. But take some tips from [MENTION=137164]southpawboston[/MENTION]. I wish I had known his techniques before I did it. I still could redo it, and maybe I will one day. He glues heat-shrink tubing to his frame and runs the wires through that. It is much neater than zip ties or wrapping the wires around the frame.
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Originally Posted by jade408
(Post 17613435)
I am planning to go dynamo hub in the next few weeks. I did a scoping mission at one of the local bike shops. And I left a little confused.
They showed me a front light they just finished installing so I have no worries there. They are also super close to home and have done other work for me in the past. They mentioned you cannot get a rear light if your bike hasn't been pre-wired/designed to support the rear light. True or false? . . . I use (and am happy with) a US-made dyno lighting system that has both a head and a tail light. You can see the tail-light install here. |
[MENTION=161941]f1xedgear[/MENTION], have you got a link to your lights?
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Originally Posted by f1xedgear
(Post 17624017)
hiya noglider
Sure. If you mean can I give a link to the the manufacturer, Light On! (located in Beaverton, OR), it is here. If you're asking to see the light set-up on my bikes, then (and I'm guessin' that you've probably already seen this thread) you can see that here. Hope this answers? |
I Use the wiring scheme of the Manufacturer , the hub powers the headlight, the headlight has a Hot+ lead and a ground- contact, that is the circuit powering the Tail light.
tape and zip tie down the 2 wire cord to the taillight , occasional spots where the heat shrink Tubing is good . Following directions, the wire to my Brompton Taillight is taped to the rear shifter cable Then passes thru the right chainstay. |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 17625014)
Wow, that's a lot of light to get out of a dynamo. Good news. If I read that thread, I had forgotten about it. Thanks.
Light On! has two LEDs. DIYers (me included) made 6 LEDs setups, 1000+ lumen is possible from dynamo power. I have two sets of them 6 LED setups. <<< This is why I don't bother with anything from B&M. |
Originally Posted by mrbubbles
(Post 17626079)
The maker of that light is just commercializing a commonly used circuitry Dynamo LED Light Systems for Bicycles (electronic circuits) with a few tweaks, and using off-the-shelf parts.
Light On! has two LEDs. DIYers (me included) made 6 LEDs setups, 1000+ lumen is possible from dynamo power. I have two sets of them 6 LED setups. <<< This is why I don't bother with anything from B&M. |
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Originally Posted by J.C. Koto
(Post 17626577)
Very interesting. Would you be willing to post (or link to it if you already did) about your lamp setup?
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=438951 Circuitry is ziptied to the brake cable housing. No supercaps for standlights. Big thick cable for low-off-high. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=438950 Trekking bike. Circuitry and supercap is inside the steerer tube. The big thick cable is the remote for low-off-high. Both lights have taillight wired in as well (with supercaps for the taillight as well). 1" tall by 2" wide. Heat sinked because it's 6 leds in a very small form factor. http://forums.mtbr.com/lights-diy-do...iy-413443.html |
thank you [MENTION=70196]mrbubbles[/MENTION]
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Originally Posted by mrbubbles
(Post 17628934)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=438951
Circuitry is ziptied to the brake cable housing. No supercaps for standlights. Big thick cable for low-off-high. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=438950 Trekking bike. Circuitry and supercap is inside the steerer tube. The big thick cable is the remote for low-off-high. Both lights have taillight wired in as well (with supercaps for the taillight as well). 1" tall by 2" wide. Heat sinked because it's 6 leds in a very small form factor. Generator-Powered LED DIY- Mtbr.com |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 17635752)
Thank you, but now I'm disappointed. It looks very crude.
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 17635752)
having more light would be nice.
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Originally Posted by mrbubbles
(Post 17635895)
Function over form, and I don't have access to machines to build me a housing.
Having more light is much nicer than my B&M. |
The lights are pretty expensive. In and of itself, that's OK, because quality costs. But at that price level, how much more would it have cost to have nice housings? Not much, I'd guess. Having shaped beams would have increased the price significantly.
It looks like these lights fill a niche. I kind of wish I had them myself, but I'm not willing to plunk down that much on them. I'm glad they serve you well. I know once you spend the money, you don't regret it, since they'll probably last pretty well. One unexpected consequence of dynamo lighting is that the lights are bolted on the bike, which generally means they are more durable. |
Originally Posted by mrbubbles
(Post 17628934)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=438951
Circuitry is ziptied to the brake cable housing. No supercaps for standlights. Big thick cable for low-off-high. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=438950 Trekking bike. Circuitry and supercap is inside the steerer tube. The big thick cable is the remote for low-off-high. Both lights have taillight wired in as well (with supercaps for the taillight as well). 1" tall by 2" wide. Heat sinked because it's 6 leds in a very small form factor. Generator-Powered LED DIY- Mtbr.com |
Originally Posted by kickstart
(Post 17636836)
Other road and trail users might have a different opinion. ;)
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Originally Posted by J.C. Koto
(Post 17639291)
Oh no you di'int :lol:
More light would be great, but if one often rides in environments where safety and courtesy precludes using it because its not a shaped beam, it becomes counter productive. |
it might be a legit concern, but we have rehashed that subject to death. Let's let it lie for a few months?
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Originally Posted by unterhausen
(Post 17640481)
it might be a legit concern, but we have rehashed that subject to death. Let's let it lie for a few months?
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50% there. My tailight did not come with the wire to connect it to the front light. So i am waiting. But i did ride home with the front light. It was so nice to not have to deal with putting it on. Can't wait to get the rear one sorted.
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Originally Posted by mrbubbles
(Post 17628934)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=438951
Circuitry is ziptied to the brake cable housing. No supercaps for standlights. Big thick cable for low-off-high. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=438950 Trekking bike. Circuitry and supercap is inside the steerer tube. The big thick cable is the remote for low-off-high. Both lights have taillight wired in as well (with supercaps for the taillight as well). 1" tall by 2" wide. Heat sinked because it's 6 leds in a very small form factor. Generator-Powered LED DIY- Mtbr.com |
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