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Old 12-26-17, 09:50 AM
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we got a few inches of snow sat so I commuted on my new to me pugsley this am. it was a struggle. the larry tires sounded like I was going over rumble strips when I was on bare concrete so i tried to stay on packed snow as much as half the time. not sure how much longer it took for the 3 miles but I have never been so happy to reach work. maybe my tire pressure is too low...

excellent workout! but besides building up endurance I wonder what I could do to make it easier.
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Originally Posted by Chris Chicago
we got a few inches of snow sat so I commuted on my new to me pugsley this am. it was a struggle. the larry tires sounded like I was going over rumble strips when I was on bare concrete so i tried to stay on packed snow as much as half the time. not sure how much longer it took for the 3 miles but I have never been so happy to reach work. maybe my tire pressure is too low...

excellent workout! but besides building up endurance I wonder what I could do to make it easier.
Interesting

What pressure did you have in them?
What is the max on the tires?
Exactly what tires are they?
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"larry tires"

https://surlybikes.com/parts/tires/larry_tire
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A firm surface is a firm surface.
WRT rolling resistance there’s no advantage to hardpack over concrete/tarmac.
A fat bike mainly becomes an advantage when the inherent greater rolling resistance of the fat bike is less than the rolling resistance of a bogged-down normal bike.

Depending on the density of your ”few inches of snow”, and how many ”a few” actually is, you might have been better off with a fairly skinny tire that could cut through the snow instead of trying to climb on top of it.
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I feel Your pain ... and friends don't let friends ride pavement on fat bikes :-)
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That's why my Pugsley only comes out when there's enough powder down. Otherwise it's purely a novelty bike.
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I think it took me a half hour to get home which is twice normal time. Average speed was 6mph

I knew that the pug would only be necessary in thickish snow but I wasn't expecting it to be such a bear on most everything else. I will inflate tires more and try again tomorrow.
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My tires have a max of 30 psi. On pavement I go max, for trails I use 15-20 psi and for off trail I use 8 psi. I have not tried snow yet, but I would say for mix of road and snow, the 15-20 would suffice depending how soft and deep the snow is.
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appreciate the advice Marcus. will give your recommendations a shot.


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My tires have a max of 30 psi. On pavement I go max, for trails I use 15-20 psi and for off trail I use 8 psi. I have not tried snow yet, but I would say for mix of road and snow, the 15-20 would suffice depending how soft and deep the snow is.
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You got 30 psi in Your Fat Bike Tires ?

Originally Posted by MarcusT
My tires have a max of 30 psi. On pavement I go max, for trails I use 15-20 psi and for off trail I use 8 psi. I have not tried snow yet, but I would say for mix of road and snow, the 15-20 would suffice depending how soft and deep the snow is.
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Sure do. 2.0 bar, if it makes you more comfortable. Once , I found a washed out trail and had to take a 25 km road home. After a full day of riding, I don't think I would have made it without maxing out the pressure
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My comute was 4.5 km. Half of it through trails. In the spring, summer and fall the commute tine would be 17 to 20 min. In winter (with the fat bike) it'd be 30 min.

Some people talk about changing the tire pressure for the road conditions but I don't see the logistics releasing air and pumping air everytime you change from pavement to dirt, to deep fresh snow to packed icy snow.

High pressure will make rolling easier but you'll be bouncing like a basket ball.

Mine is currently set at 4 psi. It's a real chore on pavement but it securely gets me through the trails.
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This is why fatbike are novelties for narrow applications.

If I had to lose a bike tomorrow, my Pugsley would be the first to go.

It's fun, but it's definitely just a fun novelty.
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Took nearly a month until a combination of overnight snow and faded memory helped me give it another go. I pumped up the tires more, esp in back and was able to shave about 7 minutes off my time. so 23 minute ride which I usually do in 15.

My expectations were low, that being said the ride was much more enjoyable. both fresh and semi packed snow were great to ride on and firmly packed was fine too. bare street or light slush was less fun. As I approached the business district and saw perfectly plowed and salted streets I was bummed but at least 2/3 of 3 mile commute was snowy and 1 of those miles would have been tough on a regular mtb so I got some clear advantage from the pugs.

It does make me wonder if I will keep it around for next winter. we need a good blizzard to convince me.
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Chris, that's what makes commuting in Chicago so difficult. I commute on 32's and if it snows heavy now, I drive.* Years ago, Daley always had the streets plowed, so commuting was never a problem. Rahm has done a pretty poor job with snow removal since he got in. Glad you are keeping your expectations low. Winter riding almost always takes longer. Both the weather and off season shape effect it for me. Hang in there, keep warm and remember, you can always take that Pug on the North Branch. Past Dempster the singletrack and Horse Trails start. You can take it all the way up to the Skokie Lagoons. BTW, I run Nate's.




*my commute is 13 miles to UIC Med Center from the far NW Side
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I am wondering if they make combination tread tires for Fatties.
Smoother in the middle for smoother surfaces with more tread on the outsides for snow.
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Originally Posted by Banzai
This is why fatbike are novelties for narrow applications.

If I had to lose a bike tomorrow, my Pugsley would be the first to go.

It's fun, but it's definitely just a fun novelty.
Unless it's your year round trail bike. And you have 3 months of snow. And ride the beach when the trails are a muddy mess. YRMV.
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