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Fatbike race on lake ice... hold my beer & watch this (video)

Old 01-16-18, 09:18 AM
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Fatbike race on lake ice... hold my beer & watch this (video)

I rode the Arctic Fever Fat Tire race on Lake Minnetonka over the weekend. Challenging race with temps around 0F and large patches of bare ice on the lake ice sections. The course was 11 miles, mostly on the ice/snow of Lake Minnetonka, some single-track sections, and a couple short rail-trail sections. The lake was very difficult mix of bare ice and deep snow drifts; transitioning from bare ice to deep snowdrifts was a very unique bike-handling challenge! The bare ice created interesting challenges too; to stay upright while avoiding all the riders and bikes that didn't! Most riders were riding studded tires, but many rode with only one stud on the bike.

I finished 37th place of 133 finishers (200 riders registered) with a time of 1:04:43. I happy with this, since my primary goals were: avoid frostbite, avoid bruises, and finish it. I achieved all three goals!

I had my GoPro bar-mounted to record the fun, here are two edits (some repeated clips):

The long edit (15 minutes) with lots of the beauty, challenges, and fun:


The short edit with only the hits, near-misses, and bails:


edit/afterthought: here's a link to the race course segment on Strava: https://www.strava.com/segments/16816033

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Very cool! I'd say it looks like fun but with the bare ice, I'd be lying - I don't have studs and have taken a few tumbles on ice.
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Quite entertaining! I had something else going the same day but since I don't have studs, I'm kinda glad I missed it. I did talk to a couple who raced it and they said it was a very good turnout this year.
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Originally Posted by reverborama
Quite entertaining! I had something else going the same day but since I don't have studs, I'm kinda glad I missed it. I did talk to a couple who raced it and they said it was a very good turnout this year.
I was surprised by the size of the crowd at the start line, I had heard from many friends that they weren't interested in racing at those temps and on bare ice. It was hard to say how many people at the start line where racing, versus spectators. But I'd say there were 150+ racers at the start.

Honestly, the course conditions were good, the handful of bare ice patches were the most demanding. Lucky, the bare ice was mostly spread out, offering you good grip on snow for 20 feet, then 25 feet of pure focus, than 40 feet of good footing, ... etc.

I also have the good future to live a mile from Grays Bay, so I was able to get some rides on the ice to get a feel for the right tire pressure and know how to manage my bike when transitioning from wind-drifts to bare ice.

I look forward to riding this race again in 2019.
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Seems the hardest part was staying upright? That kinda of riding could use some big tires with big grip studs. Really beefy screw in studs used for motorcycles.
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Originally Posted by Leebo
Seems the hardest part was staying upright? That kinda of riding could use some big tires with big grip studs. Really beefy screw in studs used for motorcycles.
I was surprised at how little grip 4" tires with carbide studs got on the ice. I was thinking chains might be better. But I suspect the biggest grip-issue was lack of weight driving the studs into the ice when it's so cold.
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My local trail Sunday was 95% ice luge. Got a 45 N wrathchild, great grip for a 4.6 tires. 20 riders, all slipping to some extent. Look up grip studs, need a big lugged tire to get them to work, they would excel at that event.
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Wrathchild would be better than the Dillinger studded tires for this race! I like the versatility of the Dillingers, but with the studs on the shoulder of the tire... they're not the best tires on skating rinks. And the studs on the Wrathchild are larger.
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That was major amounts of cool.
Boy do those tires hum.

I noticed logs on the side of the ice trail.
Why didn't you bunny hop them?

Another thing I noticed was the guy with the grey jacket in front of you.
He seemed to be able to coast pretty well even on a snowy trail.
I thought fattys didn't coast well under those conditions.

You give me hope.
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oh man!
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Nice job out there Birchwood rider 😀!
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Nice job out there Birchwood rider 😀!
Birchie representing!
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As we say in Massachusetts Killah video ! Looks like a great time. I love when near the end you hit some deeper snow and other rider getting stuck in it. I start talking to myself out loud when I hit those conditions trying to keep it rolling.

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The GoPro makes me laugh more times than I like to admit... when I reviewing video and listen to the stuff I say when I'm riding/racing.
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Looks like a well organized event.

Although I have to wonder if bodies on the ground and studded tires are a good combination?

Still safer than here anyway.

https://road.cc/content/news/171542-v...ters-meet-head

https://globalnews.ca/news/2830928/w...e-race-pileup/
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Originally Posted by SHBR
Looks like a well organized event.

Although I have to wonder if bodies on the ground and studded tires are a good combination?
I was very impressed with the organization at this race. I do a lot of self-supported races where you get cue-sheets when you start and a beer when you get back... so anything is impressive to me

I honestly wondered about studded tires and safety; however, you'd be hard pressed to find bare skin out there to get cut by a stud.

edit: I should add, the studded tires here are the commercially available studs - not DYI with screws.
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Plus you don't have the speed or horsepower of motorcycles. You'd really need something a lot longer and sharper to do any more damage than you would just piling into someone who's down with unstudded tires.
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Its the D.I.Y. hacks that could be problematic.

10mm studs could easily tear through typical winter clothing.

Most commercial tire companies would be worried about lawsuits, not likely to produce anything that dangerous.
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