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Old 07-26-15, 01:26 PM
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Took the new Ridley out for her maiden voyage, and did a Tombay

Yup, my brand spanking new CF Ridley Fenix, has experienced it's first Tombay.

I was stopped at an intersection that had stayed red for a long time while a train was passing through past the intersection. When I saw the end of the train was near I clipped the right foot back in and was adjusting myself a little bit, and managed to fall over right there with cars to the side and back of me.

I felt stupid, but I'm unscathed, and the bike came through with a couple of small scratches on the brake lever that hid well with a Sharpie.

I guess now I can just ride it without worrying about that first act of stupidity
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Yep, it's always nice to have that behind you.
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I and many others here will feel your pain. I'm so afraid to ride my latest new bike that I want to keep it in the living room. But that would keep it from fulfilling it's intended purpose of being ridden. The inevitable is yet to come.
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... and folks ask me why I don't give up my old school toecilps and straps in favor of modern snap-in clipless bindings.
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A guy I work with just got a new to him Fuji Roubaix last weekend, and did a toe clip and strap Tombay coming up to our keyed gate opener. Hr did it in front of two people on our crew, and I got to hear all about it due to him being a fellow cyclist.

I guess toe clips and didn't help him Thursday.

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Sorry it happened but at least you don't have to worry about when the first one will be. See, make a negative a positive.....good energy!

Now put tons of miles on the bike!!!!
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... and folks ask me why I don't give up my old school toecilps and straps in favor of modern snap-in clipless bindings.
Me too. I have a pair of Speedplay Frogs and cleats, and I just can't bring myself to put 'em on.
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... and folks ask me why I don't give up my old school toecilps and straps in favor of modern snap-in clipless bindings.
Folks have been doing the same thing with clips and straps for decades before clipless was invented.

I wonder if this is seen as a clipless issue now, only because there are so many riders going from nothing to clipless without doing their first tombe's with toe clips beforehand.
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Folks have been doing the same thing with clips and straps for decades before clipless was invented.
You're correct. I've been riding with clips when clipless came out. People were falling at the same rate with clips. If anything clipless are easier to get out of compared to straps.

But I think the issue for many of us is having to deal with something new. Falling at 30 yo is a laugh; at 60 it's long lasting hurt
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You're correct. I've been riding with clips when clipless came out. People were falling at the same rate with clips. If anything clipless are easier to get out of compared to straps.

But I think the issue for many of us is having to deal with something new. Falling at 30 yo is a laugh; at 60 it's long lasting hurt
Worse would be toe clips, straps and cleats with straps yanked way down. NO WAY OUT!

65 and went over/down last week with a backpack full of groceries. Both driver and passenger kept asking......SIR, are you all right!!!!
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Originally Posted by CrankyFranky View Post
Me too. I have a pair of Speedplay Frogs and cleats, and I just can't bring myself to put 'em on.
Cranky, I have Speedplay Frogs on all 3 of my bikes and really like them a lot.
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What is a "Tombay"?
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What is a "Tombay"?
A fall. From the French Tombé, pronounced Tombay (sort of), and meaning fallen.
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I did one last weekend, too. At an intersection after a hot 25-mile ride. My right Speedplay didn't unclip. I guess I had been standing in some sand at the edge of a road, earlier. Didn't bang my shoe off before clipping in. I'm such a dork, I actually shielded my Domane with my body as I went over. (It's pretty new.) Anyway, scratch on my arm and just below the knee. To make things worse, my right foot unclipped as I fell. SO EMBARRASSING.

The only good thing were the number of people stopping to ask if I was all right. Including a guy also riding a Domane and a several drivers. Nice to see people concerned and ready to help!
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What is a "Tombay"?
What FBinNY said.

In this sub-forum, "Club Tombay" is the not-very-exclusive coterie of those who have experienced a Tombay. Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I think it is, by definition, a failure to clip out (Would falling over using toe clips and straps officially count?) Most of us join at one point or another. And the vast majority of them or more or less harmless. I have 2-3 submitted experiences, in each case the largest bruises were to my ego.

Not to restart the endless debate about "clipless" systems, but those who fear being trapped in them probably shouldn't. Clipless pedals have caused me to fall over a couple of times when I failed to clip out at a stop or if I clipped out on one side but got my center of gravity over on the other side. You land on your shoulder and dust yourself off. OTOH, last year when I had a crash and went over the bars, clipping out was neither the cause nor an additional problem - I was out of my pedals without even thinking about it.
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Yeah, I got the first couple scratches just transporting my bike right after I bought it from the shop.

I have plenty on my mountain bike from the bike sliding out after I leaned the saddle against a parking meter.

And frogs are about as easy to clip out of as it gets. There is no spring tension--the cleat just slides out once you get to it's release angle
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I bought my first LBS bike in 73 and put toe clips and straps on before it left the shop, all my bikes have had some version (I did switch to clipless a few yrs ago on my Team Fuji) until this n+1. I've tombayed a few times on the Fuji, but I'm sure at some point in time in the last 30 or 40 yrs I did the same thing on one of my old bikes too, I just don't recall doing it.

If there's something embarrassing to be done, I'll probably be the one doing it.
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Worse would be toe clips, straps and cleats with straps yanked way down. NO WAY OUT!

65 and went over/down last week with a backpack full of groceries. Both driver and passenger kept asking......SIR, are you all right!!!!
If you don't make a big deal, it isn't. (Says Ben, 62 and still both riding toeclips, cleats and straps pulled tight and occasionally falling over. When it happens, I just remember I've just made a fool of my self, relax and hit the road easily. Usually just slightly dirty my clothes and don't break skin, even exposed.)
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I joined the Tombay Club about 6 months ago. I learned from that and changed out my shoes, clips and pedals to SPD adjustable that I set on the minimum setting. That was a great decision and I have not had an issue at all. The SPD pedals are easier to clip out of than my old road pedals.
Welcome to the club and I hope you don't have to be embarrassed again.
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Thank goodness that new Fenix is alright!!! Sc****s heal up, but repairs, and replacement of components, costs money. Well, if it isn't too bad a sc****, or maybe a break would be kind of spendy.

Glad that you can post, and smile about the Tombay, now. And as several said above, now that is over with and done, enjoy all the miles that sweet Ridley gives you, those are some beautiful bicycles.

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Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
A fall. From the French Tombé, pronounced Tombay (sort of), and meaning fallen.
Thanks. Google didn't provide any immediate definition or common use of the word "Tombay" that fit its use on this thread.
Is there any special reason to use such an obscure/cryptic term on an English language website?
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Thanks. Google didn't provide any immediate definition or common use of the word "Tombay" that fit its use on this thread.
Is there any special reason to use such an obscure/cryptic term on an English language website?
I knew the meaning and source, but why is anybody's guess. Probably someone was being cute and it caught on. As pointed out earlier it's now sort of a "club" sort of like the mile high club but not as much fun to join.
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Originally Posted by John E View Post
... and folks ask me why I don't give up my old school toecilps and straps in favor of modern snap-in clipless bindings.
Although if you wear old-style cleated shoes and have the straps tight it's a heck of a lot harder to free your foot than with clipless.
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Although if you wear old-style cleated shoes and have the straps tight it's a heck of a lot harder to free your foot than with clipless.
let's not get into the toe-clips vs clipless argument.

It's very simple --- If you attach your feet to the pedals by any method, and fail to disconnect in anticipation of stopping, you risk getting caught, and falling unless you can do a trackstand or recover by rolling forward before you do. It isn't all that common, but seems to happen to everyone at least once, usually early on before they learn to think about it in advance.

Even experienced riders can have it happen. A friend (very experienced rider) who was cut off was so focused on his emergency stop and avoiding the collision (which he did) that he didn't unclip and went over.
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