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Old 08-10-15, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by baron von trail View Post
I'm never "serious." BUt, there really ought to be a distinction between a serious "cyclist" and someone who is just out riding a bike.
Hills.
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Old 08-10-15, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Viking55803 View Post
..... While moving along I took a break from the sensations to daydream a bit..... Of course, the cliche' comes to mind: it's not about the destination, but he journey, but sometimes cliche's are apt......

Not that any of this matters, of course. I was pulled out of my daydream by a complaining leg. Every cyclist knows what I'm talking about: a leg or legs start squawking. It's not a cramp, exactly, but something like that. I shifted to a higher gear and dropped my tempo......
Sounds like a great ride! I love those special (yet routine) long rides. It is the journey! It is always... and has always been... the journey.

Daydreaming while cycling (or bike riding) is only slightly risky. Loosing your mental alertness (daydreaming) and having muscle discomfort could also be early signs of dehydration. On long rides I make a point to hydrate (drink) every four miles. A swallow at least... more is a judgment call.
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Old 08-10-15, 09:32 AM
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Old 08-10-15, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by otg View Post
I was putting on my helmet and gloves after a break during a ride this morning. A woman came around the corner and saw me and asked "is it fun"? My answer was yes, I feel like a 12 year old kid when I'm on the bike. I'll be 60 in a few months.

^^^^^^ Well said !! This is the way I feel too.
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Old 08-10-15, 12:06 PM
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I ride alone during the week, or with my son on our lunch time...
On the weekends I ride with my wife...she says that while riding she feels "powerful"...
I like for her to feel powerful.
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Old 08-10-15, 12:35 PM
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Biker



Cyclist


Does that solve your dilemma?
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Old 08-10-15, 01:18 PM
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After my comment earlier today, I went for a 30 mile ride. Wore cargo shorts and a T shirt, took 2.5 hours and had a good time. While enjoying the ride, got to thinking about the people afflicted with "SCS" and why they would put them selves thru it. Some of the groups that suffer from "SCS" include hipsters, Lance wanabee's, color coordinated kit folks, color coordinated bicycle folks, etc......
I believe it's because they want to part of the "in" crowd.






"SCS" is short for Serious Cyclist Syndrome
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Old 08-10-15, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by baron von trail View Post
Semantics, but IMO, putzing around at 8 to 10mph on a heavy bike in blue jeans and a T-shirt once or twice a week is not cycling. It's best described as bike riding. There is also virtually zero health benefit in doing that. Cycling, OTOH, is serious riding, typically someone averaging 16-18mph over 20-plus miles at least 4 times a week. There is health benefit in that.
I knew that you were not being serious as 50+ers are mature enough not to be so pompous about their pastime.
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Old 08-10-15, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by choteau View Post
After my comment earlier today, I went for a 30 mile ride. Wore cargo shorts and a T shirt, took 2.5 hours and had a good time. While enjoying the ride, got to thinking about the people afflicted with "SCS" and why they would put them selves thru it. Some of the groups that suffer from "SCS" include hipsters, Lance wanabee's, color coordinated kit folks, color coordinated bicycle folks, etc......
I believe it's because they want to part of the "in" crowd.

"SCS" is short for Serious Cyclist Syndrome
Couldn't help but find the lyrics to "In Crowd"

I'm in with the in crowd
I go where the in crowd goes
I'm in with the in crowd
And I know what the in crowd knows
Anytime of the year, don't you hear?
Dressing fine, making time

We breeze up and down the street
We get respect from the people we meet
They make way day or night
They know the in crowd is out of sight

I'm in with the in crowd
I know every latest dance
When you're in with the in crowd
It's so easy to find romance
Any time of the year, don't you hear?
If it's square, we ain't there

We make every minute count
Our share is always the biggest come out
Other guys imitate us
But the original is still the greatest in crowd
Any time of the year, don't you hear?
Spendin' cash, talkin' trash

I'll show you a real good time
Come on with me, leave your troubles behind
I don't care where you've been
You ain't been nowhere 'til you've been in
With the in crowd, with the in crowd, in crowd

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PAGE, BILLY

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Cyclist or Biker? Two different names for the same thing.

Cyclist395 just doesn't sound right.
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Originally Posted by choteau View Post
After my comment earlier today, I went for a 30 mile ride. Wore cargo shorts and a T shirt, took 2.5 hours and had a good time. While enjoying the ride, got to thinking about the people afflicted with "SCS" and why they would put them selves thru it. Some of the groups that suffer from "SCS" include hipsters, Lance wanabee's, color coordinated kit folks, color coordinated bicycle folks, etc......
I believe it's because they want to part of the "in" crowd.






"SCS" is short for Serious Cyclist Syndrome
Foolishly dismissive. Some of us ride in different ways at different times. Some days I'm in street clothes poodling around on a singlespeed. Some days I'm touring, maybe in street clothes, maybe in lycra. Some days I'm on the road bike in full kit sprinting up hills and doing interval training. A year ago, when I was a mere stripling of 59, some days I was racing.

Try to imagine a life, and tastes, other than your own.
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Old 08-10-15, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by choteau View Post
After my comment earlier today, I went for a 30 mile ride. Wore cargo shorts and a T shirt, took 2.5 hours and had a good time. While enjoying the ride, got to thinking about the people afflicted with "SCS" and why they would put them selves thru it. Some of the groups that suffer from "SCS" include hipsters, Lance wanabee's, color coordinated kit folks, color coordinated bicycle folks, etc......
I believe it's because they want to part of the "in" crowd.




"SCS" is short for Serious Cyclist Syndrome
The issue of cycling clothing has been debated frequently. Wear what you are comfortable with. I wear bib shorts and jerseys for fit and function. I wear bright colors so car drivers can see me better. I usually ride solo and am not trying to be "in" any crowd.
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Old 08-10-15, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by choteau View Post
After my comment earlier today, I went for a 30 mile ride. Wore cargo shorts and a T shirt, took 2.5 hours and had a good time. While enjoying the ride, got to thinking about the people afflicted with "SCS" and why they would put them selves thru it. Some of the groups that suffer from "SCS" include hipsters, Lance wanabee's, color coordinated kit folks, color coordinated bicycle folks, etc......
I believe it's because they want to part of the "in" crowd.
"SCS" is short for Serious Cyclist Syndrome
I am so far out of any "in" crowd there isn't any crowd left, but then again I got serious about cycling (and racing) when we were all considered oddballs, misfits and downright un-American. Wool shorts, silk jerseys, toe clips and cleats, downtube shifters - "fixes" were for the track, not the coffee shop.

But hey, if you're comfortable wearing hiking clothes on a bike ride that's great; judging people by their appearance is your thing, not mine.
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Old 08-10-15, 03:24 PM
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I guess my attempt at humor was too subtle for a few folks.
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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
Funny you should mention Robin Williams because just his afternoon I watched a documentary about his life and death, and did not hear a word about his passion for cycling.

The main reason Iím quoting this post is because I recently got embroiled in a brouhaha on Bike Forums about expensive bicycles (I have one). Opponents of such high end bikes argued that there is a limit in price to what one can achieve. Proponents pointed out that just a test ride cannot give the proper sense of the ride, and Iím ever-increasing in my delight even after two years.

Anyways, one description of the experience I later thought of was the flying analogy. I presume many people have flying dreams. For me I take a little running start and fly effortlessly and smoothly at a speed between walking and cycling, at about eight feet off the ground, and while in flight it seems so real to me. When riding my high end CF on a smooth, flat to slightly downhill road, thatís the closest I get in real life.
In 2002 I rode in my last 'Ride For The Roses' bike ride to benefit Lance Armstrongs' Cancer Foundation. Two weeks after the ride I was diagnosed with melanoma and that surgery 2 weeks later changed my life. I did get a chance to ride a few miles with(near) Robin Williams and Lance Armstrong and had a friend snap this picture of me with Robin just before the start.
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Old 08-10-15, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by choteau View Post
I guess my attempt at humor was too subtle for a few folks.
Too late, mate. Nobody is convinced about your "attempt at humor". Try to grow up. It may not be too late,
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just a couple comments...

In younger years, I was a licensed pilot, soaring pilot, that is, real pilot according to some. Powered fight is like acting in the movies. Flying a glider is like acting on a live stage. Just the idea that nothing more than the interaction of the sun and sky and earth could be harnessed by something so simple as a few hundred pounds of gracefully sculpted fiber glass to carry a man tens on thousands of feet into the air, covering hundreds of miles while leaving nothing in my wake but mildly ruffled air is so magical. Almost enough to make you believe in angels.

So I understand the Robin Williams comment very, very well. Perhaps better that most. I don't have the vision to hold a license any more, but trust me, I fly all the time. Just on wheels instead of wings now. Oh, and I don't think it's a coincidence that powered flight was first achieved by two brothers who were bicycle makers before they became aviators.

Secondly, I can't agree that how a bicycle is ridden, how far or how often defines a "cyclist". If you understand and at some level believe in the magic that is a bicycle ridden for shear pleasure, you qualify regardless of your attire.

Finally, I've heard all the raucous blathering about how much money a person should or should not be spent on a bicycle.

Balderdash and Poppycock!!

If a bike speaks to me, and I can afford it, no one is going to tell me I can't have it. No one!

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Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
Foolishly dismissive. Some of us ride in different ways at different times. Some days I'm in street clothes poodling around on a singlespeed. Some days I'm touring, maybe in street clothes, maybe in lycra. Some days I'm on the road bike in full kit sprinting up hills and doing interval training. A year ago, when I was a mere stripling of 59, some days I was racing.

Try to imagine a life, and tastes, other than your own.
Exactly. Somedays I grab the Cannondale Criterium and climb hills fast as I possibly can and with suitable attire. Other days it's kick back on the fog line at a pace for a longer ride....in proper attire.

Then, just about any evening in our quaint resort town I will be dressed in casual clothes riding my gentlemans racers (Colnago or Trek 760). I catch comments about not wearing a certain piece of protective equipment that is not necessary. The bottom line, dress and ride according to your enjoyment.

It's a lovely day for a ride.
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What Chas, and OldsCOOL said in their posts is spot on, what puzzles me about the whole thing is why someone thinks they need to determine what others MUST wear, or the type of bicycle they ride is the correct kind, for that matter. If someone wants to do the "I wear the XXX Team kit" thing, more power to them. If you are the cut off jeans and tennis shoes/T-shirt type, on a cruiser, or the guy on the 'Bent with sandals on their feet and a groomed beard, I'm glad that you are out riding for what ever distance you are going after, and at the speed you feel best doing.

Its the people that seem hell bent on castigating someone for not riding the identical bicycle and wear what they feel is appropriate, that turn me off. When they spend time trolling the forums, or out on the roads/trails looking to beat down on the rider that is different from their ideal rider, they are just showing their immaturity, and that they are narrow minded. Short and quick answer for me, its absolutely no one else business what I wear or what I ride, or how fast I do so. Best that the busy bodies find someone else to try and control, I am 58+ years old, did my military service, pay my taxes and paid for my bicycle/kit, if it does not suit them, they can get bent.

I am certain that the OP was being humorous, and Chas wasn't looking to fry him on his reply, its the ones that are serious about this topic that make me want to look for another place to be, and maybe that is what is needed. There is a lot of navel gazing here this week, for some reason, must be the heat.

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Originally Posted by chasm54 View Post
I'm not much concerned with what we call it, but I empathise with your feelings about being on the bike. I'm often asked what I think about when on a long ride, or when touring, and the answer, often, is nothing. I'm not thinking, I'm just being. It's highly meditative and, I think, extremely good for my mental health. The modern description of it is "mindfulness" - being in the moment, aware of one's relationship with one's surroundings, in contact with the physical rhythms of the activity. I feel whole when on the bike.
This is how I feel as well and a healthy way to look at it if I may add.
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL View Post
Hills.
Hill riding for sure is a type of serious bike riding. There is also commuting, especially for those of us who commute over 20 miles each way. Then there is hard riding for 50-plus miles to get in a good workout, or long distance riding like centuries or 150-mile rides. All of those are completely different than just hopping on the bike to tootle around town or on a path through the woods.

Oh..and mountain biking. That stuff is a whole other animal.
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Oh..and mountain biking. That stuff is a whole other animal.
It is. My Trek 820 is paid no attention until the weather turns cold.
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Originally Posted by Gerryattrick View Post
I knew that you were not being serious as 50+ers are mature enough not to be so pompous about their pastime.
Even though I take my workouts serious, and definitely commute as fast as I can to not only get to work on time but also to get home to eat, I don't believe I ever referred to my rides as cycling. Cycling is kind of a pompous term...unless it's in reference to entering into a race.
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I have wondered about what to call myself as well. I am certainly not one of the cyclists that rides an expensive road bike with all the current cycling gear. I certainly don't go as fast as many people on this board. I do however ride by Giant Cypress almost every day and average over 100 miles per week. I guess it really doesn't matter. I love riding my bike and am grateful I have become an avid rider of bicycles in my late 50s.
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