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Old 12-02-15, 08:33 AM
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The 50+ Type 1 Rider

Let's start a thread for those that are Type 1 riders, be it short or long distances, triumphs and struggles, your habits and techniques.

I'll start with pre-ride prep. For the most part, longer rides are on Saturdays whereas the short, intense rides are during weeknights. For breakfast prior to a 50 or 60+mi ride I will have a bowl of oatmeal with toast and glass of milk. I will not begin a ride with blood glucose (BG) reading below 200 and no higher than 250. Grab my coffee and out the door I go. In the seat bag there is a snackbar, tube of glucose tabs and maybe 2-3 "scooby snacks".

Depending on distance and temps I may or may not bring my meter. The reason being I am in a very predictable routine and know when to snack. When BG goes low, it is gradual for me, you may be different in that regard. Sometimes I mix in a packet of my son's high octane energy drinks into my 24oz water bottle and drink it along that first 30mi and then refill with just water. If by chance the BG goes low during the ride, this is noticeable long before it becomes a safety issue. Cadence will slow, small chainring is becoming a struggle....time to get off the bike and eat a few tabs and a snackbar. This only gets complicated when insulin doses and activity levels at work, chores or play have suddenly varied in a 24hr period.

I will note that when temps rise above 85f I wont ride beyond 20-25mi and will make it a hill or speed/interval workout. For some reason I have become more succeptible to mild heat exhaustion which is no more bothersome than a good hard ride, physically. I just refuse to ride an endurance ride when ambiant temps are above 85, the tarmac is near 100 and you can smell the hot asphalt.

Dosing, I do Humulin N in the morning and again late afternoon. BG will spike after a short, intense interval, speed or hillclimb "race" but will sharply drop about 2 hours later. The tricky part is the night time where I will drop the pm dose about 5u so I wont bottom out during the night. None of this is impossible. Like you, I struggle for that norm and predictable routine.
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say what?
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The 50+ Type I Rider.

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say what?
I get it...Type I Diabetes; from the title it sounded like you were proposing an elite corps of Fifty-Plus Riders.
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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
The 50+ Type I Rider.


I get it...Type I Diabetes; from the title it sounded like you were proposing an elite corps of Fifty-Plus Riders.
Yeah, that title was a bit sketchy.
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I just try to get out there as much as I can. Bring water and snacks. This sounds like too much work.
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Originally Posted by usedbutnotup View Post
I just try to get out there as much as I can. Bring water and snacks. This sounds like too much work.
Beats the heck out of high blood pressure, cholesterol and the diabetic complications that come with being an inactive diabetic.
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Here is a thread I posted back in 2011 when in training for my first century.

https://www.bikeforums.net/fifty-plus...-diabetic.html
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You should look into the tour de cure in your area
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I'm a Type II over 50 rider, and I have to say, I admire how much management it takes for you Type I's to take care of business while doing this. Type II is much easier to deal with while strenuously exercising, and it tends to ameliorate itself as one develops a fitness regimen - not so for you guys, so props and keep up the good work!
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Originally Posted by D1andonlyDman View Post
I'm a Type II over 50 rider, and I have to say, I admire how much management it takes for you Type I's to take care of business while doing this. Type II is much easier to deal with while strenuously exercising, and it tends to ameliorate itself as one develops a fitness regimen - not so for you guys, so props and keep up the good work!
I just thought I would comment in the hopes of helping or even curing your (or anyone else) Type II diabetes. Do some research on unfiltered apple cider vinegar. If you add a tablespoon or even two to an 8oz glass of water a half hour before meals and bedtime, after a month, you just might be able to stop using your medication. There are other health benefits like lower blood pressure, cholesterol and more but in your case, the avc will stabilize sugar metabolism and negate the need for medicine. In theory, after a month or so, your body might be able to regulate itself and sugars.
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Originally Posted by OldsCOOL View Post
Beats the heck out of high blood pressure, cholesterol and the diabetic complications that come with being an inactive diabetic.
I do not have diabetes but I have a friend who died from it. He took the exact opposite approach that you take and it did not bode well for him. I admire the effort that you put into your rides.
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Originally Posted by NYMXer View Post
I just thought I would comment in the hopes of helping or even curing your (or anyone else) Type II diabetes. Do some research on unfiltered apple cider vinegar. If you add a tablespoon or even two to an 8oz glass of water a half hour before meals and bedtime, after a month, you just might be able to stop using your medication. There are other health benefits like lower blood pressure, cholesterol and more but in your case, the avc will stabilize sugar metabolism and negate the need for medicine. In theory, after a month or so, your body might be able to regulate itself and sugars.
The way I'm curing my Type II Diabetes is by losing a ton of weight and getting into shape. I've dropped 120 pounds, my doc has slashed my meds by 75%, and my A1C is now consistently in the 5.5-5.9 range. Before the weight loss, I was maxed out on meds short of starting insulin, and my A1C was around 8. I also no longer have high BP, and no longer take meds for it.
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That's great news Dan, congrats on your health success. I didn't know what you have already done and was offering some free advice. I drink ACV for other reasons but wanted to help the awareness that their might be a more natural way to control your situation.
Maybe someone else will read that and benefit from it or share the info with someone else.
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Originally Posted by D1andonlyDman View Post
The way I'm curing my Type II Diabetes is by losing a ton of weight and getting into shape. I've dropped 120 pounds, my doc has slashed my meds by 75%, and my A1C is now consistently in the 5.5-5.9 range. Before the weight loss, I was maxed out on meds short of starting insulin, and my A1C was around 8. I also no longer have high BP, and no longer take meds for it.
Excellent! You fought back. Too many diabetics are overweight AND inactive. That leads to bondage, being chained to an early grave.
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I do not have diabetes but I have a friend who died from it. He took the exact opposite approach that you take and it did not bode well for him. I admire the effort that you put into your rides.
Thank you, the encouragement is always appreciated. When I was diagnosed at 28yrs old and laying in the hospital I made a decision to step up and continue with weight lifting and good diet. Now, some 30yrs later I am not lifting as much because I love cycling. "Treat it and LIVE" is my motto.
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Whew! Like Jim from Boston, I thought this was about the 'A' team riders, not diabetics. Carry on...
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Originally Posted by Jim from Boston View Post
The 50+ Type I Rider.


I get it...Type I Diabetes; from the title it sounded like you were proposing an elite corps of Fifty-Plus Riders.
Yep, Jim! My first assumption was that he is talking about something like a type A managers - anal, bossy, obsessive, not the kind of ride leader you want to lead a group with mixed abilities!

So I thought it would be an entertaining rant on personalities!
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Originally Posted by NYMXer View Post
I just thought I would comment in the hopes of helping or even curing your (or anyone else) Type II diabetes. Do some research on unfiltered apple cider vinegar. If you add a tablespoon or even two to an 8oz glass of water a half hour before meals and bedtime, after a month, you just might be able to stop using your medication. There are other health benefits like lower blood pressure, cholesterol and more but in your case, the avc will stabilize sugar metabolism and negate the need for medicine. In theory, after a month or so, your body might be able to regulate itself and sugars.
I wonder if this would be beneficial for those of us with high cholesterol with other causes than Type II?
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I took cider vinegar for recovery purposes back in my powerlifting days 20yrs ago. I have long forgotten why.
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Good for you!!!

Like a couple of others, I'm type 2 and my regimen looks like a normal day for most.

If I'm going on a 50ish miler, I eat oatmeal or a P&J and a banana, gulp down a sugar free Kroger powdered energy mix, grab a couple of Clif bars and go. Somewhere around 35 miles I'll eat a Clif bar and drink another powered energy drink mix, and finish the ride. For an After work 25ish miler, I eat a banana or a Clif bar, gulp down an energy drink, and ride.

I have found if I don't eat before 40ish miles, I'm probably going to bonk, and if that happens, even after eating something I won't make a full recovery. So my solution is to plan a food stop and eat before I feel like I need to eat (if I'm doing a metric, or I'm riding hard, it may be two stops).
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Originally Posted by Wileyrat View Post
Good for you!!!

Like a couple of others, I'm type 2 and my regimen looks like a normal day for most.

If I'm going on a 50ish miler, I eat oatmeal or a P&J and a banana, gulp down a sugar free Kroger powdered energy mix, grab a couple of Clif bars and go. Somewhere around 35 miles I'll eat a Clif bar and drink another powered energy drink mix, and finish the ride. For an After work 25ish miler, I eat a banana or a Clif bar, gulp down an energy drink, and ride.

I have found if I don't eat before 40ish miles, I'm probably going to bonk, and if that happens, even after eating something I won't make a full recovery. So my solution is to plan a food stop and eat before I feel like I need to eat (if I'm doing a metric, or I'm riding hard, it may be two stops).
Timing is really important. During weeknights an after dinner ride is just great but if I want an intense training ride (1-1.5hr) it's done before dinner but not without a snack.
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I have type 1 diabetes. I use a pump and CGM. I cut my basal rate down to 60%. That seems to work for me. I am hoping to do ride the rockies this year. I would switch to the pump vs shots. The pump gives you more freedom.
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