I wish they'd quit screwin' with the time.
Daylight savings time always screws up my life for the first week or so. :fight: My 71 year old body can't adjust like it used to. Got up late yesterday because we stayed up late (according to the "new" time) Sunday night. Got up too late today for our yoga class. It starts in 15 minutes. Not sure if I'm going riding either. :notamused:
Why can't our "leaders" just pick one time or the other and leave it? |
Have another cup of coffee.
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I am always amazed by people that get all worked up over loosing 1 hour of sleep because of the time change. Doesn't this happen anytime you say "oh I should go to bed and then you stay up another hour"? Big deal, you missed an hour of sleep. It happens all the time.
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Dont get all worked up over something so trivial. Look at it this way. If you work, you will have an extra hour to ride in the evening.
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All standard all the time :thumb:
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I didn't appreciate the switch because I have switched to my summer bike already and that bike did not have front lights. After the 'spring forward' I woke up to a darkness and had to ride my winter bike instead... ;-) I know, first world problems huh? :-)
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Actually read an article the other day about the time change. Apparently auto accidents increase by 6% during the week following the spring change.
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Eliminating the time shift comes up for discussion about twice per year (imagine that! :) ), but folks can't agree on whether we should have year-round daylight time or year-round standard time.
Since I get up at about the same time every day, 7 days per week, I have pretty strong circadian rhythms. What works for me, particularly at the much more challenging "spring ahead" transition, is to shift my sleep schedule by about 5 mins / night for the week leading up to the official time change. I also tend to get up between 4 and 4:30 on standard time and more like 4:30 or 4:45 on daylight time, so my actual shift is only about 30 minutes, instead of the full hour. At my latitude (32 degrees), sunrise varies by about +/- 1 hour during the year, and the change between daylight and standard times cuts this by about 1/3, which seems reasonable to me. As others have mentioned, I do not consider the decision to stay with the current setup or to switch to daylight-only or standard-only to be one of the burning issues of my life. |
Personally, I wish we would just pick one time standard and stick to it year-round. I am sick and tired of changing clocks and readjusting to the time change every 6 months or so. I wouldn't care if we went with standard time or daylight savings time, just quit changing it.
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Originally Posted by John E
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Eliminating the time shift comes up for discussion about twice per year (imagine that! :) ), but folks can't agree on whether we should have year-round daylight time or year-round standard time.
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I am a sailor. I've sailed an ocean where we used celestial navigation to make landfall. When you have done that, you see see the direct correlation between the sun's location in our sky and the system of time developed hundreds?, thousands? of years ago. Simple and elegant. The sun can be found at its highest point, due south, at noon. (Due north in the southern hemisphere.) And the local time of that highest point as compared to the time at which the sun crosses the prime meridian is what is used to calculate east-west position. The huge breakthrough in navigation and safety at sea. That concept, and the development of clocks (chronometers) accurate enough to use it saved thousands of ships from shipwreck for centuries. We western humans have gotten so far from living in accordance with the seasons and the cycles of the sun that we have to "adjust" that simple, elegant concept.
And, yes, we do corrupt things a little anyway with our time zones where only the middle line of longitude is actually on real sun time. (I applaud Newfoundland for choosing a time zone that better fits their location, 1/2 hour before Atlantic time. That is a Province of seafarers and they have their time priorities dead on.) Standard time is in my book real time. Daylight savings, nah. Ben |
I'm with the folks who say leave it alone in one place or another, & quit messing with it. I blame it all on the politicians, they like messing with decent folk. ;)
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It's easy. Get rid of that silly circadian rhythm...and do you have a yoga class on Sundays?
Ignore time on the change date and sleep as much as you want. The best part of DST is that I can be out there on my bikes until after 9 pm by the middle of the summer. And get a cat, they don't care about DST and it's sort of like having a kid who keeps you engaged enough that you don't notice time as much. I was tapping my hand to the beat of the song on my car stereo years ago and my watch band broke, never found the watch and my wrist never liked the watch back anyway, I've never carried a cellphone about...I just function. PS You never complain about Standard Time returning, so is it Psychosomatic, All Psychosomatic (tepocketa tepocketa)? |
Yeah, we've saved enough candle wax!
Maybe it isn't the "leaders" one needs to persuade... |
It probably makes a difference where in the time zone you live as to whether you like standard or daylight savings time. I wouldn't mind keeping DST year-around because it gives me more time before sunset to ride. People in Chicago need DST just to keep as much evening light as I have on standard time.
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My retired brother-in-law still has to take the newspaper so he doesn't lose track of the days of the week. For him every day is Saturday except for when they throw the big newspaper - that's Sunday.
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The way we do it now is brilliant. I can't believe all the complaining, what a bunch of grumps. I hope anybody who has trouble with this never actually flies between two time zones... <horrors>
If we didn't do DST, sunrise in June would be 4:00 am... nobody wants that.... seriously? And if we went to full time DST, sunrise in December would be 8:00am... dark while kids going to school etc. DST switching is a triumph of human kind's creativity over the solar system... bravo humans! You know what would be even better? A TWO-hour shift. And a raspberry to the grumps.:p http://i.imgur.com/tvyCVQE.png |
I am annoyed that when the Sun was finally rising early enough for me to do my early morning exercise rides, DST pushed it back by an hour, so I have to wait another few weeks for the Northern Hemisphere to face further toward the Sun.
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the phone and computer adjust automatically and my alarm clock has a button I push...so that is the only extra effort the time change causes me, lean over and push a button.
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I just read an article in Yahoo News that said a few states are taking this seriously: the fact that D.S.T. does nothing positive, is a hindrance in most cases and is dis-approved of by most people in the country. Right now, I think it's just N.M. that ignores D.S.T. With any luck, there should be others along, shortly. I stopped turning my clocks backward and forward years ago.
It's kind of like if you had shifters that "re-set" themselves, where every third day, each gear number moves up one (3rd gear means 4th, etc.). Also, on random days, the streetlight color code changes: Red means go, etc). https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...kZI/story.html |
Originally Posted by 1989Pre
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I just read an article in Yahoo News that said a few states are taking this seriously:
1. the fact that D.S.T. does nothing positive, 2. is a hindrance in most cases and 3. is dis-approved of by most people in the country. 1. It's been shown to reduce crime. 2. unsupported allegation 3. Rasmussen reports 43% of Americans think it's unnecessary... a much smaller, more vocal and grumpy minority disapprove of it.
Originally Posted by 1989Pre
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It's kind of like if you had shifters that "re-set" themselves, where every third day, each gear number moves up one (3rd gear means 4th, etc.). Also, on random days, the streetlight color code changes: Red means go, etc).
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
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The way we do it now is brilliant. I can't believe all the complaining, what a bunch of grumps. .....
However I can't fathom why someone would product a nice graphic like yours with the time scale inverted. I suspect that I'm not the only person who would equate earlier with lower, and later with higher, but I guess we can all nitpick the in our own way. |
I don't have a problem with it. It's only twice a year we have to change the clocks so not a big hassle. Plus, I really like having more light in the summertime evenings.
Rick / OCRR |
Discounting the gripe about changing clocks and gaining or losing an hour of sleep twice a year, I think that how one would feel about staying on standard or daylight time all year would depend on where one live. The sun moves in analog time, but time zones are like digital with 3 steps as the sun transits the country. So someone at the eastern end of the central zone and someone at the western end of the eastern zone are an hour apart by the clock even though they're at the same time by the sun.
Essentially folks in Chicago are on daylight time all year round, while folks in western Indiana are on standard time in the summer. No matter how you look at it's pretty arbitrary, but is a question of whether you prefer the benefit of longer daytime in the early AM or evening. For my part, I don't like being woken by the sun steaming through my east facing bedroom window before 5AM, so am a big fan of daylight time. In face 6AM is pretty early so I wouldn't mind double daylight time in the peak summer months. Get to sleep later, and can ride my bike after dinner. |
Originally Posted by FBinNY
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I agree with you that objecting to losing or gaining an hour of sleep twice a year is nonsense.
However I can't fathom why someone would product a nice graphic like yours with the time scale inverted. I suspect that I'm not the only person who would equate earlier with lower, and later with higher, but I guess we can all nitpick the in our own way. I have it both ways of course.:thumb: I kind of like how time flows top to bottom though... like the sand in an hourglass... |
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