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Old 07-06-16, 12:11 PM
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Help me decide my next wheelset!!!

It's come down to a choice between Mavic Ksyrium Elite and American Classic Hurricane wheel sets. I'm leaning towards the AC Hurricanes but I'm still open to other choices as well. I'm 242lbs and still losing weight. I ride mostly on paved trails but occasionally on beat up roads as well. Thanks in advance for any info in helping me make a decision.
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I have a set of Ksyrium Elites ... much older model, though. Here are my thoughts, FWIW

The plusses:

1. They're reasonably light
2. They're reasonably durable.
3. Frankly, they look great.

Minuses:

1. They have heavily bladed spokes. Squirrely at high speeds with even a hint of a crosswind. And of course, if there are significant cross winds, bladed spokes are no bueno.
2. The rear hub needs frequent servicing.
3. Mine have a proprietary spoke nipple design that requires a special wrench. Lezyne makes a multi-tool that works for that, though.
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Hey, easy peasy. Don't buy a wheelset, build your own custom or have one built. Best thing I've found so far for our tandem, 286 lb. team weight, is 36H Chris King Classic hubs, Kinlin XC279 rims, and CX-Ray spokes. Much less expensive double-butted 15-14 round spokes would be just fine, too. The main things for durability are deep rims and 36 spokes. Easy maintenance and repair are good reasons for going with a traditional type wheelset rather then boutique.

Bikehubstore has these rims for >$50. You might call or email them about less expensive hub options.

AC hubs don't get good reviews. The Ksyriums are of proprietary parts and way light on the spoke count.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy View Post
Hey, easy peasy. Don't buy a wheelset, build your own custom or have one built. Best thing I've found so far for our tandem, 286 lb. team weight, is 36H Chris King Classic hubs, Kinlin XC279 rims, and CX-Ray spokes. Much less expensive double-butted 15-14 round spokes would be just fine, too. The main things for durability are deep rims and 36 spokes. Easy maintenance and repair are good reasons for going with a traditional type wheelset rather then boutique.

Bikehubstore has these rims for >$50. You might call or email them about less expensive hub options.

AC hubs don't get good reviews. The Ksyriums are of proprietary parts and way light on the spoke count.
I have to say, I think my next wheel set will be custom built. Even for very high quality components, the cost is very competitive, and you can get them built for your special application at a weight that works for you.
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How much do you want to spend?

I wanted 24 spokes front, 28 spokes rear and couldn't find anything I liked online so I just got a set of custom wheels from PSIMet.com (Robert (Psimet2001) is a Bike Forums member). Velocity A23 rims, White Industries hub, sapim spokes.



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Originally Posted by RonH View Post
How much do you want to spend?

I wanted 24 spokes front, 28 spokes rear and couldn't find anything I liked online so I just got a set of custom wheels from PSIMet.com (Robert (Psimet2001) is a Bike Forums member). Velocity A23 rims, White Industries hub, sapim spokes.
I want to stay below $900.
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Old 07-06-16, 02:29 PM
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I paid $884. You can request a quote and he'll get back to you very quickly with a price.
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These seem to be wheels that folks like and the price is within your limits ($645):

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Worth a look.

HED Ardennes FR + Wheelset
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy View Post
Hey, easy peasy. Don't buy a wheelset, build your own custom or have one built. Best thing I've found so far for our tandem, 286 lb. team weight, is 36H Chris King Classic hubs, Kinlin XC279 rims, and CX-Ray spokes. Much less expensive double-butted 15-14 round spokes would be just fine, too. The main things for durability are deep rims and 36 spokes. Easy maintenance and repair are good reasons for going with a traditional type wheelset rather then boutique. ...
For reliability and easy repairability, I strongly endorse sticking with the traditional 36 spokes per wheel, perhaps 32 for lighter riders such as myself. (I have 36 on the Capos and the Peugeot, 32 on the Bianchi and the Schwinn, and I am not receptive to having fewer than that.) Stay with a 3X pattern (or 4X with 36 spokes, if you like). Even though I experimented with radial front spokes in the early 1970s, I cannot recommend those, either -- too much outward stress on the hub flange.
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I also wanted 36 spoke wheels and ended up going custom. A regular on another forum does wheel builds and had great reviews. I had H+Sons black 36 hole Archtype rims, Ultegra hubs, Sapim race spokes and brass nipples. Hand built, delivered for just a bit over $500. They ride great and I am 190lbs. I believe they would be fine for you.

PM me if you want the reference information. He will respond to your email with a quote or suggestions for wheels.

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Have the Kysrium Elite wheel set on my bike & 25 mm Conti tires.
Probably have around twelve thousand km on them, my mAss runs just under 100 kg. Not overly careful about where I ride; paths, dirt roads, pavement, etc. No problems with the wheel set, no broken spokes or bearing issues. Get them trued once per year- happy I got them.
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I have the American Classic Victory 30 wheelset that I bought for myself this past Christmas. I choose them because they are tubeless clinchers so I can use either type of tire I want on them. Currently using clinchers. They're a little heavier than the Hurricane wheels but they are a little deeper. I've really liked them so far and the only problem I've had with them is putting on a new tire. You'll need lots of soapy water because the rubber rim tape they use doesn't allow the tire to move smoothly across it. I would think that foldable clinchers would be easier to put on them but unfortunately, I have wire bead tires. Maybe my next set of tires will be foldable. Second reason I picked them is because their headquarters is out by TIA. My LBS mechanic worked for American Classic and he said they will take walk-in, warranty issues.
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American Classic All Mountain for me.

They were out there for a few years at $850 but then it was no longer cool to ride rims with an Inside Diameter of 25mm
so they wen't on closeout for $399,,,I snagged em and they are fantastic.

The Wide Lightening with a 30mm I.D. out sold them, I see this one on many bikes but I did not want to change my tire profile that much and wanted a bit lighter rim...

The ones that replaced the A.M.'s in the line are 27mm Inside Diameter with upgraded graphics and are $850.......
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Originally Posted by Fldaves View Post
I want to stay below $900.
Custom wheels
Chris King hubs - 36
DT rims
15-16 butt spokes.

That should be right around $900 and you won't ever regret it.
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There are few upgrades to your ride as profound as a new wheelset. I always go for light/durable and proper app. Wheelset shopping is fun, almost like getting a new bike.
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If running tubeless or ever intending to, it seems that American Classic's tubeless rims have a unique feature call a bead "barb" or bead lock that prevents the tire from burping at lower pressures but may apse keep the tire more locked in than the other tubeless rims I have researched. I'm not sure how good their hubs are.
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Recently decided to upgrade my stock bontragers and did a lot of research. Had a modest budget (was hoping to stay under $500), but mission creep took hold. Came up with these: Boyd Altamonts. Delivery expected on Wednesday. Light, wide, stiff and aero. $800 for the set.

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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy View Post
Hey, easy peasy. Don't buy a wheelset, build your own custom or have one built. Best thing I've found so far for our tandem, 286 lb. team weight, is 36H Chris King Classic hubs, Kinlin XC279 rims, and CX-Ray spokes. Much less expensive double-butted 15-14 round spokes would be just fine, too. The main things for durability are deep rims and 36 spokes. Easy maintenance and repair are good reasons for going with a traditional type wheelset rather then boutique.

Bikehubstore has these rims for >$50. You might call or email them about less expensive hub options.

AC hubs don't get good reviews. The Ksyriums are of proprietary parts and way light on the spoke count.
I would not trust anything I built myself at 45 mph
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Custom here. I love these wheels!
Velocity AeroHead
White Industries H2
Sapim CX-Ray
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This is an interesting discussion. I bought a new BMC CF road bike a few months back. Came with 16/20, F/R spoke wheels. Long accustomed to circa 32 stuff, I never would have considered something like this but I like them. Can't quite figure out how they seem to work so well for a 200# rider.
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Originally Posted by metalheart44 View Post
These seem to be wheels that folks like and the price is within your limits ($645):

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I just received a set of these for my gravel bike. They are good people to deal with, and great bang for the buck.
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For my classic 86 Trek 760 I nabbed a set of '72 Mavic 36h tubular wheels. Had to pay 80.00 but still a decent deal. Makes me wonder what these old things have seen for miles.
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Originally Posted by gettingold View Post
Recently decided to upgrade my stock bontragers and did a lot of research. Had a modest budget (was hoping to stay under $500), but mission creep took hold. Came up with these: Boyd Altamonts. Delivery expected on Wednesday. Light, wide, stiff and aero. $800 for the set.

You will love your Boyd's. Been running mine for the past year and have grown to love them more with each ride. Stiff, well built, and role great especially climbing and descending. Enjoy!
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You will love your Boyd's. Been running mine for the past year and have grown to love them more with each ride. Stiff, well built, and role great especially climbing and descending. Enjoy!
Thanks! I finally got a chance to try them on a longer ride today and I love them. And I mispoke on price; paid $700, not $800.
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