Wildwood 

I don't normally ask medical questions, but this seemed like an easy one for 50+.

Whew, boy! There's a lot of gut ache in this condition, would appreciate knowing the timeline for this malady. Does it get worse as the stone moves lower? Urologist on Monday, if they haven't closed for the holiday.

10 Wheels

Depends on the size of the stone.

Wildwood 

Does a shot (or more) of whiskey make the Oxycodone more effective?

JohnDThompson 

Kidney stones are one of the most miserable maladies. The local urologists had standing orders for us when their patients were admitted with renal colic. The first two were were IV fluids and morphine. And "strain all urine." If you can catch a stone that's passed, it may save you the bother of a cystoscopy.

FBinNY 

Averages don't mean anything here. As stated above, it depends on the stone.

Also keep in mind that some stones don't pass completely, and end up blocking the ureter, which makes the situation more critical. So keep your fingers crossed, and best wishes for an easy pass at the doctor's office.

NYMXer

You can look up the "Coke and asparagus" way of passing kidney stones or add apple cider vinegar to water and drink that until it passes.
Both methods break down the stone into smaller, easily passable pieces.
If you are prone to stones, drink more water and less diuretics like coffee or iced tea.

JanMM

Alcohol can potentiate the effects of opioids like oxycodone but the effect could be dangerous.

crtreedude 

Not all kidney stones pass - or can be broken up by sound. There is a kind called staghorn, which has to be removed by an operation. Usually the result of an infection. (or so I have read)

Good luck with it, hope it is the easy type.

Nikon Fan

Having passed one stone about every two years for the past 51 years of my life I can say with compkete certainty that it is always a painful, miserable experience.

What I normally do whenever I feel one has formed in my kidney is go to my urologist. He sends me to get an exray to determine the size. Based on the size and shape I can predict how painful it will be to pass it. Usually 3 or 4 mm stones are not too terrible. When theyare 5 to 6 mm I know I'll be in for a rough time.

My stones are the calcium types; jagged edges and not easily broken. Pain starts in the kidney, subsides for a few days (sometimes weeks), then starts back up when it moves from the kidney into the ureter.

This stage (passing from kidney to ureter) is by far the worst, especially if it gets stuck. I have been to the ER a few times during this stage. Once the stone drops into your bladder it creates an extreme discomfort; like really having to urinate but not being able to. This miserable feeling can last from a few hours to a few days depending on the stone.

I once had a urologist argue with me telling me it was impossible to feel any pain or discomfort when the kidney stone was in the bladder. I went to him because my kidney stone had been stuck in my bladder for the past 3 days and I had not been able to pass it. He was filling in that day for my regular urologist. After arguing with this young "doctor" for about 30 minutes, I left the office. Next morning I passed the stone. I was so aggravated with his arrogance that I changed to another urologist. I called my urologist and told his staff that I was leaving because I had no faith or respect for my regular urologist's partner. If I were to have a true emergency I would definitely not want this arrogant young doc filling in for my regular doc.

Anyway, back to how to pass kidney stones. If they are small, drink plenty of water and walk/jog/hop on a treadmill as much as you can. Kidney stones usually sit near the bottom/side of your kidney. Gravity, liquids will help push it into your ureter quicker.

Once you pass it try to send it to a lab for analysis. You might need a diet change (low oxcillate foods) or some preventative meds.

Rollfast

If you are dead, it won't matter...


I assume that you were being a smartaleck...

Rollfast

Oh for the daze when girls wouldn't pay attention to us...those problems weren't so bad.

Wildwood 

???

10 Wheels

True.

My Daughter has had 38 stones and all the problems that are involved with them.

Wildwood 

2 days and counting.
4 very painful episodes, and counting.
Yes, on the bit of booze.

10 Wheels

Double Ouch

Wildwood 

My 1st, obviously.
I can not imagine going through this regularly.

FBinNY 

Sounds more like a quarry than a kidney.

10 Wheels

She has had 10 of these,

https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/007113.htm

One Surgery

Been to SEVEN Doctors for help.

Rollfast

About booze and Oxy. Doesn't do anything but make you drunk and sore, I'm sure.

canklecat

I'm sure you're joking but...
Semi-seriously, over the counter dextromethorphan -- an ordinary cough suppressant -- is a potentiate or enhancer for some opiates including oxycodone. This may be less dangerous than using alcohol. However that doesn't mean it's a safe practice. The primary hazard is respiratory depression -- which is already the primary risk with any opiate. However this is potentially less hazardous than the vomiting and consequent aspiration from combining alcohol.

I'm not advocating any of this. Just pointing out the potential co-activity. There's a lot of anecdotal info online. I would suggest that these measures are appropriate to consider only in emergencies where prolonged extreme, severe pain might endanger the sufferer, particularly in they're considering suicide as a means of ending the pain before they can get proper medical attention. If a person is talking about suicide to escape many hours or consecutive days of unrelieved severe pain, and you know they're not usually depressed, self destructive or suicidal, then the lesser of the available evils might be to enhance the available opiates with something like DXM or dextromethorphan, rather than adding alcohol. But this should never be considered if an emergency room is available. It should be considered only in extreme situations where no professional medical care is available within 24 hours.

I hope that's enough weasel words to clarify the intention of sharing this sort of info.

Wildwood 

Guys - The jigger wasn't even full !!!
Relax.

Wildwood 

At 65 and my first stone (so not believing that I'm 'prone') - but I have been drinking more coffee the last few months. Dang Keurig machine is easy!

Dave Cutter

Let's think about this. One of the most common contributions to Kidney Stones... dehydration.

So... wouldn't (forget the Oxy) whiskey just add to the problem?

This is a cycling forum. If your bicycling and depending on coffee for your hydration... ether you haven't sleep in weeks (caffeine)... or you aren't getting nearly enough fluids.

As we age... we often find ourselves restricting our fluid intake to prevent frequent urination or to sleep through the night. In that way we can "make ourselves" more prone to kidney problems... stones includes.

Wildwood 

Good point. My cycling has been dramatically reduced since Oct (very rainy weather) so my hydration rqmts are down significantly and therefore the coffee is a higher % of the total liquids consumed. My routine alcohol intake puts me in the category of 'nearly teetotaler'.

Assuming @Nikon Fan is correct about the worst pain occurring when the stone moves from the kidney to the ureter, that may have occurred Sat. Since then, the pain has been limited to a few periods of moderate gut ache.

Thanks for the replies.

Dave Cutter

It may not be kidney stones at all.