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Finally tried the "other guy".

Old 02-26-17, 03:54 PM
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Finally tried the "other guy".

Not looking to start another Shimano vs Sram debate.

I've been riding Sram since 2011 when I got back into cycling. I did borrow a bike with 105 on it for a group ride where my son went to college. This past Wednesday, i was in Scottsdale, Az. and rented a bike very similar to mine, the major difference was Shimano Ultegra mechanical.

I have a Emonda SLR with Sram Red (mechanical for 2015 and eTap for 2016). The rental was a Emonda SL6 with Ultegra.

The drivetrain was really nice, but the shifters bothered me. I really disliked having to move the brake lever sideways to change gears and the other shifter was a bit hard to find and vague. I also disliked the gap in the hoods where the little shifter needs to move.

I know it's all about personal preference and what you are used to.

Another issue I had with the bike was the saddle. Mine has a Bontrager Paradigm RXXXL while the rental has a Paradigm Race. The rental was way too soft and started to bother me. I also have a Paradigm RL and have no problem with it.

I guess it's all about what your used to and riding another bike can be eye opening.
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Old 02-26-17, 07:38 PM
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When I bought my Ridley Fenix, I test rode one with 105. As I was moving from a vintage with downtube shifting, I didn't like brake lever shifting either.

I ended up with sram force 22, mostly for having a dedicated shift lever.
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Old 02-26-17, 07:59 PM
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I have a steel Marinoni, 1993 vintage, with Campagnolo Record ergopower (first-generation, 9-speed). Finally went carbon in 2012 with a Cervelo R3T with Ultegra. After so many years on Campy I couldn't get used to the Shimano shifting, so I converted the bike over to Campy Chorus. My son is part-owner of a bike shop so I get everything at cost. Fast forward, the Cervelo was always a poor fit. The frame was just one size too big, could never get comfortable on it. I bought it on a whim at an end of season sale. Big mistake.

So I bought a Marinoni Genius carbon last year. And I set it up on Campy Record. I love it. It shifts like it should and it is so comfortable I can do 80 km rides without getting off the bike. On the Cervelo I had to get off every 30 km or so to stretch. I've never ridden SRAM, but I will swear by Campy over Shimano. It just works better for me. The Ultegra certainly shifted butter-smooth, the Campy feels much more, shall we say, "positive" (i.e. a bit more harsh) in action, both equally precise. But I like the shifting better.
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Old 02-27-17, 01:34 PM
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It's what you get used to. I prefer Shimano over SRAM because I like the idea of having the brake lever act as a shift lever. Use it to go up the cogs and the inner paddle to go down the cogs. I also like the idea that moving the lever farther in will move your chain up/down two gears rather than just one. I borrowed a friends bike on a "let's go for a ride" whim when I didn't have my bike with me. I just couldn't get used to not being able to use the brake lever as a shifter. Yes, I missed a lot of shifts that day.
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Old 02-27-17, 02:57 PM
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I have SRAM Red, DuraAce and Campy Super Record 11 sp (all 3 are mechanical). DuraAce is the 7800 version and is buttery smooth, never misses a shift. SRAM Red is very functional and works great. Campy Super Record works fine but needs constant attention with the RD---I have to align the RD "regularly" for it to shirt as it should. I think my Pinarello frame with the Campy is just a fraction off the proper alignment.....

I've avoided trying electronic shifting as I don't want to get spoiled.....I can't afford the upgrade!

I agree that there are benefits to all of them......I mostly ride the Campy and when I jump on another bike my thumbs are constantly looking for the shifter buttons!!
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I will say that the recent debacle with Shimano C35/C50 wheels has left a bad taste in my mouth.
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Old 02-27-17, 03:12 PM
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I definitely liked SRAM's "double tap" shifting, but I have adapted since going back to Shimano (DA 9000) for my recent custom frame.
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I have 2 road bikes with bar-end shifters, 2 with Ultegra 9 spd brifters, and 1 with 9 spd Microshift brifters. They all work perfectly. I will occasionally forget which system I'm using and miss a shift, especially when going from Ultegra to Microshift. But it's no biggie and have, really, no preferences.
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I have Force 1x double tap and Ultegra 6800 and like both. I think I prefer the double tap, it just seems more natural, but I like my Ultegra too. It is a bit of a pain switching between them as I don't do it often (my main ride is now the SRAM).
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Originally Posted by John_V View Post
I also like the idea that moving the lever farther in will move your chain up/down two gears rather than just one.
Sram double tap can move as many as 3 gears with a single push of the single lever.

Again, no right or wrong, just what you're used to.
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Old 02-28-17, 07:46 AM
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While I am riding Ultegra, it's only because I got my Synapse 3 on sale for a bit less than the dealer that had the Synapse 4 (with SRAM). Like an earlier post I was coming from 105 downtube shifters. I like the fact that with SRAM the brake lever is just that, the brake lever. However I quickly adapted to the Shimano style and it does work exceptionally well, plus I really like the conservative styling of my black bike, where the Ultegra 4 (at the time) was white and bright green. That was a bit too much for this over 50 not so fast rider.
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I'm a big fan of SRAM with mechanical Force on my Titanium GT, mechanical Red on my KHS Team (double century bike) and E-Tap wireless electrical on my GURU Photon.

My mountain bike (GT Zaskar) was originally spec'd Shimano but as the Shimano bits wore out I replaced them (everything except the front derailluer so far) with SRAM.

Shimano Exception: My commute bike (Taiwan steel frame) has 8-Speed Shimano STI (one chain-ring only).

Campagnolo Exception: My fixed gear bike ('75 California MASI) is mostly Campagnolo.

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Old 03-01-17, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by kaos joe View Post
I have 2 road bikes with bar-end shifters, 2 with Ultegra 9 spd brifters, and 1 with 9 spd Microshift brifters. They all work perfectly. I will occasionally forget which system I'm using and miss a shift, especially when going from Ultegra to Microshift. But it's no biggie and have, really, no preferences.
For mechanical shift, I still favor downtube control for those who do not mind taking a hand off the bars and barcons for those who do. (I use thumbies on the mountain bike's flat bars.) I really like being able to sweep through any desired number of cogs in back in a single motion.
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I learned one brifter system in '99, and stuck with it.

In the friction world brake levers didn't swivel, mine still don't.
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When I started riding abou 10 years ago I went to my brother for advice since he is an excellent cyclist, and still is. At that time he owned a fishing service on a river so he had several rental boats and rental fishing equipment. He said he could send customers out with any model Shimano reel he had and it would work, no matter how cheap or exspensive. Not true of other brands. He said it is also true in cycling.
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