Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Fifty Plus (50+)
Reload this Page >

Favorite route, loop or out/back ?

Notices
Fifty Plus (50+) Share the victories, challenges, successes and special concerns of bicyclists 50 and older. Especially useful for those entering or reentering bicycling.

Favorite route, loop or out/back ?

Old 02-08-18, 11:36 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
bogydave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: ALASKA , SoCal
Posts: 914

Bikes: /Skye/ Torker mt, Sirrus flat bar

Liked 24 Times in 10 Posts
Favorite route, loop or out/back ?

I try to get my routes to be loops, seems more like a ride than a workout.
Up to 25 miles here I do out & back routes
One guy I ride with , it's just about the workout so we do hard out & back
18 to 22 mile.

I enjoy the loops more, though the shortest one is 32 miles .

My favorite route is a 45 mile loop thru the windmills.

Your favorite route ?
Loop, or out/back
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
IMG_0076.JPG (423.1 KB, 226 views)
File Type: jpg
IMG_0066.jpg (703.8 KB, 223 views)
bogydave is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 12:05 AM
  #2  
In Real Life
 
Machka's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Down under down under
Posts: 52,151

Bikes: Lots

Liked 600 Times in 332 Posts
I don't have a favourite route. I ride as many different routes as I can ... whatever happens to appeal to me at the moment.
Machka is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 12:16 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 39,257

Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter

Liked 3,107 Times in 1,711 Posts
Like Machka, I refer to mix it up with a large variety of rides.

Even on rides that might be more fairly described as out and back, I hate to back track, so I'll return on a parallel course for all but the last mile or two.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 12:53 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Eugene, Oregon
Posts: 7,048
Likes: 0
Liked 9 Times in 8 Posts
I prefer loops, but unless I'm heading out for a century or longer I usually end up with a lollipop. Actually, unless I start my ride in the wee hours, it still ends up a lollipop no matter how long I ride. I do what I can to keep the stem relatively short, but there's just too many zones that aren't a joy to ride in to be able to make loops around here.
B. Carfree is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 01:00 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
rseeker's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Southeast US
Posts: 921
Liked 149 Times in 104 Posts
I definitely prefer loops; the feel of covering new ground (that you weren't just on an hour or two ago) keeps me motivated, like it's more of an exploration.

Dendritic neighborhood roads suck. But out in California where some relatives live, there are gated fire passages out the back of each neighborhood into the next, perfect for walking or squeezing a bike through, and then you don't have to backtrack.

Last edited by rseeker; 02-09-18 at 01:29 AM.
rseeker is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 03:06 AM
  #6  
Me duelen las nalgas
 
canklecat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 13,512

Bikes: Centurion Ironman, Trek 5900, Univega Via Carisma, Globe Carmel

Liked 2,809 Times in 1,804 Posts
Often I have only an hour to hour and a half to ride, so I ride variations of the same 20-30 mile route on the west side of Fort Worth, along the west loop 820 and out toward Aledo and Willow Park. It's a popular area with many of us. Decent roads, not too much traffic, challenging roller coasters. Even on a weeknight I'll often pass another cyclist, or come within Strava fly-by range. On weekend days there may be a dozen or more folks riding out there. On event rides, upward of 100.

Total elevation gain is usually around 1300-1600 feet over that 20-30 mile route. Not a lot but the best we can do in this area.

But that west-east segment along Old Weatherford Road may not be optimal much longer. A large new housing development will bring in more traffic. Already that north-south segment is showing signs of changing traffic habits. It's built like a wide boulevard and while it's intended to be a residential neighborhood, wide boulevards mislead drivers into behaving like they're on a freeway. I've seen it on Bryant Irvin in south Fort Worth, a boulevard that tempts drivers into 65 mph speeds combined with reckless swerving passes through a residential and shopping district. It's an unfortunate reality that drivers need to be psychologically nudged into driving safely through cleverly designed manipulative infrastructure, because they won't do it on their own. Within five years that loop west of town won't be safe for cyclists, so I'm enjoying it now while it lasts.

The route southwest toward Granbury is also popular. It's on my list of places to ride this spring.

The alternate route, toward Fort Worth, is all downhill and even with the return trip it's unusual for a 40-60 mile ride to top even 1,000 feet of climbing. With careful planning it's mostly flat, for folks who dislike hills. I got into the lazy habit of riding that flatter route almost exclusively in early 2016 and my fitness declined pretty badly. I was riding around 400-500 miles a month, but it was pretty easy stuff. So I returned to tackling the more challenging route about once a week.

Climbing is my weakness so about once a week I'll tackle some climbing loops two or three times. Fortunately they're spaced almost ideally for interval training, so hard workout days are a double whammy.

I've moved up from rock bottom of the pack on Strava climbing segments to right around the middle of the pack. That's about as good as it'll get for me. A lighter bike and fancier components might nudge me up a bit but I'm not that worried about it.

My main goal has been to be able to keep up with local club rides on 30-60 mile rides, and to ride solo metric and full centuries within 12 hours without being completely exhausted. I'm still the slug on the local fast club's B-group, but I'm making a little progress.
Attached Images

Last edited by canklecat; 02-09-18 at 03:12 AM.
canklecat is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 08:37 AM
  #7  
tcs
Palmer
 
tcs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 8,737

Bikes: Mike Melton custom, Alex Moulton AM, Dahon Curl

Liked 1,933 Times in 1,113 Posts
I've never minded out&backs. The view is different and the winds & hills are in the other direction.

Recent construction is making a few stretches of this unfun. That little climb at the turnaround will ring your bell.

dallas metric.jpg
tcs is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 08:52 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 40,017
Liked 16,573 Times in 7,763 Posts
I rolled this loop last spring/summer. It was pretty sweet. Thinking about doing a variation of it again, only in September.


https://ridewithgps.com/routes/23235312


Some photos:


https://www.flickr.com/photos/105349...57682904463522
indyfabz is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 08:59 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Maelochs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 15,864

Bikes: 2015 Workswell 066, 2017 Workswell 093, 2014 Dawes Sheila, 1983 Cannondale 500, 1984 Raleigh Olympian, 2007 Cannondale Rize 4, 2017 Fuji Sportif 1 LE

Liked 3,846 Times in 2,014 Posts
Originally Posted by canklecat
Often I have only an hour to hour and a half to ride .... riding around 400-500 miles a month
If you can ride that much in such small doses your fitness is pretty amazing ... for old folks like us ... and particularly given your old injuries. Bravo.

I am in the same situation ... i get time for ten-20 miles at a time ... and in my neighborhood, it is five miles to get to the good roads. So i end up doing tiny variations on the same few general routes. Throw in traffic, and some routes don't work at certain times.

Anyway, i mostly wanted to say, congratulations on your achievements.
Originally Posted by tcs
I've never minded out&backs. The view is different and the winds & hills are in the other direction.
This, also. One can never put one's foot into the same river twice. (However, one can ties of the slowly changing scenery along the riverbank.)

I have mapped about two dozen excellent loops, 25-45 miles or so ... that i never ride any more.

Everything changes, anyway. Who knows what tomorrow will bring?
Maelochs is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 09:18 AM
  #10  
Non omnino gravis
 
DrIsotope's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: SoCal, USA!
Posts: 8,553

Bikes: Nekobasu, Pandicorn, Lakitu

Liked 1,731 Times in 958 Posts
I have probably a dozen out-and-back routes I do regularly, and double that number of loop routes-- so segments I've covered 200+ times.

But my favorite? "The Out." Leave from home or nearby, ride a significant distance in one direction, hop on a train and get a ride home. It brings about a completely different mindset, knowing I won't have to conserve X amount of energy to make the return trip.
__________________
DrIsotope is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 09:35 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
texaspandj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Heart Of Texas
Posts: 4,240

Bikes: '85, '86 , '87 , '88 , '89 Centurion Dave Scott Ironman.

Liked 586 Times in 383 Posts
I always ride out and back. I'm the type that can ride the same route everyday and feel fine about it. But generally I have a 26 mile course that is flat that I'll ride M-F. Then as I get stronger I ride a 30 mile hillier route. But my favorite is the same hiller 30 mile (round trip) out and back extended to 50 miles (round trip) out and back. I start in Cen-Tex and end up in West,Tx before I turn around. Not the region of Texas but the actual town called West.
As I generally consider all my rides training rides, out and back gives me more feedback ie wind,hills, negate themselves and I get a more honest ride and time.

Last edited by texaspandj; 02-09-18 at 11:17 AM.
texaspandj is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 09:52 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
wphamilton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Alpharetta, GA
Posts: 15,279

Bikes: Nashbar Road

Liked 341 Times in 228 Posts
I live right on the Greenway which is about 8 miles end to end, so most often I use it, or part of it, for the out and back portion, before a "loop" on the roads. I have a few favorite loops, that I can stack and merge depending on how good it feels at the moment.

Not always though. In the summer I sometimes like to pick a route from Strava heat-maps almost at random, and just go. There's probably a dozen that I haven't got to yet.
wphamilton is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 10:20 AM
  #13  
Senior Member
 
Bald Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Upstate SC
Posts: 1,765
Liked 1,731 Times in 815 Posts
My favorite route is an out and back, downhill both ways.

I haven't found it yet.

Seriously, though, I prefer loops. On an out and back, every time I'm cruising down a hill, all I can think is "I have to climb this on the way back."
Bald Paul is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 10:28 AM
  #14  
Banned
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: NW,Oregon Coast
Posts: 43,595

Bikes: 8

Liked 1,361 Times in 867 Posts
Im on the western end of a Trans American Continental route, I have not seen anyone using it as a turn around point.
fietsbob is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 10:39 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 29,608

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0

Liked 3,618 Times in 2,365 Posts
some exceptions, but, loops if I'm on the road, out & backs if I'm on unpaved rail trails
rumrunn6 is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 10:41 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
rumrunn6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: 25 miles northwest of Boston
Posts: 29,608

Bikes: Bottecchia Sprint, GT Timberline 29r, Marin Muirwoods 29er, Trek FX Alpha 7.0

Liked 3,618 Times in 2,365 Posts
Originally Posted by indyfabz


Some photos:

nice bald eagle & osprey pics!
rumrunn6 is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 10:43 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
FBOATSB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 2,160
Liked 516 Times in 345 Posts
I must have burned through my wanderlust years ago. I'm more than content riding a few miles out to a circular path where I run laps as long as I want as fast as I want until time to go home the same way. There is another path I have that goes around small lake but it has some blind curves that limits speed. I use the word speed rather loosely.
FBOATSB is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 10:54 AM
  #18  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Bristol, R. I.
Posts: 4,340

Bikes: Specialized Secteur, old Peugeot

Liked 496 Times in 299 Posts
Although the main roads can be busy, there are hundreds of miles of quiet country roads. I prefer to ride loops and luckily, with the many back roads here it is easy to put together many rides of 50 to 100 miles or more. Here, is coastal Rhode Island and SW Massachusetts to near New Bedford Mass so some segments, my favorites, border Buzzards Bay or Block Island Sound. I typically route the ride such that a break or lunch stop is at a beach.

As a boy in high school, I worked on a farm during summer months so I have a soft spot for corn, squash and potato fields. barns and farm animals. I get a warm glow knowing not everyone is pushing paper for a living.
berner is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 10:57 AM
  #19  
It's MY mountain
 
DiabloScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Mt.Diablo
Posts: 10,013

Bikes: Klein, Merckx, Trek

Liked 3,097 Times in 1,672 Posts
I have one ride... the turnaround point is obvious. It's not "out and back", it's "up and down".

DiabloScott is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 11:32 AM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
caloso's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Sacramento, California, USA
Posts: 40,865

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac, Canyon Exceed, Specialized Transition, Ellsworth Roots, Ridley Excalibur

Liked 3,110 Times in 1,418 Posts
I have a route that I wouldn't call a favorite, but I ride it so often that I mark it in Strava and Training Peaks as "the Standard." It's an out and back. I leave my house, ride to the office, drop off my backpack, and ride to "the spot." There I meet my buddy and we do an out and back on the American River Bike Trail. That usually works out to a 2x30' interval set for training purposes. Then we split up and ride to our offices to start our day.

We try to do this ride 3 times a week and it's never the same ride. Different weather, different light, different animals and birds, different political/philosophical arguments.

https://www.strava.com/activities/1249220582

Last edited by caloso; 02-09-18 at 11:40 AM.
caloso is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 11:42 AM
  #21  
Senior Member
 
indyfabz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 40,017
Liked 16,573 Times in 7,763 Posts
Originally Posted by rumrunn6
nice bald eagle & osprey pics!
Thanks. In a couple of areas the osprey were almost as numerous as pigeons. One morning a bird shadow was cast over me and the ground. I looked up to see an osprey with a fish in its talons flying about 10' above my head.


Also seen but not photographed were a doe elk, countless deer, a large, red fox and a hoary marmot. No bears, only several piles of scat in Glacier. In September, during my tour across PA, I saw two black bears, including a huge one that was staring at me from maybe 20' away as I was about to put on my helmet and turn on my lights before leaving a campground early one morning. Quite an unnerving experience.
indyfabz is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 12:06 PM
  #22  
your god hates me
 
Bob Ross's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,615

Bikes: 2016 Richard Sachs, 2010 Carl Strong, 2006 Cannondale Synapse

Liked 1,353 Times in 739 Posts
Originally Posted by bogydave
Loop, or out/back
I'm not sure it ever occurred to me to differentiate between the two; isn't an Out & Back just an oblong loop with two long sides and a very narrow apex?
Bob Ross is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 12:10 PM
  #23  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: New Rochelle, NY
Posts: 39,257

Bikes: too many bikes from 1967 10s (5x2)Frejus to a Sumitomo Ti/Chorus aluminum 10s (10x2), plus one non-susp mtn bike I use as my commuter

Liked 3,107 Times in 1,711 Posts
Originally Posted by Bob Ross
I'm not sure it ever occurred to me to differentiate between the two; isn't an Out & Back just an oblong loop with two long sides and a very narrow apex?
As used by most, "out and back" implies riding out to a destination r turn around point, and returning by the same route. This is different from a loop which imlies little to no backtracking, though the loop might in fact be a long narrow pair of parallels connected at the far end.
__________________
FB
Chain-L site

An ounce of diagnosis is worth a pound of cure.

Just because I'm tired of arguing, doesn't mean you're right.

“One accurate measurement is worth a thousand expert opinions” - Adm Grace Murray Hopper - USN

WARNING, I'm from New York. Thin skinned people should maintain safe distance.
FBinNY is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 12:18 PM
  #24  
your god hates me
 
Bob Ross's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,615

Bikes: 2016 Richard Sachs, 2010 Carl Strong, 2006 Cannondale Synapse

Liked 1,353 Times in 739 Posts
Originally Posted by FBinNY
As used by most, "out and back" implies riding out to a destination r turn around point, and returning by the same route. This is different from a loop which imlies little to no backtracking, though the loop might in fact be a long narrow pair of parallels connected at the far end.
Ah, okay, got it. Yeah, my favorite routes are definitely loops ...although out of necessity there is almost always some duplication/backtracking.
Bob Ross is offline  
Old 02-09-18, 12:54 PM
  #25  
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I usually do out and back. My main out and back is 15 miles. So I do multiples of 15. I do 15, 30, 45, 60, 75, 90 (or stretch it to 100 if I am already doing 90) miles. My main ride being 30.

That way I keep bottles of water or recovery drinks at my truck and get fresh bottles every 15 miles without having to carry it all with me.

That is for road biking, not mountain biking, of course.
GoMtnBiking is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.