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Old 06-19-18, 01:31 PM
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Older gent looking for first "modern" road bike on modest budget

Being that the Nigel Dean World Tour is being repaired (my fault, went for a gap that was not really there) I started thinking about getting a cheapo spare. A short foray through my local Craigslist showed me that many used bikes out there at the ~ $120 level were basically either overpriced junk or needed so much work you would easily double the outlay. out of curiosity went to my other LBS and saw a Trek Domane Al 2 - could not believe how light it was (fell in love a bit) but there are other options at around the same price (~ $650 - $800 plus tax) , Giant Contend 3, Marin Argento (not comp) - all seem to have similar components but hard to find many detailed reviews on them.

Don't really want to spend more than $800 (it will be my wife's bday present for the big 60) and considered Jamis Ventura but did see some concerns about the wheels ?. I'm 59 about 189cm tall and 228 lbs and getting back into cycling after many years of laziness, main purpose of bike is fitness. Would be happy to hear any personal experience with any of the above.
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If the bike is for your wife you might want to take her to the bike shop and let her test ride and choose. Nothing like the wrong surprise for her birthday.
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oops wrong way around..

Sorry... I did not explain it properly, it will (if it is not too expensive) be my Missuses present to me on the occasion of my 60th birthday.. my bad, hence not wanting to be too extravagant
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Im the 70 year old helping at the bike shop part time, here..

drop by your local,

decent bikes don't cost much, the manufacturing automation get well functioning parts , down in cost.

And the shop will get you fixed up with the right size . and take care of you after the sale..
service is part of the deal..
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...out of curiosity went to my other LBS and saw a Trek Domane Al 2 - could not believe how light it was (fell in love a bit) .

This is a good bike at a good price. If your LBS was helpful you will be very happy your wife bought it for you.
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Test ride as many as you are able...that said, I like the Domane isospeed frame.
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I would look for a good used machine. The most important feature is whether it fits you comfortably. If you are concerned about reliability and maintainability of wheels, hold out for good old-fashioned 32 or 36 spokes per wheel, in a traditional cross-laced pattern.
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Test ride as many as you are able.....
Yes!! Visit a few bikes shops and look at and test ride as many brands and models as you like. The shop owner/manager can suggest bikes based on the info you give about budget, how often you'll ride, how far you'll ride, any health concerns, etc.
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You are taller than I am and it's very rare that I can find a bike in my size at a bike store. I'm not super flexible so I like larger frames, 62,63, depending on top tube length. For decades I have bought all my bikes as frames and built them with the gearing and wheels I want, except for 1 used bike.
If one of those bikes seems to fit you can upgrade the wheels later. You can get hand built 32 or 36 spoke wheels reasonably cheap. The key is the builder and how much care he puts into them. Take it from a guy who has destroyed many wheels over the years.
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Months after I bought my last bike, a friend told me that he picked up a great road bike at a great discount at a pawnshop! It turns out that after the big MS150 race from Houston to Austin, a lot of people want to get rid of the expensive bikes real quick, so they pawn them!

Always do your due dilligence to ensure that the bike is not stolen, but I can see how somebody can get a bike in this way without laying out a whole lot of cash...
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Another way to look at it is you can buy the most expensive bike you can afford, but the engine is still old, and can only do so much!
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800 dollars will buy a very very very nice previously owned road bike. Some searching on CL and I bet you can get a 10 speed Dura Ace bike for that kind of money. Where are you. We love shopping for bikes.
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800 dollars will buy a very very very nice previously owned road bike. Some searching on CL and I bet you can get a 10 speed Dura Ace bike for that kind of money. Where are you. We love shopping for bikes.
I'm in the Philadelphia suburbs joyfully called the mainline. I have trawled the local Craigslist, not too much joy so far (saw several badly adjusted and overpriced clunkers) plus Facebook marketplace. I've test rode (ridden) a Fuji Sportif 2.1 (2016) and a couple of new Giants (Contend 1 and 3) today, they were (all 3 ) a world different from the bikes I grew up with in the 70s - all 3 were very nice to my unrefined state, light and responsive and with brilliant brakes even with the crappy engine. Slightly preferred the Fuji. Planning to try out the Trek Domane and possibly a Marin Argenta in the next few days ( we have a lot of bike stores in my manor...)
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Another way to look at it is you can buy the most expensive bike you can afford, but the engine is still old, and can only do so much!
Indeed!

I originally got back on the bike just to get fit again ( a means to an end) and was thinking that if I can just improve my performance on my relatively heavy tourer that will be sufficient, then I started getting a bit obsessive , still along with careful eating I've dropped 10lbs in just over a month and feel better than I have done in many a year... apart from the nocturnal leg cramps
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Test ride them all and buy the one that fits and you like the most. Yes, you can get a better used bike, but if you get new you don't have to worry about replacing components (chainrings, cassette, chain, brake shoes, etc.) and any tuneup you may need.

I typically buy used, but you need to know what to look for and be prepared to make any adjustments. I also work on my own bikes.

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Check this out. He says it's a 62.
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/...602215785.html
If you considered 80s road bikes there are several beauties at low prices. If downtube shifters were ok while you ride into shape, they are great candidates to modernize.

This is sweet!
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/...606017993.html

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Check this out. He says it's a 62.

If you considered 80s road bikes there are several beauties at low prices. If downtube shifters were ok while you ride into shape, they are great candidates to modernize.

This is sweet!
I met the seller of the Trek but did not view the Trek, seller sells many bikes, has about 16 for sale at present. Trek was out of my budget when I went to see a Fuji and a Zebra the chap was selling.
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Reynolds 520 frame, 105 triple group, $699

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Reynolds 520 frame, 105 triple group, $699
I have looked at BD , they do have some very nice prices indeed, but I'm starting to lean towards getting something from the LBS
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I have looked at BD , they do have some very nice prices indeed, but I'm starting to lean towards getting something from the LBS
Any LBS I've been in won't have much under $800, especially after tax. Certainly nothing with a 105 group. If you have a Specialized dealer then one bike you might like is the base Specialized Allez. Specialized bikes have pretty good MSRP's compared to the other big brands.

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Any LBS I've been in won't have much under $800, especially after tax. Certainly nothing with a 105 group. If you have a Specialized dealer then one bike you might like is the base Specialized Allez. Specialized bikes have pretty good MSRP's compared to the other big brands.
Just tested an Allez (base model) on the Schuylkill trail, very nice indeed, shifting was decent, just so very different from the Nigel Dean. So far all the bikes I've tried (Fuji Sportif 2.1, Giant Contend 1 & 3 , Specialized Allez) have been extremely nice experiences , to me gauging a preference here is a bit like asking if you prefer a Ferrari or a Lamborghini when you are used to driving a bog standard Japanese hatchback(which I do) - two more to try I think (Marin Argenta and Trek Domane 2), two good things emerged : 1. I now know that I need a 58 not a 60 (I'm tall but have relatively short legs and long back) on a modern bike and 2 I've found a nice bike trail
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: 1. I now know that I need a 58 not a 60 (I'm tall but have relatively short legs and long back) on a modern bike l
Remember 2 bikes from different companies may fit differently even though they are listed as the same size. Top tube length, for example, may be different on 2 bikes called "58". Also, lots of so called "compact" frames (sloping top tube) are sold as small, medium, large, etc. to further confuse the fit thing. Look at all of the numbers, not just the listed (seat tube) size.
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Remember 2 bikes from different companies may fit differently even though they are listed as the same size. Top tube length, for example, may be different on 2 bikes called "58". Also, lots of so called "compact" frames (sloping top tube) are sold as small, medium, large, etc. to further confuse the fit thing. Look at all of the numbers, not just the listed (seat tube) size.
Thanks for the input. So far all the bikes I've tested have been 58cm and been a decent fit, though one shop has a "fit service" which I might use. I'm short in the leg and long in the back. Good news though the Nigel Dean got fixed and is back in service and I scored a nice replica vintage shirt, sadly it does not make me go any faster

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I should think a jersey like Eddie Merckx wore would be worth at least a couple mph!
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That's a pretty cool bike. Your saddle and bar tape are slowing you down
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