The older I get the less I care
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not really old lol so I am a newbie to 50+ I always related better to the older crowd even when I was 20-40 yes I understand the people that were 25 years old when I was born back in 1968 that I知 still a puppy. I知 just preparing to hopefully have a healthy fit existence for here on out.
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Hondo, you know how close I came to dying this year in a workplace accident.
Yeah, there were a few things in my life that I didn't care about since my mid to late 30s. But after the incident last March, I care a much more about my health, thinking about the safety level of the things I might be thinking of doing, and above all else, thinking positively about the people who saved my life, and/or expressed their care and attention, and are still active in their efforts..
My wife, Machka, fits most of all in that entirely.
There always will be the selfish, self-centred few who exist and make themselves known to me in a negative way, but they oddly have virtually no influence over what I think about staying alive, or my return to a comparatively normal life.
And take it from me... your and other 50+ forum members' postings in Machka's post on me has (a) generated huge respect for others' expressions about my welfare and health, and (b) been hugely valuable to me in giving me reason for surviving (with cycling as the truly fundamental part of my life after Machka).
Yeah, there were a few things in my life that I didn't care about since my mid to late 30s. But after the incident last March, I care a much more about my health, thinking about the safety level of the things I might be thinking of doing, and above all else, thinking positively about the people who saved my life, and/or expressed their care and attention, and are still active in their efforts..
My wife, Machka, fits most of all in that entirely.
There always will be the selfish, self-centred few who exist and make themselves known to me in a negative way, but they oddly have virtually no influence over what I think about staying alive, or my return to a comparatively normal life.
And take it from me... your and other 50+ forum members' postings in Machka's post on me has (a) generated huge respect for others' expressions about my welfare and health, and (b) been hugely valuable to me in giving me reason for surviving (with cycling as the truly fundamental part of my life after Machka).
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Only now do I realize how much nonsense older people give out. Especially those that claim they don't care. Either you're not saying what you mean or just being disingenuous.
More likely just given up trying. Most people stop maturing at 16. Sure they learn more stuff, but not how to apply it to become better people. After that, they just get older. Its like our technological developments. They get more advancements but we don't.
Even the poorest of us is much better off than our ancestors were back then. But Is there any wonder mankind is just as selfish today as he was 1000 years ago, and 1000 years before that. He's still emotionally 16.
By the age of 50
most have figured out what’s important
...
the rest of the stuff ...
we don’t waste much time thinking or caring about it
at 60, there’s some adjustments made
Retirement refines it some more
Then
Expect subtle changes to continually occur.
?what was the question?
most have figured out what’s important
...
the rest of the stuff ...
we don’t waste much time thinking or caring about it
at 60, there’s some adjustments made
Retirement refines it some more
Then
Expect subtle changes to continually occur.
?what was the question?
Even the poorest of us is much better off than our ancestors were back then. But Is there any wonder mankind is just as selfish today as he was 1000 years ago, and 1000 years before that. He's still emotionally 16.
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Caring
I just turned 80 and was thinking about the comments on this subject and ......sorry, forgot what I wanted to write. Maybe nobody will care
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Spot on today's world
Holy . . . I think you nailed it. I'm printing this off b/c too much of today is extremes. We have to have empathy whether we agree with them or not. Listen & learn - we can all make up our own minds, but a closed system never grows.
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If by "don't care" you mean different priorities, that's a normal part of aging.
At 61, having spent much of the past 20 years as a caregiver for three successive older family members until they died, I've watched the effects of aging and, now, am experiencing it firsthand.
I used to joke that old people drove recklessly, carelessly or indifferently because their attitude was "I'm old, dammit, get outta my way. I don't care anymore!" Actually it turned out most of them simply have diminished vision, reflexes, and situational awareness.
But it doesn't affect everyone the same. For example, there's a bit of conventional wisdom tossed around the media and pop culture that claims most people become more "conservative" with age. That hasn't been my experience at all. They do tend to become more intolerant. But that doesn't indicate anything about their views on politics, the economy, religion, etc.
Some of my friends my age and older, including a couple I've known since college, range from extreme right to extreme left. What they share is the same intolerance for opposing views. They aren't interested in conversations or persuasion, only in shoving their opinions at everyone else. On Facebook they just meme at each other, posting a dozen or more times a day, all extremist right or left articles, images, etc.
A few folks are still very tolerant and moderate in views, but they don't express themselves often. In part that's because our acquaintances who hold extreme left or right views tend to regard with mistrust or contempt anyone who has a moderate or balanced perspective. So I tend to avoid conversations or debates with some of my acquaintances because their attitude is usually "My way or the highway. Disagree in the slightest tiny detail and I'll unfriend you."
So in that regard they care. They care about their own perspective and no one else's. They don't care about other people's differing or nuanced perspectives or experiences. They've lost some capacity for empathy. I've watched it happen gradually over the past decade. It's not just due to social media or pop culture or anything else. They've gotten older and, facing imminent mortality, they feel there's no time to waste on anyone or anything who doesn't meet their standards and demands. They care. They just don't care about you.
Retaining a sense of empathy, compassion or a moderate and flexible perspective takes a lot of effort. It's harder to hold onto as we see death around us, experience the effects of aging -- less energy, chronic pain, diminishing physical functions -- and see others committing the same mistakes we made when we were younger.
Caring is a PITA. It means I can't just drag rude and reckless drivers out of their vehicles after they've nearly killed me and beat them like pinatas until the candy spills out. It means we have to show equal regard for deaths of loved ones of friends as we do for births, despite not having the right words to offer in a show of compassion. It's easier to find something to be angry about as a distraction, because it feeds our brain chemical triggers that invigorate us and make us feel alive. We rarely feel more alive than when we're under the sway of righteous indignation.
At 61, having spent much of the past 20 years as a caregiver for three successive older family members until they died, I've watched the effects of aging and, now, am experiencing it firsthand.
I used to joke that old people drove recklessly, carelessly or indifferently because their attitude was "I'm old, dammit, get outta my way. I don't care anymore!" Actually it turned out most of them simply have diminished vision, reflexes, and situational awareness.
But it doesn't affect everyone the same. For example, there's a bit of conventional wisdom tossed around the media and pop culture that claims most people become more "conservative" with age. That hasn't been my experience at all. They do tend to become more intolerant. But that doesn't indicate anything about their views on politics, the economy, religion, etc.
Some of my friends my age and older, including a couple I've known since college, range from extreme right to extreme left. What they share is the same intolerance for opposing views. They aren't interested in conversations or persuasion, only in shoving their opinions at everyone else. On Facebook they just meme at each other, posting a dozen or more times a day, all extremist right or left articles, images, etc.
A few folks are still very tolerant and moderate in views, but they don't express themselves often. In part that's because our acquaintances who hold extreme left or right views tend to regard with mistrust or contempt anyone who has a moderate or balanced perspective. So I tend to avoid conversations or debates with some of my acquaintances because their attitude is usually "My way or the highway. Disagree in the slightest tiny detail and I'll unfriend you."
So in that regard they care. They care about their own perspective and no one else's. They don't care about other people's differing or nuanced perspectives or experiences. They've lost some capacity for empathy. I've watched it happen gradually over the past decade. It's not just due to social media or pop culture or anything else. They've gotten older and, facing imminent mortality, they feel there's no time to waste on anyone or anything who doesn't meet their standards and demands. They care. They just don't care about you.
Retaining a sense of empathy, compassion or a moderate and flexible perspective takes a lot of effort. It's harder to hold onto as we see death around us, experience the effects of aging -- less energy, chronic pain, diminishing physical functions -- and see others committing the same mistakes we made when we were younger.
Caring is a PITA. It means I can't just drag rude and reckless drivers out of their vehicles after they've nearly killed me and beat them like pinatas until the candy spills out. It means we have to show equal regard for deaths of loved ones of friends as we do for births, despite not having the right words to offer in a show of compassion. It's easier to find something to be angry about as a distraction, because it feeds our brain chemical triggers that invigorate us and make us feel alive. We rarely feel more alive than when we're under the sway of righteous indignation.
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I think as you get older, you care more about what's import to you, and you start to care less about the stuff that isn't, along with the things you have no control over anyway.
When I find I'm bothered by the days events, I go ride, or hit the gym and lift it out of me.
When I find I'm bothered by the days events, I go ride, or hit the gym and lift it out of me.
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I stopped caring when I was pretty young. I realized early on that people fail to consider the consequence of their actions. Myself included. We often merely push forward in some awkward social competition where the outcome doesn't really mean anything of value. So what do you do for fun when the people you know are good but they keep putting themselves into failure loops? Or their beliefs are out of touch with the reality in which they live? You seek out an activity where you're with those you really care about but may not have a parity of stuff to bring to the proverbial table of conversation. You ride motorcycles.
And when the idiots who can't put their cell phones down long enough to drive without crossing center lines or fog lines cross your threshold of tolerance, you trade those motorcycles for a highly visible truck. Because then at least these fools won't kill you.
Somewhere along the timeline between trading motorized two wheelers for human powered two wheelers I had a pretty good bout of cancer. But death never was a personal fear of mine. It's once you have a family that things begin to change. You're living for others more than you are for yourself. So you want to live for those who matter to you and because you matter to them. Your life really isn't yours anymore. And what you do care about changes. Or, I should say, you begin to care about things. You realize family is the most important entity you can care about and opinions, not so much. Not that opinions ever meant that much even though we like to think ours are "new and improved". (My personal inner circle is partly comprised of people who vehemently oppose my political views yet we have been there for each other in the worst of times.)
I think an irony might be when a person decides he or she stops caring and then discovers a hole in their life. A vacuum. Ya can't let that exist and fester. Humans seem predisposed to care about something. Apathy can lead to narcissism if the will is stronger than the conscience.
more to say, gotta run
And when the idiots who can't put their cell phones down long enough to drive without crossing center lines or fog lines cross your threshold of tolerance, you trade those motorcycles for a highly visible truck. Because then at least these fools won't kill you.
Somewhere along the timeline between trading motorized two wheelers for human powered two wheelers I had a pretty good bout of cancer. But death never was a personal fear of mine. It's once you have a family that things begin to change. You're living for others more than you are for yourself. So you want to live for those who matter to you and because you matter to them. Your life really isn't yours anymore. And what you do care about changes. Or, I should say, you begin to care about things. You realize family is the most important entity you can care about and opinions, not so much. Not that opinions ever meant that much even though we like to think ours are "new and improved". (My personal inner circle is partly comprised of people who vehemently oppose my political views yet we have been there for each other in the worst of times.)
I think an irony might be when a person decides he or she stops caring and then discovers a hole in their life. A vacuum. Ya can't let that exist and fester. Humans seem predisposed to care about something. Apathy can lead to narcissism if the will is stronger than the conscience.
more to say, gotta run
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I'd respond to all this ... but OP wouldn't care.
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Nobody cares what I think.
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I made a promise back then to never stop leaning, and that's a promise I can say I've kept up to this point. If you think nobody cares then you're not surrounding yourself with the right type of people.
With age comes knowledge and wisdom, and anyone around you would be foolish not to listen. I did listen to my elders, but still sometimes wish I had listened more.
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Yo Hondo, I'm thinkin' it's time for a new girlfriend, right?
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Robert Palmer has great hair.
But I don't care.
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But I don't care.
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Robert Palmer is almost certainly over 50 by now ... doubt he cares.
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Robert Palmer dead at 54 in 2003 I thought he was still alive.
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Exactly what is it you stop caring about? Self? Family? People? Global warming? The state of the Union? I know once a man gets married he stops caring about how he looks, regardless of age.
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EVERYTHING I do care about my bikes functioning properly so I keep them tuned up.
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Yes, it was a bit of a surprise to hear at the time, but I am one of those who thinks his music was good enough to continue hearing despite him no longer being around. Same with a few others like John Lennon and George Harrison.
Outside the general thrust of the thread, there have been deaths of people I know personally, including one last week and another several months ago both involved in cycling (although not the cause of their departure), to make me care a little more rather than less.
And while the behaviour of some young people I have seen recently means less care about their own personal futures, I have seen plenty of good ones --including nursing staff and some other workers, and bus travellers who can thank the driver as they get off -- who deserve care and thought from me about what they do.
Outside the general thrust of the thread, there have been deaths of people I know personally, including one last week and another several months ago both involved in cycling (although not the cause of their departure), to make me care a little more rather than less.
And while the behaviour of some young people I have seen recently means less care about their own personal futures, I have seen plenty of good ones --including nursing staff and some other workers, and bus travellers who can thank the driver as they get off -- who deserve care and thought from me about what they do.
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I remember back in 1986 when the video for the song Sledgehammer came out and at that time it was the best music video ever made and probably still is today IMO.
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At 67, I care less about things I should care about, even less than things I need to care about, and not at all regarding things some others around me care about.