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Yes! Study shows that for those over 50, the more you ride, the longer you'll live

Old 09-19-19, 11:15 AM
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Yes! Study shows that for those over 50, the more you ride, the longer you'll live

Of course we all knew that already, but still . . .
https://trainright.com/middle-aged-a...years-to-life/
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Yay! I like this study!

(Is this an instance of confirmation bias?)
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Same for leisure running, and in fact cardiovascular fitness has the predominate correlation for reducing all-cause mortality and risk of cardio disease mortality. I would caution though that more is not necessarily better, or at least not a lot better. The benefits seem to taper off after around 2-2.5 hours per week of moderate or harder aerobic exercise.
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Is playing a saxophone considered aerobic?
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sounds good
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So if you stay healthy you'll live longer. Who knew?
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Yup some people I know can’t even ride a bike a few hundred yards without hyperventilating. Then proceed to tell me about how to eat and workout. I believe keeping the cardiovascular system in good shape will add some years to life.
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Good to know that the more I ride the longer I'll have to live with my cancer.
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Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
Same for leisure running, and in fact cardiovascular fitness has the predominate correlation for reducing all-cause mortality and risk of cardio disease mortality. I would caution though that more is not necessarily better, or at least not a lot better. The benefits seem to taper off after around 2-2.5 hours per week of moderate or harder aerobic exercise.
I would like to know more about this, can you point me to a source?
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I would like to know more about this, can you point me to a source?
I'm going by recollection, but google "running CVD" and it should pop up several. What that won't show up are the commonalities with cycling, which is what lead me to abstract out the "cardio-vascular fitness" that keeps popping up as the major correlating factor. That's not the same as "more healthy" by the way, but it does correlate with better health.
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You might fall into the center of the bell curve or you might break your neck tomorrow.

Live as if the latter will happen, not the former.

Be nice to people beneath you, especially the least and the lowest. Go to confession. Remember that a bicycle won’t sit at your bedside when you are dying. Work hard. Sleep well. Enjoy life. Get out and see the world because it is damn beautiful out there.

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You might fall into the center of the bell curve or you might break your neck tomorrow.

Live as if the latter will happen, not the former.

Be nice to people beneath you, especially the least and the lowest. Go to confession. Remember that a bicycle won’t sit at your bedside when you are dying. Work hard. Sleep well. Enjoy life. Get out and see the world because it is damn beautiful out there.

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Originally Posted by wphamilton View Post
I'm going by recollection, but google "running CVD" and it should pop up several. What that won't show up are the commonalities with cycling, which is what lead me to abstract out the "cardio-vascular fitness" that keeps popping up as the major correlating factor. That's not the same as "more healthy" by the way, but it does correlate with better health.
Thank you, will do. Just a matter of curiosity on my part.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH View Post
You might fall into the center of the bell curve or you might break your neck tomorrow.

Live as if the latter will happen, not the former.

Be nice to people beneath you, especially the least and the lowest. Go to confession. Remember that a bicycle won’t sit at your bedside when you are dying. Work hard. Sleep well. Enjoy life. Get out and see the world because it is damn beautiful out there.

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Isn’t that what the bikes are for?
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Isn’t that what the bikes are for?
Especially gravel bikes...
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I ran across this article last year. It makes quite a case for exercising as you age. The more the better according the study.

Conclusions
Increased CRF was associated with reduced long-term mortality with no observed upper limit of benefit. The adjusted mortality risk of reduced CRF was greater than or equal to traditional clinical risk factors, such as cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and smoking. Extreme aerobic fitness (CRF ≥2 SDs above the mean for age and sex) was associated with the greatest survival and was notably beneficial in older patients and those with hypertension. Cardiorespiratory fitness is a modifiable indicator of long-term mortality, and health care professionals should encourage patients to achieve and maintain high levels of fitness.
CNN Article - Not exercising worse for your health than smoking, diabetes and heart disease, study reveals

The actual JAMA study
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I don't know if this can be proven rigorously, but it is pretty self evident that you will live as long as you keep riding. So if I copy my mom and ride until I am 86, I will live at least another 20 years. (My mom went another 5.) In that context, riding seems like a no-brainer.

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I just want to get back to riding regularly again. So I can live longer. So I can ride more. So I can live longer . . .

My knee is feeling good, but lots of work at the job and at the house over the last few weeks. Plus all this dang rain this week.

I'm hoping for some riding Saturday morning before the chores start up again.
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Yeah. So my wife and I returned from our annual 10-day unsupported backpack a week ago. I went in with 55 lbs., she with 45. We had a great time even though it rained a lot. My CTL went up 14 pts. in those 10 days. Hers went up 26. That's what we do about the inhaling beauty thing. One of my favorite things is sitting and chanting while I purify water from whatever source. Sounds goofy but it's nice.

I'm trying to get back into riding shape, so today I did an hour of VT1 on my rollers then went to the gym and lifted for an hour, 1' between sets. That was all good. Interesting thing - trying to do VT1 was weird. We'd spent most of that 10 days between 5000' and 7500' and we live at sea level. I couldn't achieve VT1 without going up into zone 3 with power, so I didn't, staying at the top of Z2. My hematocrit must have already gone up or what? I didn't think RBCs matured that quickly. Anyway I feel really good. Legs hurt a bit from the unaccustomed exercise is all, and all to the good IME. 3 mile run tomorrow. My wife's still a little tired, so she canned a year's worth of ketchup today. We try to eat a natural foods diet.

It really does work.

As noted in the caveats above, I don't do a lot of really hard intervals anymore. Lots of steady state Z4, but not much above. We've had some riders age out earlier than they should have, my thinking being that maybe they went a little too hard, too often, for too many years. It's not necessary to get that last 5% unless one is competing. IMHO. 74 y.o., wife 70.
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Is playing a saxophone considered aerobic?
If you play like Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Archie Shepp, Marshall Allen, Sonny Rollins, Wayne Shorter, Art Pepper, Eddie Davis, Albert Ayler, Cannonball, Johnny Griffin or Dexter Gordon...YES!

If you play like Lester Young, Coleman Hawkins, Stan Getz, Joe Henderson, Al Cohn or most of the West Coast cats... NO!
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So if you stay healthy you'll live longer. Who knew?
Next thing you know they will be talking about eating healthy food.
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Heard that before, and a firm believer that most exercise done regularly will help you live longer. My choice would be cycling, so I like the study's conclusion. I've also heard that married people live longer--but that some say it just feels like it!!
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good genes & diet don't hurt. my Dad is 92 & I never saw him on a bike. he had a desk job his whole life but he brought us up hiking, mountaineering & light rock climbing on the weekends. in cold weather we built a small fire for lunchtime. he loves going in the ocean but wasn't really a swimmer. Mom is 89 & still shops & cooks for them both. they still live in the house I grew up in; laundry in the basement & bedrooms on the 2nd floor. my Dad recently told me he has no money to leave me, only longevity. hope he's right!
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If you play like Coltrane, Charlie Parker, Archie Shepp, Marshall Allen, Sonny Rollins, Wayne Shorter, Art Pepper, Eddie Davis, Albert Ayler, Cannonball, Johnny Griffin or Dexter Gordon...YES!

If you play like Lester Young, Coleman Hawkins, Stan Getz, Joe Henderson, Al Cohn or most of the West Coast cats... NO!
I'm more from the Bill Clinton school.
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I'm more from the Bill Clinton school.
In that case, I would advise you watch out for the interns.
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