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Old 10-27-19, 06:39 AM
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Robotic painting of a bicycle frame

Last week I was invited back to an open house at the robotics firm that I retired from 11 years ago. One demo that caught my eye was of one of our paint robots simulating painting a bicycle frame.


I worked almost exclusively on auto-related products (and they are still the leader in automotive welding and painting in North America at least), but they have branched out into a lot of other industries. Maybe having Trek as a customer is why I noticed the beautiful clearcoated metallic gray paint job on my wife's Verve+ eBike that she got this year!

Hmm... Wonder if some of my software is still humming away in those controllers?
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Old 10-27-19, 07:29 AM
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I guess programming the robots to hum is good for moral.
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Old 10-27-19, 08:24 AM
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I have to imagine that the controller computers are shielded and away from the robot in the real world to protect them from paint blowback.
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Old 10-27-19, 09:53 AM
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Neat video, although I'd like to see it also applying stencils and airbrushing accents.
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When I've painted frames, I've usually done the rear triangle first before moving to the main triangle - pretty much back to front. The motion used by the robot looks like a much better sequence to use, though it would be tough to match that speed. Perhaps if I had an assistant rotating the frame.

Thanks for posting.
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Toured Ford's Rouge factory this past summer. The robots were working at a furious pace and - I guess thanks to the security goons - I couldn't even get them to look up from their work, much less take a robot union pamphlet.
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To quote Arthur C. Clarke, "Humans are an inevitable development in the evolution of the computer".
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Originally Posted by CliffordK View Post
Neat video, although I'd like to see it also applying stencils and airbrushing accents.
i have heard that the project one custom paint jobs are done by hand. a former co-worker, i work in a body shop, applied for this job 4 years ago.
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Was the clear coat going on? I didn't see anything change color, and the TREK didn't get painted over.

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Old 10-29-19, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by _ForceD_ View Post
Was the clear coat going on? I didn't see anything change color, and the TREK didn't get painted over.

Dan
There was no paint involved -- it was just using a light beam to illustrate the spray pattern.
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Old 11-01-19, 12:48 PM
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Curiously enough, the last frame I painted with a rattle can followed the same path of application the robot took.
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Originally Posted by DougG View Post
Last week I was invited back to an open house at the robotics firm that I retired from 11 years ago. One demo that caught my eye was of one of our paint robots simulating painting a bicycle frame.

Painting a bike frame

I worked almost exclusively on auto-related products (and they are still the leader in automotive welding and painting in North America at least), but they have branched out into a lot of other industries. Maybe having Trek as a customer is why I noticed the beautiful clearcoated metallic gray paint job on my wife's Verve+ eBike that she got this year!

Hmm... Wonder if some of my software is still humming away in those controllers?
I went for training at ABB about 15 years ago. It was a gantry unit with a vacuum tool end. The training was pretty neat. But I learned one thing: If you aren't trained, leave it alone. Crashing one gets expensive and having a unit down is not where you want to be.
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Old 11-10-19, 08:26 PM
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I still prefer the manual paint jobs. Just seems like more care is put into the job...


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Old 11-11-19, 09:30 AM
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I still prefer the manual paint jobs. Just seems like more care is put into the job...


With an arc welder attached to the street guy, could they powder coat?
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