New bike at 70?
02-09-21, 09:53 AM
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These rambling obsessive musings are not foreign here but that doesn’t make them any less self indulgent. Fair warning.
I’m 69, but will likely be 70 on arrival if I go for it.
I’m a roadie. I might ride the gravel grinder when snow melt and cinders are to be encountered on winter roads here in PA, but my steady companion is a 28 yr old Merlin Titanium. I bought it new with an aluminum fork that I thought I’d upgrade to carbon fiber but never did. The original Campy Ergo 8 speed was replaced with Campy Chorus 12 that I’m very happy with. I love this bike and from what a I can tell, I’m getting a great ride (not having ridden a modern road bike I don’t have a frame of reference...if that matters).
Me. Cycling was it for me until I met flyfishing. But after many year’s hiatus I am back to riding 6 days most weeks. I ride outside as often as possible (22 degrees is my coldest so far) and ride on a Wahoo when dark (still working) or in inclement weather. I’m averaging 165 mi/week, more in warm seasons. I love big hills and for the most part a B or B+ rider. Once a mediocre racer.
My dilemma. I’m limited to 23mm tires due to frame spacing...front and rear. Winter shifting is difficult when my fingers go numb. The only electronic shift that is compatible with this bike is sram Bluetooth, so that upgrade is expensively available. I suppose electric shifting is easier but I’m not educated enough about that to be certain. The aluminum fork, the weak part of the bike....well one mechanic marveled at its longevity. And what about the inability to run disc brakes? Clearly, I can continue to ride this loving companion (ok, it is a heartless object) until one of us wears out or breaks down. Or I can have stainless steel Tommassini built with disc brake e shifters.... and shed a little weight in the process (dropping from 185 to 149 this year was the better way). Really don’t have a grail bike in mind...a few dance through my head at times.
A new bike is not a financial reach but nor is it a charitable donation or a gift to my wife. How many years can I get out of it? Will a modern bike make riding safer, easier, or it’s rider happier?
I know, to be blessed with dilemma of this magnitude, shame on me. Best to all.
I’m 69, but will likely be 70 on arrival if I go for it.
I’m a roadie. I might ride the gravel grinder when snow melt and cinders are to be encountered on winter roads here in PA, but my steady companion is a 28 yr old Merlin Titanium. I bought it new with an aluminum fork that I thought I’d upgrade to carbon fiber but never did. The original Campy Ergo 8 speed was replaced with Campy Chorus 12 that I’m very happy with. I love this bike and from what a I can tell, I’m getting a great ride (not having ridden a modern road bike I don’t have a frame of reference...if that matters).
Me. Cycling was it for me until I met flyfishing. But after many year’s hiatus I am back to riding 6 days most weeks. I ride outside as often as possible (22 degrees is my coldest so far) and ride on a Wahoo when dark (still working) or in inclement weather. I’m averaging 165 mi/week, more in warm seasons. I love big hills and for the most part a B or B+ rider. Once a mediocre racer.
My dilemma. I’m limited to 23mm tires due to frame spacing...front and rear. Winter shifting is difficult when my fingers go numb. The only electronic shift that is compatible with this bike is sram Bluetooth, so that upgrade is expensively available. I suppose electric shifting is easier but I’m not educated enough about that to be certain. The aluminum fork, the weak part of the bike....well one mechanic marveled at its longevity. And what about the inability to run disc brakes? Clearly, I can continue to ride this loving companion (ok, it is a heartless object) until one of us wears out or breaks down. Or I can have stainless steel Tommassini built with disc brake e shifters.... and shed a little weight in the process (dropping from 185 to 149 this year was the better way). Really don’t have a grail bike in mind...a few dance through my head at times.
A new bike is not a financial reach but nor is it a charitable donation or a gift to my wife. How many years can I get out of it? Will a modern bike make riding safer, easier, or it’s rider happier?
I know, to be blessed with dilemma of this magnitude, shame on me. Best to all.
02-10-21, 12:37 PM
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You’re going to get a lot of encouragement here to buy. It’s gives the rest of us justification for making our own purchases! Seriously, though, there’s a good chance it will increase your riding and therefore improve your fitness, which will lengthen your riding life. For the record, I’m 72 and just bought a new bike. Having you buy one, too, will make me feel better.
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02-10-21, 12:45 PM
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When I was about to turn 70, I decided to get a custom Cinelli Supercorsa. That process ended up being a nightmare. As a result, I ordered a custom Cicli Barco using Columbus XCr stainless steel tubing and Campy's 12 speed Super Record group set. It was an easy and seamless transaction due to the wonderful Barco family. They do exceptional work in a reasonable amount of time for very reasonable prices. They also got me great prices on the Campy group set as well as some very nice carbon stuff by WR Compositi who makes carbon parts for Ferrari and Lamborghini, and is not available in the US. You can reward yourself by getting exactly what you want without any compromises. Don't bother with those nasty looking disc brakes when you can get really nice direct mount rim brakes that never get out of whack. This bike weighs 18.67 lbs. for a 58.5 cm frame. I could have cut off more weight with some lightweight carbon wheels, but I'm about 215 Lbs. and ride some rough roads and I hate how noisy carbon wheels are. The tires are Vittoria Corsa Control 25mm mounted on HED Belgium Plus rims and White Industries T11 hubs.. The clearance for tires is about 28mm with the Campy direct mount brakes.
Custom Cicli Barco in Stainless XCr with Campy 12 sp. SR group set and carbon by WR Compositi.
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02-10-21, 03:15 PM
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On the other hand, I have a couple of 20+ year old racing bikes that are very nice bikes. My body, however, is also 20+ years older. I prefer not to ride those bikes for more than a couple of hours at a time - the combination of 23mm tires and a lower riding position is tiring. I think you should at least test ride something with a more relaxed riding position. I have found that in two bikes, one simply by going a size up and fiddling with the stem position, the other with a much taller stack. 28 or 30mm tires also make a huge difference in terms of comfort.
Personally, I don't feel the need to go with either electronic shifting or disc brakes, but they are objective improvements. Whether or not they make enough of a difference to you, only you can say.
In short, you have nothing to lose in trying out a few new bikes. If you want one and you can afford it, then why the hell not?
02-10-21, 09:58 PM
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I'd say, if you can reasonably afford new bike, go for it. And if you might end up not going for it, don't let the reason be to leave more money to your children or whoever else. Its better for children to fend for themselves anyway. I only write this because I've seen too many people with that motivation who forwent (not sure I just made the word up, it is meant to be past time for 'forgo' 
, probably I should use 'denied themselves') buying something they wanted for themselves.
Looked it up and my hunch was right, past tense is indeed 'forwent'.
, probably I should use 'denied themselves') buying something they wanted for themselves.Looked it up and my hunch was right, past tense is indeed 'forwent'.
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02-12-21, 04:01 PM
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When I was about to turn 70, I decided to get a custom Cinelli Supercorsa. That process ended up being a nightmare. As a result, I ordered a custom Cicli Barco using Columbus XCr stainless steel tubing and Campy's 12 speed Super Record group set. It was an easy and seamless transaction due to the wonderful Barco family. They do exceptional work in a reasonable amount of time for very reasonable prices. They also got me great prices on the Campy group set as well as some very nice carbon stuff by WR Compositi who makes carbon parts for Ferrari and Lamborghini, and is not available in the US. You can reward yourself by getting exactly what you want without any compromises. Don't bother with those nasty looking disc brakes when you can get really nice direct mount rim brakes that never get out of whack. This bike weighs 18.67 lbs. for a 58.5 cm frame. I could have cut off more weight with some lightweight carbon wheels, but I'm about 215 Lbs. and ride some rough roads and I hate how noisy carbon wheels are. The tires are Vittoria Corsa Control 25mm mounted on HED Belgium Plus rims and White Industries T11 hubs.. The clearance for tires is about 28mm with the Campy direct mount brakes.
Custom Cicli Barco in Stainless XCr with Campy 12 sp. SR group set and carbon by WR Compositi.
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Stainless steel fork with carbon fiber steering tube and direct mount brakes.
Custom nameplate.
Custom Cicli Barco in Stainless XCr with Campy 12 sp. SR group set and carbon by WR Compositi.
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Stainless steel fork with carbon fiber steering tube and direct mount brakes.
Custom nameplate.
02-12-21, 08:53 PM
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I used to be friends with a Bulgarian couple. There was a phrase in the old country you'd use when talking about an old guy, roughly translated to "last pair of shoes guy", meaning a guy who's wearing the last pair of shoes he's ever going to buy. They moved to another state and we've lost touch, but that phrase sticks with me.
Are you ready to be "last bike guy"?
Buy the bike.
Are you ready to be "last bike guy"?
Buy the bike.
Heard that many, many times.
02-18-21, 04:33 PM
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These rambling obsessive musings are not foreign here but that doesn’t make them any less self indulgent. Fair warning.
I’m 69, but will likely be 70 on arrival if I go for it.
I’m a roadie. I might ride the gravel grinder when snow melt and cinders are to be encountered on winter roads here in PA, but my steady companion is a 28 yr old Merlin Titanium. I bought it new with an aluminum fork that I thought I’d upgrade to carbon fiber but never did. The original Campy Ergo 8 speed was replaced with Campy Chorus 12 that I’m very happy with. I love this bike and from what a I can tell, I’m getting a great ride (not having ridden a modern road bike I don’t have a frame of reference...if that matters).
Me. Cycling was it for me until I met flyfishing. But after many year’s hiatus I am back to riding 6 days most weeks. I ride outside as often as possible (22 degrees is my coldest so far) and ride on a Wahoo when dark (still working) or in inclement weather. I’m averaging 165 mi/week, more in warm seasons. I love big hills and for the most part a B or B+ rider. Once a mediocre racer.
My dilemma. I’m limited to 23mm tires due to frame spacing...front and rear. Winter shifting is difficult when my fingers go numb. The only electronic shift that is compatible with this bike is sram Bluetooth, so that upgrade is expensively available. I suppose electric shifting is easier but I’m not educated enough about that to be certain. The aluminum fork, the weak part of the bike....well one mechanic marveled at its longevity. And what about the inability to run disc brakes? Clearly, I can continue to ride this loving companion (ok, it is a heartless object) until one of us wears out or breaks down. Or I can have stainless steel Tommassini built with disc brake e shifters.... and shed a little weight in the process (dropping from 185 to 149 this year was the better way). Really don’t have a grail bike in mind...a few dance through my head at times.
A new bike is not a financial reach but nor is it a charitable donation or a gift to my wife. How many years can I get out of it? Will a modern bike make riding safer, easier, or it’s rider happier?
I know, to be blessed with dilemma of this magnitude, shame on me. Best to all.
I’m 69, but will likely be 70 on arrival if I go for it.
I’m a roadie. I might ride the gravel grinder when snow melt and cinders are to be encountered on winter roads here in PA, but my steady companion is a 28 yr old Merlin Titanium. I bought it new with an aluminum fork that I thought I’d upgrade to carbon fiber but never did. The original Campy Ergo 8 speed was replaced with Campy Chorus 12 that I’m very happy with. I love this bike and from what a I can tell, I’m getting a great ride (not having ridden a modern road bike I don’t have a frame of reference...if that matters).
Me. Cycling was it for me until I met flyfishing. But after many year’s hiatus I am back to riding 6 days most weeks. I ride outside as often as possible (22 degrees is my coldest so far) and ride on a Wahoo when dark (still working) or in inclement weather. I’m averaging 165 mi/week, more in warm seasons. I love big hills and for the most part a B or B+ rider. Once a mediocre racer.
My dilemma. I’m limited to 23mm tires due to frame spacing...front and rear. Winter shifting is difficult when my fingers go numb. The only electronic shift that is compatible with this bike is sram Bluetooth, so that upgrade is expensively available. I suppose electric shifting is easier but I’m not educated enough about that to be certain. The aluminum fork, the weak part of the bike....well one mechanic marveled at its longevity. And what about the inability to run disc brakes? Clearly, I can continue to ride this loving companion (ok, it is a heartless object) until one of us wears out or breaks down. Or I can have stainless steel Tommassini built with disc brake e shifters.... and shed a little weight in the process (dropping from 185 to 149 this year was the better way). Really don’t have a grail bike in mind...a few dance through my head at times.
A new bike is not a financial reach but nor is it a charitable donation or a gift to my wife. How many years can I get out of it? Will a modern bike make riding safer, easier, or it’s rider happier?
I know, to be blessed with dilemma of this magnitude, shame on me. Best to all.
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02-21-21, 02:06 PM
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At 75, I bought a NOS 2013 Specialized Tarmac Elite. Had been riding a 1985 Diamondback Ascent. Of course the difference was amazing.
Some of the best advice I received was "How old would you be if didn't buy a new bike?" I may not wear out any of my bikes (last pair of shoes), but I am enjoying them all.
Some of the best advice I received was "How old would you be if didn't buy a new bike?" I may not wear out any of my bikes (last pair of shoes), but I am enjoying them all.
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02-22-21, 09:18 AM
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I think that it all comes down to finances.
Essentially, you have a pretty high end bike that you bought 28 years ago. You are growing dissatisfied with it because of technology changes. A new bike is going to be a financial hit because you aren't likely to be satisfied with a cost point bike.
Two questions: 1. Do you have the money available to buy yourself the new bike that you want without otherwise upsetting your lifestyle? 2. If you don't buy the bike, what is going to happen to the money that you didn't spend on it?
This thread, by the way, is the second one in 24 hours in which I've suggested the OP check out my sig line.
Essentially, you have a pretty high end bike that you bought 28 years ago. You are growing dissatisfied with it because of technology changes. A new bike is going to be a financial hit because you aren't likely to be satisfied with a cost point bike.
Two questions: 1. Do you have the money available to buy yourself the new bike that you want without otherwise upsetting your lifestyle? 2. If you don't buy the bike, what is going to happen to the money that you didn't spend on it?
This thread, by the way, is the second one in 24 hours in which I've suggested the OP check out my sig line.
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02-23-21, 12:45 PM
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as an older guy you have nothing to prove except to your gal
an old colnago will outperform any newfangled electro buzz gadget
grease it up and hit the road
spend the extra money you saved on some dope threads (assos)
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an old colnago will outperform any newfangled electro buzz gadget
grease it up and hit the road
spend the extra money you saved on some dope threads (assos)
you're welcome
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03-17-21, 08:38 PM
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You got to 70, you earned it GO FOR IT...buy a new one at 80 and 90.....can't take it with you, enjoy life
03-18-21, 11:40 AM
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Sure, get a new bike. I'll be 70 in a few weeks with too many bikes now, but if I get back into shape and start riding a lot of gravel routes on road trips here in the west, I'll be looking at a gravel-centric bike with bigger tires and disc brakes. I've got a Cannondale SuperX cyclocross bike that's about 10 years old, but I may want something with room for bigger tires. And e-shifting looks pretty sweet. Again, get yourself a new bike if you can find something appropriate for your needs.
03-20-21, 10:07 AM
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I'm 66 and I've been riding my carbon Kuota bike for 15 years now with Chorus 10. I rented a brand new Specialized Roubaix when I was in San Fran just before the pandemic hit, and it was a revelation. Fatter tires, wider gears, a shock absorbing stem, disc brakes, through axle hubs, 11sp 105. It all added up to a much more comfortable ride that was still as fast as my current bike and shifted better than my Chorus. The low gear was 34/34 and I didn't have to struggle uphill even in SF.
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03-20-21, 10:09 AM
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I'm 66 and I've been riding my carbon Kuota bike for 15 years now with Chorus 10. I rented a brand new Specialized Roubaix when I was in San Fran just before the pandemic hit, and it was a revelation. Fatter tires, wider gears, a shock absorbing stem, disc brakes, through axle hubs, 11sp 105. It all added up to a much more comfortable ride that was still as fast as my current bike and shifted better than my Chorus. The low gear was 34/34 and I didn't have to struggle uphill even in SF.
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71 in JULY and just treated myself to a NEW 2 ME >>> only it has rim brakes and is a 7sp internal >>> COOL RIDE!!!
03-21-21, 10:11 AM
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These rambling obsessive musings are not foreign here but that doesn’t make them any less self indulgent. Fair warning.
I’m 69, but will likely be 70 on arrival if I go for it.
I’m a roadie. I might ride the gravel grinder when snow melt and cinders are to be encountered on winter roads here in PA, but my steady companion is a 28 yr old Merlin Titanium. I bought it new with an aluminum fork that I thought I’d upgrade to carbon fiber but never did. The original Campy Ergo 8 speed was replaced with Campy Chorus 12 that I’m very happy with. I love this bike and from what a I can tell, I’m getting a great ride (not having ridden a modern road bike I don’t have a frame of reference...if that matters).
Me. Cycling was it for me until I met flyfishing. But after many year’s hiatus I am back to riding 6 days most weeks. I ride outside as often as possible (22 degrees is my coldest so far) and ride on a Wahoo when dark (still working) or in inclement weather. I’m averaging 165 mi/week, more in warm seasons. I love big hills and for the most part a B or B+ rider. Once a mediocre racer.
My dilemma. I’m limited to 23mm tires due to frame spacing...front and rear. Winter shifting is difficult when my fingers go numb. The only electronic shift that is compatible with this bike is sram Bluetooth, so that upgrade is expensively available. I suppose electric shifting is easier but I’m not educated enough about that to be certain. The aluminum fork, the weak part of the bike....well one mechanic marveled at its longevity. And what about the inability to run disc brakes? Clearly, I can continue to ride this loving companion (ok, it is a heartless object) until one of us wears out or breaks down. Or I can have stainless steel Tommassini built with disc brake e shifters.... and shed a little weight in the process (dropping from 185 to 149 this year was the better way). Really don’t have a grail bike in mind...a few dance through my head at times.
A new bike is not a financial reach but nor is it a charitable donation or a gift to my wife. How many years can I get out of it? Will a modern bike make riding safer, easier, or it’s rider happier?
I know, to be blessed with dilemma of this magnitude, shame on me. Best to all.
I’m 69, but will likely be 70 on arrival if I go for it.
I’m a roadie. I might ride the gravel grinder when snow melt and cinders are to be encountered on winter roads here in PA, but my steady companion is a 28 yr old Merlin Titanium. I bought it new with an aluminum fork that I thought I’d upgrade to carbon fiber but never did. The original Campy Ergo 8 speed was replaced with Campy Chorus 12 that I’m very happy with. I love this bike and from what a I can tell, I’m getting a great ride (not having ridden a modern road bike I don’t have a frame of reference...if that matters).
Me. Cycling was it for me until I met flyfishing. But after many year’s hiatus I am back to riding 6 days most weeks. I ride outside as often as possible (22 degrees is my coldest so far) and ride on a Wahoo when dark (still working) or in inclement weather. I’m averaging 165 mi/week, more in warm seasons. I love big hills and for the most part a B or B+ rider. Once a mediocre racer.
My dilemma. I’m limited to 23mm tires due to frame spacing...front and rear. Winter shifting is difficult when my fingers go numb. The only electronic shift that is compatible with this bike is sram Bluetooth, so that upgrade is expensively available. I suppose electric shifting is easier but I’m not educated enough about that to be certain. The aluminum fork, the weak part of the bike....well one mechanic marveled at its longevity. And what about the inability to run disc brakes? Clearly, I can continue to ride this loving companion (ok, it is a heartless object) until one of us wears out or breaks down. Or I can have stainless steel Tommassini built with disc brake e shifters.... and shed a little weight in the process (dropping from 185 to 149 this year was the better way). Really don’t have a grail bike in mind...a few dance through my head at times.
A new bike is not a financial reach but nor is it a charitable donation or a gift to my wife. How many years can I get out of it? Will a modern bike make riding safer, easier, or it’s rider happier?
I know, to be blessed with dilemma of this magnitude, shame on me. Best to all.
03-21-21, 11:47 PM
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I'm 75 and just got my first full carbon 17 pound bike. It is in addition to my old (2014) aluminum frame road bike. I'm looking at a sub 17 pound ride to replace that, but honestly love the upgraded alu frame.
The carbon frame is great. So glad I bought it.
The carbon frame is great. So glad I bought it.
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A few years back when all I rode was my Rivendell, I wanted to try a carbon bike since I had never ridden one and of course they were all the rage. I test drove a Specialized Roubaix and I just couldn't find anything wrong with it. The bike rode like a dream, I just couldn't find fault with the bike at all. As nice as it was I just couldn't see myself riding it. I just didn't need it.
My point, try test riding a bike first and it may be everything that you think you are missing or it may be something you really don't need. I am not the first in this three page spread to suggest this. It is always easy to spend someone else's money, so it would be easy for me to say, buy a new bike but is it the best advice for you?
Good luck with this decision. It would be interesting to hear your thought process now that this thread is almost two months old and you have had time to evaluate the advice you have been given.
My point, try test riding a bike first and it may be everything that you think you are missing or it may be something you really don't need. I am not the first in this three page spread to suggest this. It is always easy to spend someone else's money, so it would be easy for me to say, buy a new bike but is it the best advice for you?
Good luck with this decision. It would be interesting to hear your thought process now that this thread is almost two months old and you have had time to evaluate the advice you have been given.
03-27-21, 12:02 PM
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Frame is purchased. Awaiting wheels and gruppo. No giveaways so stay tuned!
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I did it. I didn’t go far from my Merlin, though I’m back to steel.
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I'd buy one if I were looking to buy a new bike but I'm not. At 66 I'll be happy with what I have as long as I can keep riding. If I were younger I'd look at the Roubaix as an option for sure.
Better late than never with the reply. I haven't been on the forums much lately.
Better late than never with the reply. I haven't been on the forums much lately.
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