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jppe 04-03-21 05:45 PM

I used to play basketball in college after a toke and I “thought” I played as good as I normally would. Now I just zone out and become a zombie ......not sure I’d be able to keep a bike upright.

Cyclist0108 04-03-21 05:51 PM

Shouldn't this be in the Mountain Bikes subforum?

BlazingPedals 04-03-21 05:51 PM

I've never ridden drunk, and I presume that riding high would be a similar experience. If you have an abuse problem, you'd probably think it was great; normal people would not feel comfortable with the reduction in reaction time and balance.

big john 04-03-21 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by BlazingPedals (Post 21998999)
I've never ridden drunk, and I presume that riding high would be a similar experience. If you have an abuse problem, you'd probably think it was great; normal people would not feel comfortable with the reduction in reaction time and balance.

As an alcoholic, I can assure you they are not similar experiences, not even close. I can't imagine trying to ride a bicycle or motorcycle while drunk.

canklecat 04-03-21 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by donheff (Post 21998211)
I don't believe this is true. I have a number of friends who have been smoking it (now vaporizing) on a daily basis for 50+ years and get as high as ever without increasing volume. They are certainly more used to being high than a dabbler and would feel more comfortable with the effects. I have Parkinson's and regularly use edibles for sleep. I cut 10mg edibles in half ant take 5mg which is just enough to help me sleep without getting noticeably high. If I am high I stay awake tossing and turning. I am cautious about falls since I am now 70+ and don't want to break any more bones in bike crashes. I would probably feel safe riding with a mild buzz but I would not risk it. From what I have read reaction times and judgement are impaired by THC.

If you want to get direct reports from the horse's mouth ask any of the old timers on beach cruisers in Key West.

THC tolerance is well documented in anecdotes by users and confirmed by more recent research. However it appears to vary considerably among users, depending on many factors: age, diet, body fat, overall health, other medications/substances, and potency of the cannabis.

In my few more recent experiences -- a year or so ago when friends offered it for my chronic pain -- I found it took only a few days of very moderate regular use (via smoking) to develop a tolerance, even with some fairly potent stuff. However even a couple of puffs would irritate my upper respiratory system and made my asthma and sinus inflammation worse, so I gave up smoking after only a short trial.

Edibles were far more difficult to find a consistent dosage. That may have been due to my inexperienced homebrewed attempts at decarboxylation and testing finely ground full leaf in edibles vs homemade oil tinctures for sublingual use. Sometimes there was barely any effect. Other times it was couch lock for hours. To be honest, I get bored with the psychoactive effect after 15-30 minutes, but it drags on for hours. I wish I enjoyed it as much as other folks, but even as a teenager it was never my favorite thing.

The main reason I gave up on that trial using full spectrum cannabis with significant THC was because it didn't help with my chronic pain. Although it did help with sleep.

While research continues into how and why cannabis works, some studies indicate that for optimal pain relief many people respond better to a high CBD, low THC ratio -- roughly around the 0.3mg potency that meets FDA standards for CBD rather than cannabis with significant psychoactive effect. Basically, that's the premise of the full spectrum, high potency CBD I've been buying for a couple of years.

My only real complaint about commercially made CBD is that it's expensive for what it is, although prices are dropping for some brands -- notably Lazarus Naturals and Sunsoil, both of which I usually mail order.

Aficionados with access to fairly consistent buds, proper decarb equipment, etc., can probably homebrew their own CBD/THC to suit their own preferences more economically. But, living in an apartment rather than my own home, and with no clear guidance from the VA on their policy toward CBD vs high concentration THC cannabis, I'm reluctant to get involved beyond my trial of the stuff a year or so ago. Once we have consistent guidelines on cannabis -- preferably deregulating it completely for personal use -- I'll consider trying again.

For now I still prefer CBD and kratom for relief from chronic pain without psychoactive effects, so I can stay active cycling, walking and running.

79pmooney 04-03-21 08:06 PM

I rode high many times over more than a decade years ago and all through my racing days. Never before races but often on training rides. I noticed early on when I started racing that my reactions slowed as I went deeper into my reserves in races. And that this reaction slowing was very much like the slowing I experienced riding high. I started observing my reactions both racing and training high and believe to this day that riding high did a very good job of preparing me for the very hard long races to be a steady, solid rider that didn't cause problems and that other trusted. (And this with little group riding. The local group rides were in general, shorter and faster than I wanted to focus on plus they didn't work with my schedule. Also, quite a few of those riders rode high and shared stuff that I would have had trouble passing up. Safety-wise, riding with them would be like me racing high.)

caloso 04-03-21 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 21999071)
As an alcoholic, I can assure you they are not similar experiences, not even close. I can't imagine trying to ride a bicycle or motorcycle while drunk.

Same.

canklecat 04-04-21 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by MinnMan (Post 21998504)
Again, my experience comes almost entirely from a long time ago, when things were different (especially me). But from what I recall, the high from edibles and from smoking is very different. Also, unless you have a lot of experience (I never did), it's harder to control your high on edibles. You eat it and maybe an hour later, you're going where it is taking you. And that may be to Saturn.

Also, I appreciate the fragrance of marijuana smoke. At this point, (the few times when I've smoked in the last several years), I actually appreciate the smell more than I appreciate the high.

Cigarettes stink.

Same. I smell weed smoke on almost every bike ride, walk and run. Passing cars, people parked or walking around, just sitting on their porches or yards. It's everywhere now. I like the smell. I just wish it didn't aggravate my asthma and sinuses, but it doesn't bother me when other people are smoking.

For that matter I enjoy second hand smoke from a good cigar or pipe tobacco, although I quit smoking more than 20 years ago. If a friend lights up nearby I don't mind. But most cigarette tobacco smoke gives me an astringent sensation in the nose and throat, not pleasant. There are a very few high quality cigarette tobaccos that aren't bad, but most people I know who still smoke choose the foulest cancer sticks and still overpay. I can't imagine spending what it costs now to smoke cigarettes. By the time I quit even Dunhills were still affordable.

Vaping isn't much better. It aggravates my sinuses and throat just as bad as regular smoking.

rsbob 04-04-21 04:49 PM

Five people have answered the OP’s question and the rest have answered like they were stoned. :D

So to join the ranks of the stoned; I would never do it because I enjoy the feeling of speed and nothing (other than transcontinental flights) slows down my sense of speed like riding high. Second it would further slow me down because I used to get (haven’t smoked in 30+ years) the munchies so badly I would not be able to pass a bakery or convenience store.

“I would not feel so all alone, everybody must get stoned” B Dylan

fly135 04-05-21 11:21 AM

This is one of those things that if you have to ask, then you probably shouldn't.

davester 04-05-21 04:07 PM

I'm a bit surprised that nobody has brought up the fact that it is illegal in most states to drive or ride on a public roadway under the influence, whether that be alcohol, marijuana, or any other psychoactive drug. Also, for the folks saying that they don't believe it affects their judgment or ability to ride safely, I have a bridge to sell you.

Wildwood 04-05-21 05:00 PM

Rotgut with 2 posts hit a 50+ nerve.
More posts quickly than just about any other thread

Wonder if it's for a PostGraduate Thesis??? :foo:

Otherwise, sounds like a troll more than anything. :p

Legal in my State, but I stay away from medibles. Not for me at all.


I worry much more about open carry locations!!!
thread diversion ahead.
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open carry alcohol containers

Wildwood 04-05-21 05:09 PM

:50: Sing it Willie,

On the road again,
like a band of gypsies we go down the highway.....


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fcba96d78e.jpg
or was it the Doobie Bros?

OldsCOOL 04-05-21 07:50 PM

I tried blazing a doob before a ride home from work back in ‘73 (I was 15) and found a whole nuther world. After that night, my rides on that beloved Motobecane would be enjoyed without a buzz. :lol:

jon c. 04-05-21 08:06 PM

Sure.

In the 70s, I rode on acid and coke. I don't do that anymore.

Rotgut 04-05-21 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 22001711)
Rotgut with 2 posts hit a 50+ nerve.

Otherwise, sounds like a troll more than anything. :p

LOL, sorry, I promise I'm not a troll. I'm legit, and I have the bad knees to prove it. I'm a long-time lurker mainly because some of y'all are much more hardcore cyclists than I. My rides are commutes, 3 or 4 times/week 20+ mile rides, and a couple of organized rides. So I figure my contributions here are limited to what I know. :)

Thanks to all who responded. I've been around long enough to know what's an unnecessary risk. There's no way I would ride high with cars around me. But with Ragbrai coming up and a lot of legal states, I'm sure we're going to be seeing some riders enjoying their partying.

rsbob 04-05-21 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by Rotgut (Post 22002047)
LOL, sorry, I promise I'm not a troll. I'm legit, and I have the bad knees to prove it. I'm a long-time lurker mainly because some of y'all are much more hardcore cyclists than I. My rides are commutes, 3 or 4 times/week 20+ mile rides, and a couple of organized rides. So I figure my contributions here are limited to what I know. :)

Thanks to all who responded. I've been around long enough to know what's an unnecessary risk. There's no way I would ride high with cars around me. But with Ragbrai coming up and a lot of legal states, I'm sure we're going to be seeing some riders enjoying their partying.

No worries whatsoever. What counts is that you are here and contributing. I am on several car forums and have never seen the word troll so used and mostly abused as here. My theory is that it is age related, since the accused as so far from the definition found on the web.

The most risky thing you can do here is start a thread and if someone disagrees with the premise the label is just about guaranteed, but dont let that dissuade you because without thread starters, this site would not exist. Keep it up and if all else fails you can block chosen people’s posts.

Sorcerer 04-06-21 02:13 AM

Once upon a time a long long time ago i had a Friday off and made two 10" waffles packed with weed and ate them with two sunny side up eggs and a lot of butter and honey ( I don't eat that way now) and went riding all day over mountains on my 10 speed covering no idea how many miles of elevation because that wasn't a thing i could record not did I really care at those times and it still remains one of my fondest bike rides I ever had. I was incredibly high for a long time and I rode harder than I ever had before I am quite sure, but the price was when I came home Friday night just as it became dark, I went to sleep, and slept through all of Saturday and woke up good as new on Sunday. My parents thought I was sick and let me be. Well I suppose I was, right? Anyway one of the fondest of memories, and all on the first wheelset I built myself. I don't ride stoned or use pot now and haven't for many decades. Nothing against it though. I vaguely remember coming home and eating in high volumes and crashing out with that wonderful feeling of satiety and exhaustion that we can all probably relate to. I won't go into the ride itself except to say it was mental as anything and I saw beautiful things everywhere I went. Honestly that's how it is.

indyfabz 04-06-21 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 21998045)
It’s been a long time for me, but I’d probably just get off and sit on a rock and contemplate the foliage.

And eat a Cliff Bar or something.

Wildwood 04-06-21 10:08 AM

Would it count.....
on a tandem.....
if your stoker....
was a toker?

Inquiring minds :foo:, want to know! :thumb:

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tyrion 04-06-21 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Wildwood (Post 22002724)
Would it count.....
on a tandem.....
if your stoker....
was a toker?

Inquiring minds :foo:, want to know! :thumb:

Is your stoker a joker and a midnight toker?

Wildwood 04-06-21 10:25 AM

Sometimes the captain objects - in a strong tailwind; or, if I engage the rear drum brake a little bit on the climbs.... just for giggles & skits. :roflmao2:

bOsscO 04-06-21 10:53 AM

Riding downhill high scared the heck out of me.
I don't think I'd feel too comfortable riding on the road high if it was more than a few KMs and at any speed.
But putzing around at a leisurely pace on MUPs or otherwise dedicated bike paths while high would be fun.

blacknbluebikes 04-06-21 11:03 AM

Funny, I don't remember.

gthomson 04-06-21 06:07 PM

Nope just EPO for me :) Funny, just reading a book about Lance and riding high on pot seems so insignificant compared the amount of stuff those guys pumped into their bodies! I know, the impact on taking performance enhancement drugs is different but the damage could be fatal in both cases.
Personally, I get on my bike and get this natural high as I pedal for pleasure or for exercise so don't really need the stimulus. Working all day is another story and I could sure use some stimulus after 9 hours in front of my computer.

rydabent 04-08-21 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by Rotgut (Post 21997239)
I'm mid 50s and enjoy a small dose edible once in a while in the summer evening after a good ride or brisk yard work. (Not much of a drinker.) I've been wondering if anyone here has ever actually ridden high? I know the obvious dangers, and I'm not talking about look-at-your-thumb-while-slobbering high. I'm talking about being functionally high, the kind of high where you feel every stretch and every sore muscle in a good way. I usually end up stretching a lot when I'm high, kind of yoga-like. I've never actually ridden high and am genuinely curious if anyone has gotten any satisfaction from it, or if crashing paranoia sets in. Or if I should take this question to the 20+ forum.
Please, no anti-pot lectures. As I say, I'm genuinely curious.

Getting "high" is stupid in the first place. And trying to ride a bike makes it worse.

base2 04-08-21 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 22006364)
Getting "high" is stupid in the first place. And trying to ride a bike makes it worse.

As someone who just rode 25 miles, just drank 24 ounces of "hobo beer" Steel Reserve 211, & is currently waiting for 20 milligrams of THC in chocolate form to kick in, I disagree.

In an hour, I'll be washed, showered, & be set up for 8 hour of uninterrupted sleep...That is, unless you'd rather I toss & turn & lay in bed, in frustration "not sleeping" until 3 or 4, or 5am.

I mean, I've done a few "midnight centuries" to wait out my restless brain, but realistically there is a limit to how many 36 or 48 hour days with 2 or 3 or 4 hours of restless sleep an otherwise healthy human can withstand.

I really don't understand the opinion bias against the only thing that lets me sleep like a normal person. I mean there are cannabinoid receptors in the human brain, afterall. The plant & humans have been in symbiotic relations since the dawn of time.

Coincidentally, my friends mother who has had Parkinsons since I met her 33 years ago (!) No longer has a Parkinsons diagnosis. The doctors are legitimately basffled. She's been alive too long for it to be actual real Parkinsons. Her symptoms "evaporated" when she started taking THC/CBD. Coincidence? Absolutely. But she can do stairs now & no longer responds incoherently to simple conversation. She can drive competently & safely now with attentivness & reaction times you would expect a normal healthy person to have. She no longer shakes uncontrollably, & at age 75+, has given up her walker.

Am I advocating for a cure-all "snake oil?" Am I advocating anything other than a garden grown bit of Mother Nature? No, there are lots of harmful things out there of all stripes & all manner of irresponsibility to be found everywhere. But, the hysteria about "Reefer Madness" is largely unwarrented

I am not advocating any position other than pragmatism & an acknowledgement that blanket policies & opinions don't always address the full spectrum of diversity or nuance in a given population set.

big john 04-09-21 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 22006364)
Getting "high" is stupid in the first place.

If only it were that simple.

blacknbluebikes 04-09-21 11:21 AM

A lot of stupid things are really fun. Cycling is fun, stoning is fun. Lots of fun things don't mix. C'est la vie.


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