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Cars to Tote Bikes, in these modern times?

Old 05-09-21, 07:58 AM
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Audi Avant (wagon)

Our Audi A4 wagon fits two vintage longer wheelbase bikes easily without removing the front wheels. They lay flat with drive sides up and a couple of dog blankets between them, as the second bike in will overlap and lay somewhat over the first.

I recently hauled one bike and a 50 lb Springer Spaniel from VA to Cape Cod comfortably, with plenty of space for both dog and bike. We averaged 28MPG driving lead-foot on the I95 racetrack as well.
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Originally Posted by John E View Post
This is why we are clinging to our beloved 2001 VW Passat wagon as long as we reasonably can. Hanging from the garage rafters I have a preassembled pair of VW crossbars and Yakima bike racks I can literally lower onto the car's roof rack if I need to carry 3 or 4 people, but normally I just fold the rear seat cushions forward against the backs of the front seats, then drop the rear seatbacks for an almost-6-foot-long, nearly flat load floor. Best-sized, best-configured car ever offered on the American market. We also have a 2016 VW Golf Sportwagen, but the cargo space is noticeably smaller.
Yeah John, I had a '93 Passat sedan which was an ugly beauty - I wished I had the wagon. In EU VW has come out with a Passat Alltrack, but I'm not sure it will ever come here.
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The simple answer is a crew cab pickup with a hard tonneau cover like I have. It is a do all vehicle, and most bikes fit in the bed safe and secure with the tonneau cover locked.
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Yeah John, I had a '93 Passat sedan which was an ugly beauty - I wished I had the wagon. In EU VW has come out with a Passat Alltrack, but I'm not sure it will ever come here.
yeah, we loved our ‘99 Passat wagon- had a Thule rack system for whitewater & ocean kayaks and for our bikes. Unfortunately, I blew the turbo after 17 yrs and traded it in for the Audi. Still looking for Thule rack adaptors that will fit the Audi rails... In the meantime the cargo space is plenty big for 2 bikes.
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Originally Posted by Road Fan View Post
I havent seen a "Cars for Carting Bikes" thread for a while, so since I'm about tto buy a little bigger car, lemme see what the old bike guys think.

I've been driving Prius' since about 2007. One Mrk 2 was totalled so we replaced it with a 2009, Wife needed her own so we got here a used 2007, retired from Toyota so we traded the '07 Prius for a Lexus SUV, then we hated the Lexus and for a 2018 Prius (new).

The '18 Prius is a Mk 4 and a little lower in every way than the Mk2: harder to get in and out, the cargo floor os not smooth, and it's harder to fit two bikes. The cargo height is lower in the rear, as well. So even with the better fuel economy (better hybrid system and the "Ukieh-O Samurai Warrior" body style are more energy efficient than the lozenge-shaped Mk2, we like to drive the Mk2 Prius (2009, recall) better, even though it is close to 180k miles.

We're thinking now of trading the Mk4 (2018, 17k miles) for a 2018 VW Golf Alltrak SEL wagon, with 3500 miles. It seems to be a little old lady house-locked by Covid situation, except for the 6-sp manual transmission!

The bed seems long enough for a long wheelbase (105 cm) 650b, even two of them, it has loads of toys and safety features, and an easy to understand dashboard. I don't mind pulling wheels of of bicycles, but on the 650bs we have SON dynos and it's a tricky job to disconnect and reconnect the wiring. So we like a cargo bed where we can just lay bikes down.

Next alternative for a station wagon is a Volvo V60 or an Audi All-road (based on the A4 sedan). Mercedes-Benz has this year an E-class wagon, but the "cheap one" is $67K. V60 is available as a hybrid but that costs as much as the E-class. The Subaru Outback is also still in the picture, so I have to take a better look at it.

What have you folks found as good choices in the current market?
Many years ago there was a Ford pickup advertisement that stated if you have two vehicles, the second one should be a pickup. Why have two cars, when they do the same thing. That really seemed logical to me.

Finally back in 1994 I remembered that, and bought my first small pickup. Smartest move I ever made. Carrying bikes and trikes are only one of the many things you can do with a pickup. In fact if you can get by with only one vehicle, a crew cab mid sized pickup is the do all machine. You can carry 5 people, and the bed can be use for a multitude of hauling jobs.
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
The simple answer is a crew cab pickup with a hard tonneau cover like I have. It is a do all vehicle, and most bikes fit in the bed safe and secure with the tonneau cover locked.
My life is not simple enough for that answer. We do not want a tall vehicle. We had a Lexus GX 450hl several years back, and we hated it. It’s height was only one of the most hateful factors.
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Cars to tote bikes in these “Modern Times”

Loved the Charlie Chaplin classic, Modern Times. The term Modern is so....uh, un-modern.

I carry two bikes on a hitch mounted rack on my AWD Macan, all of which fits in the garage with a bit of finesse.
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Old 05-14-21, 02:13 PM
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I've got a Chevy Colorado ZR2 diesel here in northern NM. I use a hitch rack unless we're going camping and pulling one of our trailers, then I've got two 1UP racks on top of the bed rack.

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Old 05-18-21, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve B. View Post
Forester or an Outback can hold a single bike with front wheel on, laid down in back with rear seats folded flat. 2 Bikes with no F wheels attached, sorta upright leaning on each other.
I can fit my bike in my Crosstrek with the front wheel on (front wheel turned) with no problems. Imprezas have the same cargo area dimensions. I still use a hitch mounted Kuat Sherpa 2.0 but it's good to know that the bike fits inside if I feel it necessary.
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Old 05-21-21, 08:55 AM
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Here are a couple of shots of my bike haulers that I literally threw together in a few minutes from stuff I had laying around.

This is how I haul road bikes in the back of my pickup. Note the old cabinet door handles. Spiffy.


Last summer we took a road trip to some National Parks. We rented a mini van and I put together a
quick way to secure the bikes.

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I usually pick the e class mercedes wagon for comfort and range, but the gas pig land cruiser works and so does the F350 Super Duty.
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Old 05-22-21, 10:05 AM
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Tesla Model X for me. It swallows road bikes whole with ease and Mtbs go on a rear hitch rack.
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Old 05-22-21, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
Many years ago there was a Ford pickup advertisement that stated if you have two vehicles, the second one should be a pickup. Why have two cars, when they do the same thing. That really seemed logical to me.
When I had my Trek DS I would haul it around in the trunk of my XJ6.. Pop the wheels off and it would lay right down. Otherwise Ill use my F150. Its an older one with a 6.75 ft shortbed and I slip a 2x4 into the pockets in the bedliner and I have a couple of fork mounts bolted to it. It has a campershell so its a little more secure and keeps them out of the weather if needed.

While I did get by with just the PU for a long time, used it for everything, commuting, hauling stuff ect (the mrs had a Wrangler) it was always nice to have a "dog free" vehicle and it was nice that the trunk was large enough to take a bike.

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Originally Posted by Road Fan View Post
At the moment we're strongly preferring the 2019 Golf Alltrack.
I have a Hyundai 2010 Santa Fe SUV. For day rides, both bikes fit in the rear with front wheels off. An old sleeping bag goes between the bikes for padding and to minimize entanglements with pedals. For longer overnights or vacations with the dog, both wheels come off and go into wheel bags, and the bikes sit on top of the luggage with the bagged wheels on top. Small bags for hotel stays are accessible for in and out.

For all trips a painters tan canvas drop cloth covers the cargo. It prevents peeping eyes. I do not use external racks due to the inevitable busy, curious fingers messing with bikes and controls in external racks.

Using the pickup with a locking fiberglass cap is even easier.

In my experience with SUV and station wagons, wagons are easier for bikes. I just saw an Alltrack yesterday and it looks to me to be more spacious than the mid-size SUV,
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I have a Hyundai 2010 Santa Fe SUV. For day rides, both bikes fit in the rear with front wheels off. An old sleeping bag goes between the bikes for padding and to minimize entanglements with pedals. For longer overnights or vacations with the dog, both wheels come off and go into wheel bags, and the bikes sit on top of the luggage with the bagged wheels on top. Small bags for hotel stays are accessible for in and out.

For all trips a painters tan canvas drop cloth covers the cargo. It prevents peeping eyes. I do not use external racks due to the inevitable busy, curious fingers messing with bikes and controls in external racks.

Using the pickup with a locking fiberglass cap is even easier.

In my experience with SUV and station wagons, wagons are easier for bikes. I just saw an Alltrack yesterday and it looks to me to be more spacious than the mid-size SUV,
yes, that’s what I like about the Alltrack! We’re gonna go look at an Audi A4 Allroad later this week, similar size and layout!
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For over a decade, I used my Toyota Tacoma with a cap. On the rare occasion I needed to hold more than one bike, I could either stack them with blankets in between or in the case of my lowracers, run with the tailgate down and bikes bungeed to each side. I've also used a hitch rack with it. Pickup trucks don't need to be tall, unless you feel the need for a giant 4WD model. My Tacoma was only about 5'6-8", and I could have easily carried 3-4 regular bikes on a fork mount if the cap wasn't there. The problem: the truck gets relatively poor gas mileage.

These days the Tacoma is semi-retired and any bike I have will fit inside my Mazda 6 with the rear seat folded. It requires removal of the rear wheel, but even my 7' avatar bike will fit. If I'm transporting more than one, well, I have a roof rack and will accept the mileage hit for those rare occasions.
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Pickup truck. Set tailgate down, roll bike in. Close tailgate, This is why I own a truck, it makes light work out of most everything.
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I finally found an electric that might be a worthy successor to our 20-years-young Passat wagon: https://www.vw.com/en/models/id-4.html

No rush, as long as the Passat continues to serve us well, but as a car ages, stuff happens.
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My life is not simple enough for that answer. We do not want a tall vehicle. We had a Lexus GX 450hl several years back, and we hated it. It’s height was only one of the most hateful factors.
OTOH when we got our first pickup, my wife wasnt too sure about it. But then when she drove it, she loved it. The reason----------because she sat higher and could see traffic better.

My wife and I are both retired, and we have only the one vehicle, a 2015 crew cab Colorado. It is pretty much a do all vehicle with 5 seats and the box that can carry most anything. It is amazing how much money you can save if you only have one vehicle. Taxes, license, gas, maintanence etc.

And then with the Toneau cover, I can transport my bike in a clean safe place, and can lock it up over night out of site. Great all around vehicle for a cyclist.

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My Honda Odyssey was the best bike carrier I ever had. With the rear seats folded I could put 3 bikes inside upright with ease, probably a fourth if needed. That minivan is now gone and I have a Tesla Model 3. With that car the only good option is a trailer hitch mounted rack. You can't use a roof rack because of the glass roof, although Tesla themselves sell a rack which can take a roof bike holder from any of the regular brands. That said, I've also read where the stress of the bikes has cracked the glass. Trailer hitch plus 1Up or some other hitch rack gets expensive fast. I have put my bike inside with one rear seat folded down. I haven't tried adding a second, maybe facing the other way. I don't have trunk mats yet so I'm being careful. I'm still on the fence about the hitch rack. I know we would throw two bikes into the minivan at the drop of a hat, but would we do it if it weren't so easy?
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My Honda Odyssey was the best bike carrier I ever had. With the rear seats folded I could put 3 bikes inside upright with ease, probably a fourth if needed. That minivan is now gone and I have a Tesla Model 3. With that car the only good option is a trailer hitch mounted rack. You can't use a roof rack because of the glass roof, although Tesla themselves sell a rack which can take a roof bike holder from any of the regular brands. That said, I've also read where the stress of the bikes has cracked the glass. Trailer hitch plus 1Up or some other hitch rack gets expensive fast. I have put my bike inside with one rear seat folded down. I haven't tried adding a second, maybe facing the other way. I don't have trunk mats yet so I'm being careful. I'm still on the fence about the hitch rack. I know we would throw two bikes into the minivan at the drop of a hat, but would we do it if it weren't so easy?
Hitch racks are pretty easy if you get a good one. I can fit the rack and up to 4 bikes in less than 10 mins. Less if only 1 or 2 bikes. They also mean no mess gets inside the car.
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Just got a 22 Honda Odyssey with a 2in hitch and roof rack. Not much effort required to transport 4 of us with bikes and gear.
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