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This might look stupid but I love the ergonomics.

Old 05-25-21, 05:14 PM
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This might look stupid but I love the ergonomics.

As an old fart, I wanted to ride more upright, so I replaced the stem on my hybrid bike with a longer stem that had a shorter anterior extension and I love it! You could say I'm sitting pretty.



Modified Miyata hybrid with a longer stem and shorter anterior extension.
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Can you get out of the saddle and honk up the hills?
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Can you get out of the saddle and honk up the hills?
I don't think I actually ever 'got out of the saddle' on this bike. The geometry just isn't favorable. I'm OK with plodding uphill in the lowest gear.
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Originally Posted by Raleigh71 View Post



Modified Miyata hybrid with a longer stem and shorter anterior extension.
Did you consider riser bars, instead of such a very tall and thin stem? They’re sturdier.

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Originally Posted by Raleigh71 View Post
As an old fart, I wanted to ride more upright, so I replaced the stem on my hybrid bike with a longer stem that had a shorter anterior extension and I love it! You could say I'm sitting pretty.



Modified Miyata hybrid with a longer stem and shorter anterior extension.
I like the same type of setup. I have a fat bike with raised handlebars. I like to make the bike comfortable.
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Looks fast to those in the know 😉. Graeme Obree's 1993/94 hour record bike. Outlawed soon after....

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Originally Posted by terrymorse View Post
Did you consider riser bars, instead of such a very tall and thin stem? They’re sturdier.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00168M1UC...ing=UTF8&psc=1

I did consider riser bars but the original quill had a fairly long anterior reach I wanted shorter. See photo of the original quill (below). The new quill is only ~2.5 cm offset.



Original bike quill.

This is the stock photo of what I replaced the original quill with. 280 mm. total length. It gave me about another 3.5" higher and less anterior reach.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse View Post
Did you consider riser bars, instead of such a very tall and thin stem? They’re sturdier.
If they are quite high, like the stem, they are likely to twist forward when you apply the brakes or hit a bump. They need to be clamped very hard to stop this twisting.

You may notice bmx bikes with raised handlebars, use a strong clamp to prevent them twisting forward.

You can buy aluminum raiser stems from China. An ideal height for me would be two of the long ones, one on top of the other. I have not used them, over concerns of what might happen if they fail at high speed.

I think it is ideal to make your own stem using strong steel.

I am using motorbike after market handlebars at present. They would be more comfortable if they were even higher. But to raise them, I need to replace the brake and gear cables with longer ones. So I live with handlebars that are raised, but not as high as ideal for now. In the future, I may make a long strong steel stem.

I am tall. Shorter people can be comfortable with lower handlebars.
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Here is one bike where I have raised the handlebars, and left allowance to raise them even further if I replace the cables.



Here is more information.

Raising the handlebars

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^^^^^that looks like an impalement waiting to happen.....
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Originally Posted by Speedway2 View Post
^^^^^that looks like an impalement waiting to happen.....
When I ride, I put a drink bottle over it to give it a large surface area. If I had photographed it with the drink bottle covering it, you would not see it properly.

In the future, I may replace the cables with longer ones, and raise the handlebars to the top.
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Originally Posted by alo View Post

In the future, I may replace the cables with longer ones, and raise the handlebars to the top.
Like this?
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My wife has bad R.A. Which would not allow her to use her drops and shifters on her Cannondale so I converted it to upright bars like yours. It worked for a while until her RA got worse and moved her to an upright Specialized E bike. We won’t even talk about what it cost.
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Sitting upright like that actually hurts me more, it puts more weight on your lower back and sitbones.
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Fun to see these bizarre creations. Keep 'em coming.
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Sitting Pretty? No, not pretty to me. But what ever works for you is okay. But if you come to talk about saddle pains later on long rides......
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If it works for you...it works for you! If it keeps "an old fart" riding, then it's a good thing.
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Originally Posted by Raleigh71 View Post
As an old fart, I wanted to ride more upright, so I replaced the stem on my hybrid bike with a longer stem that had a shorter anterior extension and I love it! You could say I'm sitting pretty.



Modified Miyata hybrid with a longer stem and shorter anterior extension.
Sorry Man... But to be honest that looks like the bike that the Moscow circus bears used to ride.
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I appreciate all the feedback!

1. I don't have to lean forward and then hyperextend my neck, pinching off my cervical cord, and I get to see what's in front of me rather then getting up-front-and-personal with my front tire. I don't know why I didn't do this years ago.

2. No reason the stresses on the handlebar clamp are any different from a shorter quill. In fact, maybe even less since Im not leaning on it. It's firmly clamped and isn't going to rotate. That's a solid alloy stem and isn't going to break off.

3. Yes, some of the cables were too short doing this and I had to replace them. Those were 6 mm OD cable housings with 2 mm inner cables. No longer off-the-shelf items, but for a few bucks I found NOS OEM replacements on ebay, so everything matches

4. Great observation about the similarity with a Russian bear riding a bike! There's a Great Pyrenees in the neighborhood that's about a big as a bear....we'll see if she can ride this.
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And one more point:

I couldn't see how this would lead to getting 'impaled' on anything. And if it did happen, at least they'd say, "He died doing what he loved to do"
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Like this?

The cigarette really completes the picture.
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The cigarette really completes the picture.
Not to mention the sideview mirror.
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This might look stupid but I love the ergonomics... Hey Stud... What Ever You Have To Do To Ride... BRAVO...

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As an old fart...
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Originally Posted by Iride01 View Post
Sitting Pretty? No, not pretty to me. But what ever works for you is okay. But if you come to talk about saddle pains later on long rides......

I can say I've never found a bike seat I really loved, and I'm convinced there's scant science behind choosing one but I hit on the one on the bike by accident with no 'saddle pains' a.k.a. pudendal neuropathy, or ischiopubic issues of any sort after long rides. I don't think you'll see me posting for remedies.

And BTW, since I'm not leaning on my wrists as much, I'd expect less chance I'd get 'handlebar palsy' a.k.a ulnar neuropathy or compressive median nerve symptoms either like carpal tunnel.
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The cigarette really completes the picture.
at least is armpits will always be dry.
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