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Old 07-09-22, 10:58 AM
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IF (purely hypothetically) this was Canyon, I would be a bit surprised, simply because their sizing is odd in the other direction. I fit a 54 or 56 Trek Domane or Emonda, and Canyon not only points me to "small", but in their on-line fitting web interface, I have to lie and claim my legs are 1" longer even to get it to recommend a size small. Otherwise it tells me something must have gone wrong, and I cannot possibly be 5'9.5" with a 30" inseam. (I've demo-ed their bikes, and could fit both small and medium with no drama.)
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Old 07-09-22, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark View Post
IF (purely hypothetically) this was Canyon, I would be a bit surprised, simply because their sizing is odd in the other direction. I fit a 54 or 56 Trek Domane or Emonda, and Canyon not only points me to "small", but in their on-line fitting web interface, I have to lie and claim my legs are 1" longer even to get it to recommend a size small. Otherwise it tells me something must have gone wrong, and I cannot possibly be 5'9.5" with a 30" inseam. (I've demo-ed their bikes, and could fit both small and medium with no drama.)
This is the issue with the "formulas" for determining frame sizes. I've plugged in my measurements on several sites, and have been recommended anywhere from a 52cm to 56cm framesize, which translates from small to almost large. That's why I had my fitting and got my numbers, and study the geometry charts.
Oh well. I'm looking at a Ribble now, but have to figure in the shipping and import duties.
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Old 07-09-22, 11:14 AM
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Same here. My fitter built my frame, and got it right. I recognize there probably is no one unique solution, but if it is way off, it isn't going to work.
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Check out this site
I have a Gunnar Crosshairs adnd just ordered a Rock TourII frame so that is the frames on the link
​​​​​​https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geo...3e330017217952
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Old 07-13-22, 01:02 PM
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While I understand you just want to do this and can afford it I assume, it does seem like a lot of money just to get disc brakes and wireless shifting. Even if you sell the other one, you'll be paying a bundle for these things. Once the wiring is done, how much does it matter anyway as long as it works?

OTOH, I rode a more modern bike than mine right before the pandemic hit, a Specialized Roubaix with 105 11sp, and it felt really nice. It wasn't electronic shifting though, and it was a good thing I didn't get a flat because I know nothing about through-axle. My bike was already 15 years old at the time. I was tempted to get something newer myself but my wife talked me out of it, saying I'd never get the payback because of my age. What does a 67 year old need a new high-end bike for? You can't ride it any harder, and it will likely outlast your riding days.

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Old 07-13-22, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by zacster View Post
. I was tempted to get something newer myself but my wife talked me out of it, saying I'd never get the payback because of my age. What does a 67 year old need a new high-end bike for? You can't ride it any harder, and it will likely outlast your riding days.
I cannot understand this whatsoever. If you want something, buy it. Does it matter whether you can ride it at all? Are you trying to predict when you're going to die and not buy anything that you can't wear out?
My 80 year old neighbor is going to buy a new car as soon as he can find the one he wants. He has 2 other cars and probably can't wear them out, yet he wants a new one. He worked hard for his money and should use it however he wants.
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Old 07-13-22, 03:32 PM
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They didn't lose anything. They don't have a small in stock and can't get one.
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Old 07-14-22, 12:34 PM
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Tell them your legs were amputated, and your new prosthetics are shorter.
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Old 07-14-22, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
Yes, but it's not as bad as when they pull the rug over your eyes.
My favorite garbled version, from a Pogo comic strip published at least 50 years ago:

"You can't pull my wool over the ice!"
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Old 07-17-22, 10:46 PM
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I'm upgrading because I feel like upgrading. Do any of us have to rationalize buying a new bike?
Only to our wife's.
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Old 07-18-22, 09:38 AM
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70 years old. I'm riding a carbon fiber, Ultegra 11 spd Di2 bike with carbon wheels and rim brakes. Thought it was about time to upgrade to something more current. I found a carbon fiber bike with the new 105 Di2 groupset on a direct to consumer site. I studied the geometry charts and, based on numbers recommended by my pro fitting, decided that the Small frame size was closest to ideal.
On the website, you have to fill in all your measurements so "they" can decide what size you need. Okay, I have all those printed out from my fitting as well. Then I entered "SMALL" in the frame size and completed my purchase.
I got a phone call the next day. "Hello, this is XYZ Bicycles confirming your order. You ordered this model with the 105 Di2 and a Medium frame."
"Uh, no, I want a small frame size."
"Well, according to our fit expert, you need a medium."
"I've looked over the charts. I have long legs but a short torso. A small fits me better."
"Hold on, let me transfer you." - "Hi, Paul. According to your size, you need a medium frame."
"I've had a pro fitting. The small frame size is pretty close to ideal for me."
And then the 20 something sounding fit expert said it. "Well, we've been doing this a long time. We're experts, and I'm telling you, you need a medium."
I cancelled the order.
Cancelling the order was the proper thing to do. I despise a know it all salesman that thinks he know better than you.
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Old 07-18-22, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bald Paul View Post
This is the issue with the "formulas" for determining frame sizes. I've plugged in my measurements on several sites, and have been recommended anywhere from a 52cm to 56cm framesize, which translates from small to almost large. That's why I had my fitting and got my numbers, and study the geometry charts.
Oh well. I'm looking at a Ribble now, but have to figure in the shipping and import duties.
Why didn't you just fudge your numbers so that their formula spit out the frame size you really wanted?
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Old 07-19-22, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by SurferRosa View Post
Tell them your legs were amputated, and your new prosthetics are shorter.
There is a drag bike racer who is a double amputee and I heard he has different length prosthetics he switches out. I don't know if it helps him on the bike or if he does it to mess with people.
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Old 07-23-22, 11:49 AM
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I managed to locate a shop about 45 minutes away that had the correct size Scott Addict 10 in stock. Went to the shop, gave it a test ride, and was then very pleasantly surprised to find out the bike was 15% off today!
Yes, it's home now! :-)
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Old 07-23-22, 08:07 PM
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I managed to locate a shop about 45 minutes away that had the correct size Scott Addict 10 in stock. Went to the shop, gave it a test ride, and was then very pleasantly surprised to find out the bike was 15% off today!
Yes, it's home now! :-)
So, you gonna take a ride and give us a report? A picture would be nice.
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Old 07-24-22, 05:07 AM
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So, you gonna take a ride and give us a report? A picture would be nice.
Hope to be going out this morning, before it gets to the point of melting in this heat. Then I'll know if I have to swap my old saddle over or make any minor adjustments. I'm planning on getting the bike adjusted at the shop that did my fitting. They have all my body dimensions, saddle height and fore/aft position, stem, etc in their computer, and they can use lasers to set up the new bike. Very high tech.
I'll try to remember to get a pic - I admit I'm terrible about that.
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Old 07-24-22, 09:01 AM
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Ride went well. With 32C tires (vs my other bike with 25's) the ride was very comfortable. It took a bit to get accustomed to the SRAM shifter operation, but eventually I got to the point where I didn't have to think about it. And oh, that low gear! I really doubt I'll be using it much, but when needed, it's nice to know it's there!
This was also the first time using Cat-Ears on my helmet straps. Finally, I was able to hear my riding partner talking! Usually the wind noise (combined with my bad hearing) made that impossible.

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Old 07-24-22, 12:25 PM
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Great looking bike!
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Old 07-24-22, 01:58 PM
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Sweet ride, I really like my Addict.
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Old 07-25-22, 08:17 AM
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That frame looks a little small for you. Maybe you should have gotten a medium?
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Originally Posted by GeezyRider View Post
That frame looks a little small for you. Maybe you should have gotten a medium?
Yeah, I was going to send the pic to the "other" seller, and thank them for not selling me what I wanted, as this was on sale!
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Old 08-24-22, 11:33 PM
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Do the larger tires feel like they spin up as fast as 25s
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Old 08-26-22, 01:45 PM
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Do the larger tires feel like they spin up as fast as 25s
Well, my other bike with the 25s also has carbon wheels, so yeah, they are much lighter and *probably* spin up faster. But if you look at my signature line, SORTIE stands for Slow, Old, Relaxed, Taking It Easy. (BTW, on the back of the bib shorts it says "I'll Get There Eventually")
My bicycle racing days ended a long, long time ago. I'm not so much concerned about how quickly I can accelerate now. The 32 tires give a noticeably more comfortable ride. A set of carbon disc brake wheels may be in the future, though.
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Old 08-26-22, 02:30 PM
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Back when I bought my Scott in 2006, I told the salesperson I wanted a triple, so it would need to be modified (it came in a compact double).

He spent the next half an hour trying to convince me I didn't need that.

"Listen. When YOU are my age and you are doing a double century where they send you up a 16% grade after 170 miles, you can tell me what I need and what I don't need. I want a triple."

He said ... no problem, all you need to do is replace the crank.

"Uh, no. I need a new left brifter, longer chain, different rear derailleur. Likely a different front derailleur too."

"No you don't."

"Yes I do."

"No, you don't"

We pulled the mechanic over and he agreed with the sales person(!). It wasn't until I had him look it up on Shimano's website that he relented and agreed I was right.

Needless to say, I bought the bike, but not there.

PS: Nice ride! That bike I ended up buying and riding for the next 14 years was a Scott CR1. Great bike.
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Old 08-26-22, 04:15 PM
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That bike I ended up buying and riding for the next 14 years was a Scott CR1. Great bike.
Yes, the Scott CR1 was a great endurance bike.

We did a lot of gearing mods of the CR1 for riders who wanted lower gears. The simplest and most popular was to replace the Ultegra 10-speed RD with an XT 9-speed RD (yes, they are compatible).

A 50-34 crankset with an 11-34 (or 11-36) cassette.
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