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Old 10-04-23, 07:13 AM
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phone holder or pocket?

I know there was a thread here that asked where you keep your phone while riding and it seems that most keep them in their jersey pocket, though not the middle one. Then there are those that use a bracket mounted on the handlebars. I've always kept mine in my pocket but have been seeing more and more ads for brackets and it made me pose a question. If I crash is the phone going to stay in the bracket on the bike or fly away from the bike? If it is in my pocket it is more likely to stay with me. More than likely after a crash I would need a phone so it is a concern. I am interested in some thoughts and incites on this.
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Wallet pack inside my middle jersey pocket - the wallet protects it from sweat. I don't us it while riding so I don't need quick access, but I can still hear it ring.
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It only makes sense to use a bar mount if you are using your phone as a head unit. Otherwise a pocket is safer.
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I figure that I can get separated from my bike in a crash of some sort. So I want my phone to go with me just in case I can't walk or crawl to where the bike is. I keep mine in a plastic zipper bag with my wallet in my center rear jersey pocket.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
I figure that I can get separated from my bike in a crash of some sort. So I want my phone to go with me just in case I can't walk or crawl to where the bike is. I keep mine in a plastic zipper bag with my wallet in my center rear jersey pocket.
My last BIG crash sent me over the handlebars and landing flat on my back. If my phone was in my jersey pocket it would have been destroyed (not to mention my ribs). I've always kept mine in my saddle bag. I really don't worry about missing calls or texts and my Garmin head unit will alert me and I can determine if it's necessary to pull over and answer it or not.
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Sometimes a pocket, most of the time in the bag on the rear rack.
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Originally Posted by TakingMyTime
My last BIG crash sent me over the handlebars and landing flat on my back. If my phone was in my jersey pocket it would have been destroyed (not to mention my ribs). I've always kept mine in my saddle bag. I really don't worry about missing calls or texts and my Garmin head unit will alert me and I can determine if it's necessary to pull over and answer it or not.
You can imagine that, but you don't know. And do you think every crash is going to have you landing on your back and particularly the small of your back with enough force to break your phone? Seems more likely your butt or shoulders will bear the brunt of that. So you seem to be posing a very slight risk and using that as justification to to simply disagree.

I've have had my phones screen get shattered while doing other activities and it was unreadable. However using the voice control, I was still able to make calls and contact those I needed. If I ever do land on my back in a bike crash then if the phone is damaged, I still imagine it will be usable.

I'm okay with you keeping your phone where you want. You don't have to justify it by trying to poke holes in my justification.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
You don't have to justify it by trying to poke holes in my justification.
You're reading way too much into my post.
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I usually keep mine in a running belt in warmer weather. In cold weather, I may switch to the front pocket of my windbreaker.

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Quad Lock stem mount. It would take a severe crash to munch my phone.
I use mine to Strava rides, leaving the screen on for entire rides. Makes it the best cyclecomputer ever.
I mounted a small auxiliary rechargeable battery to keep it fully charged, since the screen & GPS can quickly drain it.
Fairly easy to text my GF, if necessary. Or quickly tell texting friends I will respond later.
Never dislodged or damaged over fifty thousand miles, including some tipovers.
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If you crash often, then a handlebar mount could be a concern. Which begs the question, how often? If you don’t Quadlock would be my choice. Again, that’s if you use your phone for navigation, or with Varia or as a cycle computer. If not, a jersey pocket makes the most sense - where mine has lived for a couple of decades.
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Originally Posted by SW84
Sometimes a pocket, most of the time in the bag on the rear rack.
Flip phone in my pocket 90% of the time while riding, or instead carry smartphone in a bag on the rear rack inside a bubble wrap envelope for the 10% of time when I think I might want to use the additional non-voice or text phone features of a smartphone (such as camera or internet access) while riding or at a destination away from home.
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I use this phone mount in the link. It is made out of stretchy rubber that holds the phone on the stem.I have only had one wreck at about 14mph and the phone didn`t budge, it stayed right where I mounted it.Luckily nothing happened to my phone. I use Map My Ride so as I am riding, the map is lit up and every mile it hollers at me letting me know my speed, average speed and mile marker. Very handy and I don`t have to look down at it.I guess I would have to put my phone in a plastic bag or something if it rained.Also it is very easy to move from bike to bike.
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there was an article some time back, I don't remember where, about the dangers of putting minipumps in your jersey pocket- particularly the middle pocket. Somebody ended up with a severed spinal chord that way. But a phone seems like much less of a risk.
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Phone goes inside the phone case and then inside my pants pocket. My pants have zipped side pockets and that's where I keep my phone.
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I've crashed a few times. I've fallen over lots in the early days of learning clipless. I've gone over the handlebars learning to bunnyhop roots. I had a VW do a right hook from the left lane into me totaling my bike and shredding the left side of my jersey. I have always carried my phone in my jersey pocket. It has been just fine through it all. Also in all this time I have had a Garmin mounted either on the stem of on an out front mount and have never had one come off or break in a crash, and I crashed plenty while racing CX. Smaller phones are not much bigger than large Garmin. I think your phone is safe either way.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
I figure that I can get separated from my bike in a crash of some sort. So I want my phone to go with me just in case I can't walk or crawl to where the bike is. I keep mine in a plastic zipper bag with my wallet in my center rear jersey pocket.
who would you call first? a loved one or 911? was discussing this w/ my elderly Mom recently. for me if I was near my "end" it would be family just not sure which one. maybe whoever was more likely to pick up

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my phone is waterproof. I don't worry about the sweat.
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6
who would you call first? a loved one or 911? was discussing this w/ my elderly Mom recently. fir me if I was near my "end" it would be family just not sure which one. maybe whoever was more likely to pick up
Gosh, this too might be better for it's own thread!

It'd depend on the situation. If I could walk and was okay, I'd be calling or texting my wife to ignore the crash alert that hopefully she already got from Garmin and Specialized. If I was badly injured, definitely 911.

Though when I had my one and only bad crash that left me with a severe concussion, fractured skull and both eye orbits fractured as well as a dislocated thumb, I wasn't trying to call anyone. They claim that apparently, I was trying to get on my bike and ride home. Very glad they didn't let me.

I guess I'll have to have a talk with my wife and see if she disagrees. <grin>

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Originally Posted by Iride01
when I had my one and only bad crash that left me with a severe concussion, fractured skull and both eye orbits fractured as well as a dislocated thumb, I wasn't trying to call anyone. Apparently they claim I was trying to get on my bike and ride home.
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After never liking the feel or fear of having my phone/DL/CC/cash accidently coming out of my rear center jersey pocket, I switched to a stem bag that can hold spare lights, gels, phone, cash/cards and powdered drink mix without a hitch. Bonus is I can hear the phone. Added a second bag to hold a third bottle and snacks on longer rides.
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rumrunn6 Now you've made me think of something else to ponder and worry about. On that day I crashed, if no one had found me and intervened, my wife would have first called me before calling 911. If I was able to answer my phone then, I probably would have told her I was okay and would be home soon.

Which is basically what I told her when the people that called 911 first, then called her for me on my phone and let me talk to her. According to her, I told her I was fine and was only going with the ambulance because everyone else seemed concerned!

I definitely wasn't okay that day. But I thought I was.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
Gosh, this too might be better for it's own thread!

It'd depend on the situation. If I could walk and was okay, I'd be calling or texting my wife to ignore the crash alert that hopefully she already got from Garmin and Specialized. If I was badly injured, definitely 911.

Though when I had my one and only bad crash that left me with a severe concussion, fractured skull and both eye orbits fractured as well as a dislocated thumb, I wasn't trying to call anyone. They claim that apparently, I was trying to get on my bike and ride home. Very glad they didn't let me.

I guess I'll have to have a talk with my wife and see if she disagrees. <grin>
You can set up emergency contacts in the Garmin Connect app on your phone, and connect it via BT to your Garmin head unit. Just enable "Incident Detection" and when/if you crash, you'll hear a loud alarm sound from your phone (if you're conscious, of course.) If you're relatively okay, you can grab your phone and cancel the emergency call. Otherwise, it will dial your contact with a pre-selected message to let them know you're hurt.
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Originally Posted by rsbob
If you crash often, then a handlebar mount could be a concern. Which begs the question, how often? If you donít Quadlock would be my choice. Again, thatís if you use your phone for navigation, or with Varia or as a cycle computer. If not, a jersey pocket makes the most sense - where mine has lived for a couple of decades.
r.e. bold I have handlebar mount on all bikes and since 2020 ----

Endo over bars on Roubaix Expert off road and stayed on
Hit by Wild Hogs twice once on a path and once on the road and stayed on
Failure to unclip so went down and stayed on
Too slow in a turn on long wheelbase RANS Velocity Squared went down and stayed on
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Fell asleep on Day6 Semi Recumbent went off the road and onto a VERY PLUSH GRASS front yard and went down and stayed on
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Originally Posted by Bald Paul
You can set up emergency contacts in the Garmin Connect app on your phone, and connect it via BT to your Garmin head unit. Just enable "Incident Detection" and when/if you crash, you'll hear a loud alarm sound from your phone (if you're conscious, of course.) If you're relatively okay, you can grab your phone and cancel the emergency call. Otherwise, it will dial your contact with a pre-selected message to let them know you're hurt.
Yeah, I was still using my 9 or 10 year old Edge 500 then. So no crash detection. My wife always insisted I have location tracking when I ride in the sparsely traveled places, so we used location sharing via Google Maps back then. She actually had that wifely premonition that something had happened and had just check my location and saw my location wasn't changing. Just as she was about to push the button to call me, the people that found me called her using my phones emergency contacts and advised her what was going on.

I've since gotten a newer Edge 530 with incident detection and a Specialized Helmet with Angi. The Garmin gives false alerts sometimes. The Angi never has.

I don't feel it's necessary or imperative that someone have these things just to go on a ride. But since they've gotten so inexpensive compared to other things, why wouldn't one take advantage of them if the opportunity present itself? It's a free feature for Garmin some devices. And a small added cost to Specialized/SWorks helmets that include them. Neither requiring a subscription or other costs. Just a smart phone which most of us have already.
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