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noglider 03-10-26 10:31 AM

Yup, I might not be doing my steps this way forever. I told my doctor that I take them two at a time and that sometimes I get dizzy, almost fainting. He said I should stop doing it because he doesn't want me to faint and fall on the stairs. I think I'm careful enough because I don't faint during exercise, only after it. I know that one day, I won't have great balance so I'm doing what I can to preserve it. At this point, I can stand up with one leg on a wobbly ladder.

Iride01 03-10-26 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 23709578)
...I told my doctor that I take them two at a time and that sometimes I get dizzy, almost fainting...

That doctor is a heart doctor I hope. Syncope is the reason I was introduced to a heart doctor about a decade ago. Although all they've found out is my heart is in pretty good shape.

Pratt 03-10-26 05:42 PM

Worse, I drive down to the park and ride with my bike in the back of the truck to go for a ride.
In my defense, we live two miles up a 6% hill, with spots or 10%. It is a chore to go up after a ride.

noglider 03-11-26 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Iride01 (Post 23709721)
That doctor is a heart doctor I hope. Syncope is the reason I was introduced to a heart doctor about a decade ago. Although all they've found out is my heart is in pretty good shape.

I have a heart doctor and a nephrologist (kidney doctor), and it was the latter who told me to stop that. I see the heart doctor three times a year because he's very cautious. If I understand him right, my heart is in very good shape. I have a mitral valve prolapse, born with it. It's benign, but there is some danger with it, and it also means that my EKGs will always read abnormal even when things are fine. I get a lot of echo-cardiograms instead which are expensive. I'm getting another one next month. So far, so good, and all of my indicators are good.


Iride01 03-11-26 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 23710066)
I have a heart doctor and a nephrologist (kidney doctor), and it was the latter who told me to stop that. I see the heart doctor three times a year because he's very cautious. If I understand him right, my heart is in very good shape. I have a mitral valve prolapse, born with it. It's benign, but there is some danger with it, and it also means that my EKGs will always read abnormal even when things are fine. I get a lot of echo-cardiograms instead which are expensive. I'm getting another one next month. So far, so good, and all of my indicators are good.

I think you should rely on your heart doctor for advice about dizziness and fainting. Maybe your kidney doctor is correct. But their focus on exercise is more revolving only around kidney and renal issues Like many things a second opinion should be sought.

rsbob 03-11-26 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by Pratt (Post 23709819)
Worse, I drive down to the park and ride with my bike in the back of the truck to go for a ride.
In my defense, we live two miles up a 6% hill, with spots or 10%. It is a chore to go up after a ride.

Sounds like grounds for an e-bike.

noglider 03-12-26 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Iride01 (Post 23710099)
I think you should rely on your heart doctor for advice about dizziness and fainting. Maybe your kidney doctor is correct. But their focus on exercise is more revolving only around kidney and renal issues Like many things a second opinion should be sought.

Normally I would, but my cardiologist's style is a little hard to read. The nephrologist is unexpectedly holistic in his approaches, and he gives more useful advice than any of my many other doctors.

Iride01 03-12-26 12:32 PM

noglider

Holistic approaches have their benefits for proper application of them. Regardless of which doctor does or doesn't give holistic advice, your heart doctor is the one that needs to know that you get dizzy and feel faint when climbing stairs fast. And possibly a neurologist.

noglider 03-12-26 12:36 PM

I've seen a neurologist, too. No one knows why I faint or get dizzy. I've come to accept that, and I accept the fact that they can help me only so much.

Carbonfiberboy 03-13-26 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 23710755)
Normally I would, but my cardiologist's style is a little hard to read. The nephrologist is unexpectedly holistic in his approaches, and he gives more useful advice than any of my many other doctors.

The cardiologists I saw after passing out on my rollers a couple times (no fun at all), said naw, nothing wrong with you, you're not only fine, you're in superior shape for your age. Luckily the head cardiologist was an acquaintance of mine. After talking with him, he said "Show me something!" IOW, pass out while hooked up to a 12-lead. I got on the treadmill and just went at it until I almost passed out. Then they had their data and I got a pacemaker. I actually gave them a good scare. Your case could be different from mine, but the "show me" idea might still have an application.

The issue with cardiologists is that they mostly see geezers with obvious problems, not the same as athletes with not-so-obvious problems.

noglider 03-14-26 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy (Post 23711337)
The cardiologists I saw after passing out on my rollers a couple times (no fun at all), said naw, nothing wrong with you, you're not only fine, you're in superior shape for your age. Luckily the head cardiologist was an acquaintance of mine. After talking with him, he said "Show me something!" IOW, pass out while hooked up to a 12-lead. I got on the treadmill and just went at it until I almost passed out. Then they had their data and I got a pacemaker. I actually gave them a good scare. Your case could be different from mine, but the "show me" idea might still have an application.

The issue with cardiologists is that they mostly see geezers with obvious problems, not the same as athletes with not-so-obvious problems.

Thank you. That's what I want to do. I want to hold in squat for a minute or two and then stand up. I can bring about the dizziness that way. I don't know about all the sensors they use, but they should be able to hook me up while I do that. And yes, they're used to geezers with obvious problems.

Carbonfiberboy 03-14-26 08:19 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 23711761)
Thank you. That's what I want to do. I want to hold in squat for a minute or two and then stand up. I can bring about the dizziness that way. I don't know about all the sensors they use, but they should be able to hook me up while I do that. And yes, they're used to geezers with obvious problems.

That might be a cardio problem. Could also be something to do with the veins in your legs. Do you have a BP device? You can take your BP normally and then put the cuff on your ankle. There's supposed to be a certain ratio between those two BPs, look it up. More likely that particular thing is orthostatic hypotension which could have a cardio cause. Feel dizzy when you stand up? What it means and what to do about it | UCLA Health

rsbob 03-14-26 11:38 AM

About a month ago I started doing dead lifts and when the bar was fully raised I would become dizzy - not a great feeling. I powered on and today, for some reason that is no longer occurring. Maybe my body is training itself to anticipate the movement… I don’t know.

noglider 03-14-26 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy (Post 23711781)
That might be a cardio problem. Could also be something to do with the veins in your legs. Do you have a BP device? You can take your BP normally and then put the cuff on your ankle. There's supposed to be a certain ratio between those two BPs, look it up. More likely that particular thing is orthostatic hypotension which could have a cardio cause. Feel dizzy when you stand up? What it means and what to do about it | UCLA Health

I'll pursue this. Thank you again!

Hondo Gravel 03-15-26 11:48 PM

No such thing as elevators in Hondo, Texas unless it is grain lol. When my room in a San Antonio downtown hotel right across from a concert venue and I’m on the 22nd floor then no. A few floors yes taking the stairs then yes.

MikeMunson 03-16-26 07:55 AM

Aside from my mtb trips, where I stay in hotels on the 1st or 2nd floor (and ride the elevator with my bike), the only other times I can think that I have an elevator vs stair choice in the last few years has been at my cardiologist's office, lol. So, yeah, I take the stairs.

fat biker 03-30-26 07:56 PM

I use the stairs when practical. Stairs are part of my fitness program.

1971, mom was in the hospital for about a month with spine surgery.
In exchange for the use of her car, I was her daily fresh laundry service provider.
One afternoon, delivery complete, she was on the third or fourth floor, I take the elevator
Miserable thing left me stuck for 20 minutes. 20 minutes of my life I will never get back.

I notice now, many hospitals access control the stairwell so it is unavailable. Why? Seurity? Safelty?

HeyItsSara 04-07-26 10:51 AM

In commercial buildings, safety in the stair well is a real issue.

bikemig 04-07-26 03:03 PM

My office is on the first floor. I live near a park that I walk in almost every day and it has steps and the path has climbs as well. The climbs are not serious (I live in central IA) but they are non-stop and they are a great work out. When I'm motivated I run up the all the climbs and the steps.

rsbob 04-07-26 10:51 PM


Originally Posted by HeyItsSara (Post 23724086)
In commercial buildings, safety in the stair well is a real issue.

You don’t post your city/town but it doesn’t sound like a great place if you are scared inside a building. Public Parking garages can be sketchy though and are stairs not recommended

freeranger 04-17-26 06:12 AM

Yes, still using stairs (not in sketchy parking garages or similar). Our home is 2 story, and seems I'm always up and down those stairs, so there's that. I saw a piece about these lately, is everything going electric?! Nike Unveils Project Amplify, the World’s First Powered Footwear System for Running and Walking — NIKE, Inc.

tentoes 04-27-26 01:29 AM

If it's less than 5 floors, I'll take the stairs. It's easy exercise.


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