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So, listen, many of you come from the land of litigation

Old 06-01-07, 12:53 PM
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So, listen, many of you come from the land of litigation

I mentioned in a previous thread that I'm in love with a delightful steel and carbon road bike. I asked you to tell me that it was all futile, and I'd do better getting fit on my present ole reliable.

Oh no, you all went for the vicarious purchase. "Go ahead, you're only ancient once.." and so forth.

I asked the Tandems forum about a new tandem. Guess what ..." Go for it"

So - are you all ready to be cited for false incitement when I'm still slug slow?

I just want to know where I stand
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Old 06-01-07, 12:54 PM
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Advil. Carters Pills. Celexa.

Take them.

You'll feel better in the morning.
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Old 06-01-07, 01:01 PM
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Go for it.
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Old 06-01-07, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by The Weak Link
Advil. Carters Pills. Celexa.

Take them.

You'll feel better in the morning.
So it's all chemical, eh?

You cyclists
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I don't recall any advice being given.
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Old 06-01-07, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HopedaleHills
I don't recall any advice being given.
You're right. It's all in me 'ed!
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Old 06-01-07, 01:15 PM
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I say, stick with what works. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
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Old 06-01-07, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Digital Gee
I say, stick with what works. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
And this coming from the thread's prime advocate of 'new bikes change your life!' You're having a laugh

I'd buy a fraction of your enjoyment of new kit at twice the price, Mr. DG !
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Originally Posted by wobblyoldgeezer
I mentioned in a previous thread that I'm in love with a delightful steel and carbon road bike. I asked you to tell me that it was all futile, and I'd do better getting fit on my present ole reliable.I just want to know where I stand
Don't blame me. I warned you of the dangers of a bicycle scorned.

And darn it, my old 10 speed picked up on the vibes and persuaded me to get the rear wheel repaired and the brooks saddle slapped on. And it's back on the road. Like the Red Shoes, my feet seem to go faster when in the toe clips. I'm doomed and it's all your fault.
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Old 06-01-07, 01:40 PM
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You may be asking the wrong questions. Have you analyzed your goals?

My goal is only indirectly connected with maximizing my speed. My goal is to maximize my fun.
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Old 06-01-07, 01:56 PM
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Ride the steel and carbon. If it feels like your own personal roller coaster (in a good way), go for it! Or, get the trusty old steed fit, ride it for a few months, and chances are it will act as a "gateway drug" to the steel and carbon--so I say, do both and save yourself some time. I still like riding my steel bike even though it's not quite the rush that my aluminum bike is. Who wants the same flavor of ice cream every day anyway?
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Old 06-01-07, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wobblyoldgeezer
And this coming from the thread's prime advocate of 'new bikes change your life!' You're having a laugh

I'd buy a fraction of your enjoyment of new kit at twice the price, Mr. DG !
Just trying to avoid a little litigation!
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Originally Posted by Digital Gee
Just trying to avoid a little litigation!
One of my hemorrhoids was litigated about two weeks ago.
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Old 06-01-07, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by wobblyoldgeezer
I mentioned in a previous thread that I'm in love with a delightful steel and carbon road bike. I asked you to tell me that it was all futile, and I'd do better getting fit on my present ole reliable.
- stop right there.... hold your horses...

- IMHO, stay with single frame composition material... IOW, CF monocoque, Ti, AL, or steel...

- but if you insist, ask for a technical explanation of material bonding...

(i also realize that most roadies ride CF forks and dropouts w/steel or AL lugs using lawyer lips)
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Old 06-01-07, 03:11 PM
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You have to analyse the situation, taking into consideration

finance-
necessity-
wants-
The N+1 rule.

Can you afford it- well that doesn't matter as if the 3rd comes into play- it will outweigh the cost

Do you need a new bike- that is a stupid reason as unless your current bike is less than 6 months old OR is not such a nice colour- then you need the new Shiny one

Wanting a new bike is already covered and if you do not want a new bike- then you are not normsal.

The N+1 rule is the overriding reason as you can never have enough bikes.

As to making the hills seem shorter- or less of a slope or even making you think that you can climb them- That is down to more than the bike. The adrenalyn factor comes in- but if the NEW bike doesn't sail up those hills- then it is probably down to a bit of sorting and getting the correct fit so do not blame the bike.

So remember- when that shiny new bike does not do all you want it to do, all it will take is a bit of sorting- Might be a simple thing like a new set of wheels at $800 a pair- or a new saddle that in no way resembles or has the weight of a Brooks- but it might take a couple or 6 till the correct saddle is found. Or it may simply be that you ad the bike have to become one so plenty of trips out on long rides will show you how much the New bike has ruined your relationship with your drinking partners and the wife.
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DO NOT BUY A NEW BIKE!!! But if you must, you have my permission to send it to me for that nasty, early break in period. I'll return it after 2000 miles or six months whichever comes later.
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Old 06-02-07, 02:11 AM
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Well, I think that clear everything up nicely. Thanks, all, for your consistent and concise advice
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By all means buy the steel and carbon road bike, I bought one last fall and love it. I didn't need it, had never spent that much on a bike, but I don't regret it.
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You can never have too many bikes in the garage.
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And so - for those who have been kind enough to have offered a view (for which many thanks, this is a great forum)

Santana Visa tandem now re-equipped with a great new wheelset, is going to a friend of mine here, and I'm going to be tandem coach to him and his wife on a "no happy, no obligation" deal

I've an order for a new Trek T 2000 conditional on the above

I'm going on a trip to Northern Europe this summer on my steel Specialised Sirrus

I'll have a new Rocky Mountain Solo 50 ST on my return

Thanks, y'all
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Originally Posted by TrackGuy
You can never have too many bikes in the garage.
Or in the living room.
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Originally Posted by Jet Travis
Or in the living room.
Or the dining room AND the living room.
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Originally Posted by The Weak Link
Advil. Carters Pills. Celexa.

Take them.

You'll feel better in the morning.
C'mon now, there's already enough doping in cycling! You really are turning into a hardcore roadie, aren't ya!! (btw, there's a good deal on EPO at ________)
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We wouldn't be here if we weren't a bunch of co-dependent enablers. We will always tell you to buy to make you feel better. If you tried to sue us it would be laughed out of court.

Sorry! You are on your own in this.
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