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Old 04-08-08, 02:19 PM
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Worlds worst city for cycling

Has to be Venice. The main street is totally unsuitable.



The side streets aren't any better.



You can walk in Venice but those streets are narrow and crowded. This is the street in front of our hotel, and it gets narrower a little further along.



The "dry" streets have frequent bridges, and they are always stairs.



If you had a bike I guess you could walk it to the nearest Vaparetto stop, which is Venice's municipal transportation, and take it to the causeway to the mainland.



Venice is not wheelchair accessible and the only wheeled vehicles I saw were baby strollers. Even they are a handful on the crowded Vaparettos, narrow streets, and stairs. It is a wonderful and magical place, but no place for a cyclist.
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Old 04-08-08, 02:38 PM
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Where there's a will, there's a way:

You can go single, or you can go tandem


Or you can get the equivalent of a MTB:
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You've not heard of those bikes with big fat floating tires and a propellor type thing at the back that you move by turning the pedals?



Great pictures tho.
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Old 04-08-08, 02:54 PM
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OK, point made. Cycling may be possible but I stand by my allegation that it is a lousy place for cycling.
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OK, point made. Cycling may be possible but I stand by my allegation that it is a lousy place for cycling.
Great place for walking, though....especially if you are in search of the ultimate gelato.
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Old 04-08-08, 03:03 PM
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The roads in my town are lousy for boating. So is the local bike path.
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Old 04-08-08, 03:06 PM
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Nice photos and looks like you are having lovely weather.

Thank you for sharing.
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Actually.

If you had a bike, the thing to do would be to take the bus (ferry) to the Lido. You could do laps up and down the Lido, or keep taking buses (ferries) south until you reached Chioggia. In the vicinity of Chioggia is a paved off-road path that follows up the western side of the bay.

Rather nice, if unchallenging, riding.
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Old 04-08-08, 03:47 PM
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Ah yes Venice. Nice pic's.
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But it is absolutely beautiful. On my last trip one of the people with me took this photo. The high res version made a gorgeous 30" print hanging above his mantle:

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Old 04-08-08, 04:58 PM
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Biking may be difficult in Venice; but, its probably safer than Boston.
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Seems like I've read that Sao Paulo was just terrible for pedestrians, so assume it is bad for bikes as well.
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I can see where cycling would be a problem but it looks like a great place to visit. Nice photos.
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Detroit, including most of the 'burbs. Lousy roads, little or no allowance or consideration for bicyclists...and not nearly as pretty as Venice!

But hey, at least its mostly flat!

I went to Venice in my youth. An amazing place, but with the weak dollar and the general high cost of Europe I'm unlikely to return, alas.

However, there's always Venice, CA.
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Old 04-08-08, 05:36 PM
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Didn't Lance train for his final TDF win by cycling on the water in Venice?
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Old 04-08-08, 06:34 PM
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You should try Venice Beach.
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I hear Atlantis is worse.
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Originally Posted by cyclezealot View Post
Biking may be difficult in Venice; but, its probably safer than Boston.
Or Pittsburgh, PA: Drunk hit and killed a guy who was walking a bicycle Monday!
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Not only is cycling very difficult in Venice, it is also totally illegal, or at least we were told so (or read it in guidebooks?) during our stay in 2006. Did see one bike, but it was sitting in a yard and looked very old.
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Originally Posted by bcoppola View Post
Detroit, including most of the 'burbs. Lousy roads, little or no allowance or consideration for bicyclists...and not nearly as pretty as Venice!

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We're planning a trip this summer that includes Detroit and we've been told by everyone to load the bikes on the trailer and drive through the town. Looks like we'll heed these warnings.
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We're planning a trip this summer that includes Detroit and we've been told by everyone to load the bikes on the trailer and drive through the town. Looks like we'll heed these warnings.
Go to the Grand Rapids area instead. There is a bike path paralleling Lake Michigan. I think it runs from South Haven to Grand Haven. Awesome. Michigan has some great cycling locations. you just have to search
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Old 04-09-08, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cyclezealot View Post
Go to the Grand Rapids area instead. There is a bike path paralleling Lake Michigan. I think it runs from South Haven to Grand Haven. Awesome. Michigan has some great cycling locations. you just have to search
We're cycling around Lake Erie this summer.

I did some cycling last summer along Lake Michigan and it was beautiful.
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We're planning a trip this summer that includes Detroit and we've been told by everyone to load the bikes on the trailer and drive through the town. Looks like we'll heed these warnings.
That is your best bet. In Metro Detroit you have to watch out for the police who are not familar with the laws as well as the cars in which the drivers hate your guts and will try to run you off the road.
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Originally Posted by Ken Brown View Post
Has to be Venice. The main street is totally unsuitable.
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The real question, Ken, is--did you enjoy your trip. I hope that you are not writing Venice off because it's not good for cycling and there are a lot of people walking. There are many wonderful things about Venice if you accept it on its own terms.

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