Aside from obvious 'fat tire' bikes where the frame is so bulky, it's hard to notice the battery and motor (as a guy passes by followed by his 30 lb girlfriend whose legs are barely moving) there's said to be a growing category of "stealth" e-bikes specifically designed to look exactly like standard, thin-tire road or city bikes by hiding the motor in the wheel hub and the battery inside a slim frame tube. Read an article talking about how they look for that every year at the TdF but no cheater found so far...

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As a planet we need to get off the auto addiction-affliction.

AI agrees with you which mystifies me since as far as I know, It isn't taxes on bicycles that pay to build and maintain the roads we ride on...

I couldn't find the context for this comment even though I've read the thread. If you're implying that gas taxes, fines, registration fees, etc pay for roads, no, roads are built and maintained with money from general taxes, i.e. governments funded by all tax sources, including income tax. Non-drivers pay for roads as well, and roads are not self-sustaining. I apologize if I infer from you something that you did not intend to say.

I started reading the book Outlive by Peter Attia. I haven't finished it yet, but I like the premise. By aiming to live as long as possible, you incidentally live as healthily as possible thereby shortening the years when you are alive but in bad health. I recommend it. And I think this book may have been the start of the spreading interest in healthspan. I bought the hard copy for my spouse, and I was listening to the audiobook. Thanks for bringing it up because I forgot to finish it.

No apology necessary and other states probably aren't like my experience in California. There's even a 13% sales tax on Diesel fuel in addition to all the other vehicle taxes and fees but in California as well many neighborhoods pay for the construction and maintenance of the streets in their neighborhoods...

According to a quick search, that seems to be true of many neighborhoods (especially those with HOA's and gated communities) throughout the country, not just California.

In Washington State, gas taxes contribute to funding for roads, 55.4 cents per gallon. It's in the State constitution. Which is becoming a problem as fuel efficiency increases and more and more electric vehicles are on the roads. The theory is that eventually it will be replace by a Road Usage Charge (RUC).

Boomers realize things have changed. We grew up riding the roads on bicycles. Probably stuck with our preconceptions as to safety and normalcy of that practice long after that was not something to be taken for granted. Some of us, doubtless not all, are able to carve out a place where things are not that different from what we felt comfortable with growing up but... I no longer know whether to feel lucky or just appreciative of things that many younger folk have no idea about what's been lost...

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KC and the Sunshine band is far better than Led Zep...
Looks like you need to move the speaker stands...did you do the 'sub crawl'???
where are the cable lifter thingys to get better signal flow???
the angle of the 'acoustic tiles' are off by several degrees and the 'shades' are causing 'cross dispersion' resulting in muddy mids
sound reflections off the plants leaves are also contra indicated...
ugh...one shade is higher than the other just to show off the model vette...again sound reflections are not equal just to show off a model car...sit it on the speaker so it can move with the vibrations...much cooler lol.
one 'cable/wire' crosses itself resulting in signal confusion...such a big 'no no' in the audiophile world...
submitting this pic to 'av rant' for their perspective...lol...jk...schmaybe...

thanks for the pic, this was fun...

Ha! Don't forget, 'The Endless Summer' poster...

Pretty funny- ran this comment through A.I.- "Electric bikes have an even lower carbon footprint than conventional bikes because fewer calories are burned per kilometre, despite the emissions from battery manufacturing and electricity use.”

Generally, the answer was, 'yes,' as for example- "Essentially, if you are powering a commute with a steak-heavy diet, the e-bike is technically "greener" per mile than a standard bike."

Not sure how a chicken-heavy diet might change that equation but seems kind of silly unless riders who decide to substitute their wheels for e-bikes, get no exercise elsewhere that would make up the difference in effort.

It wasn't lost to the younger generation, only to the generations that experienced whatever you feel has been lost. Tis the way of life. I never thought, "I
feel like I lost out on all those things my parents did for fun, that are now no longer considered fun and hip".

True, true... don't live differently now than my folks did 'cept that the only thing that keeps me from riding the Bicentennial bike trail now as I did in the past (even though I have all the time in the world and could easily use a credit card from motel to motel instead of sleeping in a tent in a hiker/biker camp) is... I can't ride 50-70 miles/day for ~10 days straight and then hop in a car to drive home and get ready for work the next day.

Join the crowd.
Exceptionalism is only achieved with extreme sacrifice.

My Winter and early (wet&cloudy&coolish) Spring were full of malaise. Much more than usual. I worried about cycling - the few nice days I rode weren't inspiring.

But sunshine, warmer temperatures (first 70*) and looking at these nice bicycles (that have brought me joy in past) has kindled a revival - of sorts.

May the weather stay nice and my motivation high.
Yeah - bicycles are a savior.

Saddle time!

:cheers:

I put it to A.I.- is it possible to cycle routinely with 76-year-old legs without taking Aleve?

The reply- Yes, it is entirely possible to cycle routinely at 76 without relying on Aleve (Naproxen), provided you transition from "riding through pain" to a strategy of mechanical adjustment and physical preparation. Cycling is one of the most recommended exercises for seniors because its low-impact nature naturally lubricates joints and can actually reduce the very arthritis pain that Aleve is typically used to mask.

We'll see... will definitely try laying back a bit in trying to increase overall mph as an alternative...

April 24 will be a year since my CABG. It's been difficult to come back from that, starting at zero really except tougher at 80. But this week I've restarted the computer training program I've been using since Windows 3.0. It's a hard taskmaster. It'll slowly ramp up toward a completion date in late August when we'll start our annual 10-day backpack. I'm 3 days into it, whoop-de-do . . .Today it's a 45' Z3 walk, tomorrow's an hour of Z2 on the bike, that's kinda what the first week is like.

Later: Average HR was Z2, max was the top of Z3 (short hill). No way, even at max walking speed, could I hold Z3 on the flat. Legs and abs got a good workout.