Good info - thanks.

You've got a few years on me, but I've dealt with knee pain for years, having a very repetitive-strain injury type job. Ramping up cycling miles has helped in the past year and the knees are pretty stable now, but I'll sock away the MSM rec for future reference.

I take flax oil supplements now for general joint pain, btw, based on another rec. Who knows if it works...I'll probably stop taking them when the bottle runs out just to see if there's any difference.

I've had arthritis of both knees for the last 5 years. I've been on MSM, G&C, and Celebrex. Recently it's been getting worse. I checked out something called ArthX and found relief quickly. I got it at Super Supplements and, so far, have been very happy with it.

Elbows and wrists are my problem joints. Tried the Costco Glucosamine-Chondroitin-MSM with minimal effect. Tried Hammer Tissue Rejuvenator, which is those 3 plus some other stuff and noticed a major difference within a couple of days. YMMV.

>>Tried Hammer Tissue Rejuvenator, which is those 3 plus some other stuff <<

Can you tell us what the 'other stuff' is off the label? I get the feeling many of the pricier commercial concoctions (like the stuff I'm taking) have some of the same ingredients...

You can look it up on there web site. I did and I don't know what half the stuff is. I'm having very good luck with the Osteo Bi Flex, so I don't think I'll change.

Well, since it's you asking...

Tissue Rejuvenator
Supplement Facts
Serving Size 4 Capsules
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value *
Glucosamine Sulfate 500mg †
Chondroitin Sulfate 500mg †
MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane) 500mg †
Enzyme Blend (peptidase and bromelain, papain, protease, amylase, lipase, cellulase, and phytase) 400mg †
Boswellia Serrata 400mg †
Devils Claw 200mg †
Yucca Root 100mg †
Turmeric (Curcuma longa) Root Extract 100mg †
Quercetin (Saphora Japonica Source) 20mg †
Undenatured Type II Collagen** 5mg †
* The Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calorie needs.
† Daily Value not established.
**UC-II brand undenatured type II collagen (U.S. Patents 5,645.851, 5,637,321, 5,529,786, and 5,750,144). UC-II™ is a trademark of InterHealth N.I.
Other Ingredients: Stabilized Rice Bran, Vegetable Capsules (pullulan and water)

Glad you mentioned this BB...G/C works well on 50+ critters too. I may have to check the vet section at the local Farm Supply store the next time I'm there...G/C has increased in price by 20% since I started taking it.

The two brand name formulas I purchased are Flex-a-min and Osteo Bi-Flex, they both have:

Glucosamine/Chondroitin
MSM
Bosweilla Serratta Root
Hyaluronic Acid

I'm telling you guys my right knee went from feeling like it need a replacement to feeling normal within 5-7 days of starting on this formula, and I was on pretty big doses of Glucosamine/Chondroitin up until that point. And my knee has remained fine, despite pretty high miles (200-250/week) and hammering since then over the past month. I hope it continues.

If you look around, you can find "Vegetarian Glucosamine" No shellfish involved. Have to check out the MSM...

That's terrific but has it done anything to correct those hideous cable routing issues?

Apple cider vinegar contains sulfur, like MSM.

Patencad are you not the clown who poophas rest days, suprise ,suprise you have worn your knees out. Read Dr. John E. Sarnos book it could be all in your head, you seem really obessive, a perfect canidate.

Well, at least the resurrected thread was not 5 years old as some are:


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I also use glucosamine with MSM, plus I take extra MSM. My surgeom recommends both! I'm going in tomorrow for some knee repair so have been off all ths supliments for a week. Both knees are a little creaky now!

I was thinking about apple cider vinegar in a bit different context today. Funny it should pop up in a cycling forum.

Here in Kentucky ACV has achieved mythical qualities and is touted as a cure of everything from lumbago to colitis.

Maybe it is. Who knows.

The reason I was pondering it is that the insurance companies are refusing to pay for most any medication these days without putting one of my employees on hold for 90 minutes for pre-approval. It's killing us.

I'll just have to start recommending ACV to everybody for everything.

It'll save a ton of money for somebody.

Sorry to hear about the knee, oh the joys of living an athletic life. My surgeries nearly parallel yours, CRAP!

I use an AMWAY product called Joint Health Twist Tubes. (Don't get carried away on the word joint now) It helps the shoulders and knees. The hips are ceramic, so they always feel great.

If you get to Vegas we have a twice monthly golf group called the Gimpy Golfers. You must have had something replaced, transplanted, by passed or reattached to play. Bring your bike and clubs.

I finally found out a month ago that the knee pain I have been experiencing is from arthritis. It took a month to get through the prescreen from my primary care physician (a waste of time but required by insurance company) and through the initial meet and greet with the specialist, the MRI and the conclusion (of MRI) meeting with suggested form of treatment also by the specialist. Since then I've been waiting a month to have the insurance company tell me what they think I should do for treatment. The specialist poo-pooed cortisone shots in favor of something called euflexia, the insurance company wants to see if the cortisone shots will work first before springing for the euflexia. So I'm at the two month point in this and I am starting cortisone shots today. My hope is to have some sort of progress by the end of spring. Ah the joys of corporate-healthcare.

Have you tried apple cider vinegar?

No, in fact until today when I read this thread; I had never heard of apple cider vinegar nor its healing properties.

Started SAMe, which claims to help with joints. I like it.

It works for Bailey, not kidding!